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NYPD Officer Patrick Pogan's sworn complaint against Critical Mass bicyclist Christopher Long
Smoking Gun ^ | 7/29/08

Posted on 07/30/2008 10:57:36 AM PDT by LibWhacker




TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: anarchists; critical; criticalmass; donutwatch; goodcop; long; mass; pogan
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To: kenth

But the officer himself says in his complaint that a command was given. Do you automatically think all cops are liars? I mean, c’mon, the kid’s 22 years old. Probably highly idealistic as well. He was just doing his job.


41 posted on 07/30/2008 11:51:06 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: RC2

i assure you 100% that did not happen. my above post has my opinion of the situation.


42 posted on 07/30/2008 11:51:48 AM PDT by thefactor (contributing nothing of value to threads since 2001...)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

No? You can see behind the camera? WoW!


43 posted on 07/30/2008 11:52:03 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW ("Make yourself sheep, and the wolves will eat you" Benjamin Franklin)
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To: weegee

The criminal with the badge is charged with FIRST OBEYING THE LAW and then enforcing the law.

The citizen on the bike was one of many riding and I did not see other being knocked off their bike and being taken into custody. It is also not legal to selectively enforce the law.


44 posted on 07/30/2008 11:52:12 AM PDT by JLS
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To: thefactor

So a cyclist riding on the wrong side of the road is the equivalent of a madman shooting innocent children in a school? I guess that we should all be glad that you aren’t a cop, or scared for our lives if you are.


45 posted on 07/30/2008 11:52:25 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: American_Centurion

Okay, but remember, only Pogan had a view of Long’s face and was in the best position to judge his intentions.


46 posted on 07/30/2008 11:53:50 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: RC2

His sworn statement makes no mention of that. Don’t you think it would?

Yeah. It would.


47 posted on 07/30/2008 11:55:13 AM PDT by American_Centurion (No, I don't trust the government to automatically do the right thing.)
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To: LibWhacker

I’ve seen a NYPD scooter cop ram a Critical Masshole of his bike a few years ago. I guess it’s a mob mentality that keeps the Masshole from obeying the officer’s commands.

Once force was used to stop that cyclist, a female Masshole whined, “Why are you doing this to us!?!” The way she said it was as if she really couldn’t put together the massive gridlock they were creating plus ignoring a police officer’s command with the officer’s actions.


48 posted on 07/30/2008 11:55:55 AM PDT by OA5599
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To: LibWhacker

If the video contains all contact and communication between the cop and the cyclist, then the cop is a thug and a liar.

However, after seeing articles on this event yesterday, I started doing some research on Critical Mass, and learned a few things. There is no organization, there is no set route, and they can occasionally do what they call a Cyclone in order for the slower cyclists to catch up to the group.

The cop and the cyclist could easily have encountered each other, where that lawful order was issued, minutes or hours prior to the video being shot, if the cyclist was on a second (or more) trip around the block.


49 posted on 07/30/2008 11:58:26 AM PDT by Monitor ("...I love my country more than I hate John McCain..." - Kim du Toit)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
ok, what part of "a stretch of an analogy" didn't you get?

my point was that a verbal command is not necessary in many instances. especially if by the time you yell "stop" the biker is 5 feet past you.

and by me saying that i have worked these demonstrations before, i thought it would be self-evident that i am an NYPD cop. but i guess you only read a very small amount of my post, were outraged, and responded accordingly. good work.

and please do not say that i am defending this cop. i have done no such thing.

50 posted on 07/30/2008 11:59:23 AM PDT by thefactor (contributing nothing of value to threads since 2001...)
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To: LibWhacker

LOL, nice loaded question. You should apply to the NY Times. For your answer, I think this particular cop is a liar, especially in light of the video at hand. Besides saying that he gave a command, he also says that the bicyclist ran into him. If he lied about one part of his statement, then I view his entire statement as suspect.


51 posted on 07/30/2008 12:00:36 PM PDT by kenth (Just think, .000001783% of the population is screwing it all up for the rest of us.)
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To: Monitor

Good point, thank you!


52 posted on 07/30/2008 12:00:48 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: JLS

Thanks for coming down on the side of Critical Mass. You going to the frontlines of Recreate 68 too?


53 posted on 07/30/2008 12:04:55 PM PDT by weegee (Hi there.)
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To: LibWhacker

Stupid and corrupt cop clearly lied on a sworn affidavit.
He let three charges be filed based on his lies.

I hope he does prison time in a pound-me-in-the-ass facility.


54 posted on 07/30/2008 12:05:25 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Blood of Tyrants

They pick one car out of many and they DO give chase if that one who was selected does not stop when the red lights go on.


55 posted on 07/30/2008 12:05:40 PM PDT by weegee (Hi there.)
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To: American_Centurion
...what u say happened didn’t happen.

First you say that, then you say it happened 0.162 seconds before Pogan hit him. I'm confused.

56 posted on 07/30/2008 12:06:30 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: weegee

Pretty easy to side with CriticalMass (or any other group) when the actions of a thug cop are clearly caught on camera.


57 posted on 07/30/2008 12:07:04 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: OA5599

IMO, there ught to be a law. Bicyclists should not be allowed to ride in packs of more than twenty in metropolitan city streets, and should be allowed in the right lane only.

Hey, Bloomberg: why don’t you crack down on these asshole bikers the way you did on the smokers?


58 posted on 07/30/2008 12:11:09 PM PDT by Palladin (Glenn Beck on Obama: "Who the hell does he think he is?")
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To: LibWhacker

The officer looked to me to be in the wrong. It looked to me like the officer deliberately hit the bike rider.


59 posted on 07/30/2008 12:12:17 PM PDT by GloriaJane (http://www.download.com/gloriajane)
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To: Palladin

That should read:

“There ought to be a law.”


60 posted on 07/30/2008 12:12:51 PM PDT by Palladin (Glenn Beck on Obama: "Who the hell does he think he is?")
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