Texas ordered to improve bilingual education

Austin American Statesman ^ | 7.26.2008 | Jeff Carlton

[wolfcreek]

TEA has until the end of January to change program for secondary schools.

[wolfcreek]

Here we go. Another step towards a NAU.

Now the Feds are forcing border states to COMPLY.

[wolfcreek]

Ping!

[BigCinBigD]

El Mopo,Caprendy.Mowo El yardo and I wanto El frys grandy with thato.

[Waco]

No way Jose

[The_Victor]

"The clear failure of secondary LEP students unquestionably demonstrates that, despite its efforts, TEA has not met its obligation to remedy the language deficiencies of Texas students," Justice wrote. "After a quarter century of sputtering implementation, defendants have failed to achieve results that demonstrate they are overcoming language barriers for secondary LEP students. Failed implementation cannot prolong the existence of a failed program in perpetuity."

The state should come back with a "drop everything and learn English" approach. Not that the judge would accept it....

[Vaduz]

bilingual education= ban it english speak it.

[McLynnan]

Our language is English, our schools teach in English. There are already many programs that teach English. The basic problem is cultural laziness. If they can’t deal with our language they can go back and try the Mexican education system. Texans are tired of accommodating this sort of thing.

[DogBarkTree]

If I had a kid in the Texas school system I would only let him have a choice of taking Russian, Chinese, or any other language but Spanish classes. Effem!

[basil]

Even if there was a "learn English" approach, the families of these kids would not follow through in the home. Unless somehow it can be proven to these folks that speaking English is best in their self-interest, it will always be this way.

Why should they learn? Everything around here is printed in both languages, and everywhere I go, I hear Spanish being spoken. What's their incentive to learn English, as long as they are coddled by folks like this judge?

[Iron Munro]

In Europe they have various terms for their royalty:
Your Highness, Your Majesty, King, Queen, Duke, Duchess, Prince, Princess, etc.

It can be very confusing.

Here, in America, we just call them Judge or Your Honor.

[TLI]

What? Did they figure out that here in Dallas they have several schools that are Spanish only and they are going to make them speak some English? Because there are many in the very neighborhood where I live that are 100% and buddy I mean 100% mexican anchor babies. I go through the school zones on my way home and with the windows down nary a single word of English is heard. The schools front and back areas are 100% mexicans.

NO whites.

NO blacks.

Mexican.

There are enough DISD guards and Dallas cops to make it look like a prison yard.

[Sherman Logan]

Except in Europe the royalty have no real power.

The judges in this country have absolute power. Their decrees cannot be contested.

The Romans had a title for a magistrate with this kind of power.

It was Dictator.

[Allegra]

It’s getting to be time to tell the Feds where they can stick it and offer suggestions as to what sort of lubrication they can use to accomplish this.

[McLynnan]

Agreed and this is a slippery slope. What is this Judge going to tell us when a group of Arabic speaking students demands bilingual education?

[brushcop]

Here in Central Texas, one of our little granddaughters (1st grade no less) was put in a class of NON-english speakers, known as Mexicans, probably fresh from Mexico.

Well, that didn't last long, her Mom immediately flamed the administration and got her transferred to an English speaking class, she has since changed schools, thank God.

We went to some of her special days and it was little Mexico. One teacher presented class awards in Spanish. She was told by several parents after the awards presentation that here we speak English during all official functions. Her English was horrible.

This is the kind of crap we're up against. Fight it FReepers. My daughter-in-law did and won. Fight it!

[CodeToad]

OK, teach Turkish and English. There, problem solved. Why cater to hispanics at the expense of the Turks?

[ken21]

is there any better proof that liberal-socialist judges want to

change

america?

after decades of “successful” bi-lingual in lOOOs annnnhaylayyys,

40-60% of the kids in los angeles county skools drop out.

a new slave culture on the democrat plantation.

[devane617]

I love our America with all my heart, and my home, Texas, just as much. It is like watching a family member die of cancer...

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

When I went to school in Carlsbad,NM (1960-1962) there were Spanish speaking kids who could NOT pass a Spanish language course.

[McLynnan]

Glad it worked out for your family. My observation is that public education is only working in affluent districts. The children in inner city and lower income areas are at the mercy of our Hispanic population’s refusal to assimilate in any way.

[Ben Ficklin]

Judge Justice was the judge that handed down the decision that required Texas(and the nation) to provide an education to the illegals. But it didn't stop there.

When the judges declared Prop 187 in CA to be unconstitutional, Justice's Texas decision was used as the authority.

Judge Justice was also the judge who made the original decision on prison rights.

[devane617]

Here in north Texas, in a very upscale community, it is finally getting more notice than ever. I believe the Arlington ISD director was just dismissed/resigned because of financial reasons, but had stated he intended to bring bilingual education to Arlington against the wishes of many very upset parents. He is now gone. The sad reality is that we can’t stem this invasion for long. I am now actively looking for a place to move. I can’t bare the thought of leaving Texas, but it may come to that...Any suggestions?

[RU88]

Bilingual education is nothing more than a train wreck. Multiculturalism only expands the idea of a “greater mexico.” It's happening right before our very eyes as we speak and no politician of any consequence has the nads to do anything about it.

[Geezerette]

Arizona has been fighting this issue since the 1990's. There have been several stays and then the issue comes up again. I really don't know what the status is now. For a while, the State of AZ was supposedly "fined" several thousand dollars a day until they "complied". AZ didn't and fought it ... again ... and I think the "fine" was lifted.

Several days of the "fine" had piled up, but i think the few conservatives we have left here circumvented it.

g in az

[YouGoTexasGirl]

I totally agree with you!

We have produced a huge group of victims who do not understand values, morals, ethics and economics. Also, way too many folks have ditched the ethics of paying for right labor versus cheap labor so they assist the illegals who do only cash transactions so all is off the books. They get cheap labor at the cost of all of us who don’t. The same ones wonder why their taxes are so high. We provide free healthcare (so why pay for it?), free schooling, free food. One Central Texas School’s sign said, “Free Lunch”—it’s not free, it’s TAXPAYER provided, but that would make them “feel” bad to eat it....right!!!

[devane617]

What you state...is why we MUST vote them out of office and start with a new batch that understands our America is at risk. It may already be too late, but it is worth a try.

[NTHockey]

Dear Federal Government,
Regarding the directives to improve bilingual education, shove it. You don’t tell us how to run our schools. If you want to cut off federal funds, that’s fine with us. We will no longer collect your taxes.

It would behoove you to read the Constitution of the United States; specifically, Article X of the Bill of Rights.

Signed,
Any Governor who had courage

[wolfcreek]

“Why should they learn?”

We were at HEB this morning and they were selling these appliances where the only English words on the box were *blender*, *toaster*, *mixer*. That's it. Everything else in Spanish.

[brushcop]

I'm not so sure there IS somewhere to move out of Texas. My friends in MI and the NW are talking about similar problems. Lack or refusal to assimilate is the norm in these situations. Unfortunately, we really haven't "solved" the problem in our case, just shift around a bit (our daughter-in-law), it's everywhere and the arrogance of school districts is something to experience.

The phenomena of surrender going on in our society when there is really no need to is disheartening, can't understand it. No fighting spirit, no dig in and push back, just appeasement and surrender such as happening within the GOP. We'll get just what we deserve by continuing with this mindset. Nothing is "owed" us by just being here, we must push back and regain lost (or surrendered) territory.

[rottndog]

...Failed implementation cannot prolong the existence of a failed program in perpetuity."

Gee...under that logic, can we get rid of the government monopoly on public education?

[basil]

I used to love HEB stores—wouldn’t shop anywhere else. Now, all that Spanish language stuff is really turning me off. The same for Home Depot, and other businesses that work in a dual language. I know it’s a business decision for them-—but it’s so bad for the country to be divided by language.

[E. Cartman]

Here we go. Another step towards a NAU.

But, no one should forget which "conservative" President's brain-child this is. Whyever should I worry about Obama's one-world moments in Berlin when The GOP is largely pushing for the same?

[wolfcreek]

It's not that there are that many more Hispanic folks here than a few years back. It's more like there are many new ones from south of the border.

The local stores are going out of their way to make these newbies feel at home.

This further solidifies my feeling about the North American Union.

These corporation know it's coming. They are probably insistent on it happening.

[Amelia]

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[wolfcreek]

It's time to play, “link it to the CFR”

Sen. John McCain CFR member.

Sen. Obama’s wife Chicago CFR board member

George H. W. Bush CFR member

William J. Clinton CFR member

Council on Foreign Relations Advocates of open borders and a one world government

Must I go on?

[wildbill]

One of the biggest problems with bilingual education in Texas is that some the teachers are MONOLINGUAL.

But not monolingual as in English speaking, but monolingual as in Spanish speaking. A study found over 30% of the bilingual teachers in Houston (a bunch)were proficient only in Spanish.

[Polynikes]

“The sad reality is that we can’t stem this invasion for long. I am now actively looking for a place to move. I can’t bare the thought of leaving Texas, but it may come to that...Any suggestions?”

Come to Kallyfornia we need all the English speakers we can get. Just kidding. Try western Montana or Idaho. The climate is different but it is still U.S. territory. Be aware the property values are being moved up even in this economy by people doing just as you want to do.

http://www.missoula.com/news/welcome.php
http://www.missoulian.com/

[Ditter]

My daughter attended a Catholic all girls school in Houston for middle school. There were several foreign girls who joined her class speaking little or no English. By the end of the school year, after total immersion in English only classes they were fluent in English.That is the way to go.

[wolfcreek]

30% ??

Who's assimilating who?

[wolfcreek]

“That is the way to go.”

You’re right. And the Feds don’t need to be involved.

[McLynnan]

Truth be told I doubt most of the Hispanics I see in the HEB can read Spanish anyway. I don’t say that to be snarky, but illiteracy in any language is typical of a lot of our illegal population.

Where I live HEB and WalMart are our only choices. I find myself buying groceries at WalMart more and more. Here they don’t bend over backwards to coddle those who don’t speak English. I totally understand HEB is in business to show a profit but they are remarkably proactive about changing the primary language in Texas from English to Spanish.

[Altura Ct.]

Exactly! The government is not only being derelict in their Constitutional duties but also purposely bringing about anarchy. Just like what happened in SF and also PA the blood is on their hands.

[VOA]

Truth be told I doubt most of the Hispanics I see in the HEB can read
Spanish anyway. I don’t say that to be snarky...

I was sort of stunned when my brother told me of a discovery he
made a few years ago here in Mid-Missouri (Columbia).
He told me that some of the illegals working as aides at a local
nursing home were illiterate.
I said "Well, I'm not suprised if they can't read English".
He said "NO...I mean they can't even read Spanish!".

[BnBlFlag]

We should abolish it, not “improve” it.

[wolfcreek]

We need for you and your family to stay here in Texas and fight the good fight. Besides, this problem is nation wide and growing. You won't find any *sanctuaries* (LOL!) out there.

Don't move to California. My BIL lives 100 miles north of SF and his town is crawling with illegals.

[VOA]

Texas ordered to improve bilingual education

I don't know the current state of affairs, but maybe six or seven
years ago, California's voters passed a state initiative that mandated
pushing kids in public school to learn English and tried to kick
"bilingual education" to the side of the road.

A year later, reports were coming out of the public schools
(I remember one from Oceanside, CA) about how after a year of
this course, no matter the native tongue, virutally all kids were
doing English at a functional level.

I know the "bilingual educators" were fighting this tongs-and-hammer;
it creates a lot of jobs for teachers imported from outside the USA
(yep, they were importing folks to do the bilingual classes).

[AuntB]

“The basic problem is cultural laziness.”

Uh, oh.....some won’t like that observation. Interesting isn’t it, that 200 years ago, peasants coming to this country seemed to learn English just fine. In fact, at the beginning of the 1800’s the Cherokee learned English, developed their own written language and learned to read and write that as well as proper English....all in about 10 years time.

Latinos could do the same, if they wanted to, but they don’t have to, do they?

[wolfcreek]

It’s all about public aceptence of the invasion.

Once it’s drilled into the heads of parents and their children, the door is open wider.

[devane617]

We need to replace our elected reps with people that will fight this fight. Time to vote the current batch out. However, the Courts will need a purge also. I wonder each day — how long will it take for the average American to wake up and see what is happening? Will it be too late? I see the average Joe beginning to stir, but the longer it takes them to fully awake, may make this problem impossible to fix.

[brushcop]

No, I'm up on you there, it's one of those things that while we were (are) taking the CFR movement serious, so many are just accusing us of seeing too many black helicopters. I remember this issue in the 60s as I recall.

I also remember "Get US out of UN" signs in the South during that time, my Mom was part of that push--nothing seems to phase them though. Meanwhile, the sheeple seem just hunky-dory about the erosion of our freedoms.