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David Frum on Obama's Berlin Speech: Mixed metaphors and soggy logic
National Post ^ | 2008-07-25 | David Frum

Posted on 07/25/2008 2:46:59 PM PDT by Clive

An American presidential candidate travels to the very center of Europe and draws a huge cheering crowd. George W. Bush obviously could never do that. Nor could John McCain.

For the many Americans sick to death of eight years of confrontation and quarrelling with friends and allies, Barack Obama’s visit to Berlin presented an exciting and hopeful picture. This is how things should be!

It was a great moment — so long as you viewed it with the sound off.

But if you listened to the speech, you heard an ominous and disturbing statement, one that raises the same unsettling question Hillary Clinton raised: Is this man really capable of meeting the responsibilities of commander-in-chief?

Many commentators have observed that the speech was an unusually poorly written one, filled with weak language and mangled metaphors. Obama at one point announced: “This is the moment when we must defeat terror and dry up the well of extremism that supports it.” In my experience, when you try to use a well to support something, that thing tumbles 30 or 40 feet below ground and lands with a splash.

But it’s not just Obama’s language that is soggy. The Berlin speech revealed more starkly than ever the most dangerous weaknesses in Obama’s thinking about the world.

Here he is talking about the early days of the Cold War: “The Soviet shadow had swept across Eastern Europe ….” Here he is discussing current threats to security: “Poorly secured nuclear material in the former Soviet Union, or secrets from a scientist in Pakistan could help build a bomb that detonates in Paris.” Here is his summons to combat terrorism: “If we could create NATO to face down the Soviet Union, we can join in a new and global partnership to dismantle the networks that have struck in Madrid and Amman; in London and Bali; in Washington and New York.”

In all these phrases — and many more — there is always something missing: human beings. It was not a “shadow” that spread across Eastern Europe in 1945. It was an army. Nor is it “materials” and “secrets” that build bombs — it is bomb-makers. It was not “networks” that struck in Madrid and London and the rest. It was terrorists acting in the name of Islam.

Listen now to this:

“If we could win a battle of ideas against the communists, we can stand with the vast majority of Muslims who reject the extremism that leads to hate instead of hope.”

It is alas tragically untrue that the “vast majority” of Muslims reject extremism. By every measure, extremism is accepted by very large numbers within the Muslim-majority world — and by even larger numbers of the Muslim minority in Europe.

Now this:

“In this century — in this city of all cities — we must reject the Cold War mindset of the past, and resolve to work with Russia when we can, to stand up for our values when we must, and to seek a partnership that extends across this entire continent.”

Russia has reverted to authoritarian rule. It uses its oil and gas to muscle its neighbors. The rulers of Russia are almost certainly responsible for the assassination of one of their most effective critics on British soil — and for the murder of dozens of journalists at home. These are facts, not delusions born of some “Cold War mindset.”

Next: “We must support the … Israelis and Palestinians who seek a secure and lasting peace.” Which Palestinians would those be? And what if Israel elects a government that does not believe a “secure and lasting peace” is achievable anytime soon? Does Israel forfeit “support” if it recognizes reality?

Last, consider this: “And despite past differences, this is the moment when the world should support the millions of Iraqis who seek to rebuild their lives, even as we pass responsibility to the Iraqi government and finally bring this war to a close.”

The insurgency in Iraq was launched not by the United States, but by Baathists and al-Qaeda. If that war is coming to an end, it is because the atrocities of the terrorists alienated former supporters — and because the surge of American military power inside Iraq has hunted and harried the terrorists almost to extinction.

Obama’s vague language is the product of an unrealistic mind. He denies the reality of conflict — and flinches from the obligations of self-defense. Obama has risen to power by using a soothing cloud of meaningless words to conceal displeasing truths and avoid difficult choices. His more worldly supporters will quietly whisper that Obama thinks more incisively than his speeches suggest. Let’s hope so. Yet the speech in Berlin should cause us all to wonder: Maybe Obama’s mind really is as foggy as his language.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Germany; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: foreignpolicy; frum; moveondotorg; obama; obamasbigadventure; obamavisit; rhetoric; speeches; victorycolumn

1 posted on 07/25/2008 2:47:00 PM PDT by Clive
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To: exg; Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; backhoe; Byron_the_Aussie; Cannoneer No. 4; ...

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2 posted on 07/25/2008 2:47:31 PM PDT by Clive
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To: Clive

Gore peaked to early, Kerry peaked to early... Will they never learn that lesson? The Obamenation has also provided way to much information too soon giving plenty of time for rebuttal and counter strategery. McCain just quietly plugs along not saying to much... Tactically McCain has the better campaign so far.


3 posted on 07/25/2008 2:51:59 PM PDT by DariusBane (Obamessiah the Assholian do not deny Him. (K-oneTexas creates assholian))
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To: Clive

Obama’s use of the term “This is the moment” is so lame.

I say the same thing after eating bad mayo and heading for the shi**er. :-)


4 posted on 07/25/2008 2:52:33 PM PDT by vietvet67
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To: Clive; neverdem

Ping.


5 posted on 07/25/2008 2:54:30 PM PDT by fanfan (SCC:Canadians have constitutional protection to all opinions, as long as they are based on the facts)
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To: Clive
Mixed metaphors and soggy logic

Add in hatred, and you've got Brain Food for too many Democrats.
6 posted on 07/25/2008 2:54:37 PM PDT by VOA
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To: vietvet67

LOL!

The only moment that actually exists is The Obama Moment.

Or is that Movement?


7 posted on 07/25/2008 2:56:22 PM PDT by fanfan (SCC:Canadians have constitutional protection to all opinions, as long as they are based on the facts)
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To: vietvet67; Chieftain

ROFLMAO!!!!

this is the moment....


8 posted on 07/25/2008 2:56:37 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (WE NEED A TROOP SURGE IN CHICAGO !)
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To: Clive
"Maybe Obama’s mind really is as foggy as his language."

Has he ever done a day of real work in his life?
9 posted on 07/25/2008 2:57:06 PM PDT by kenavi ("My mudder thanks you, my fodder thanks you, and Obama thanks you!")
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To: Clive

Could an Obama have commanded the Berlin Wall to come down?

Would have have had the nerve? Would have had a clue what it would take to make that wall come down, and would have had what it takes to go up against the Soviets, and the European mobs, and the Democratic Party to make it come down?

He takes the work of better men than he as a given, whether it be the liberation of East Germany and eastern europe, or the liberation of Iraq and Afghanistan, or the victory of the Surge. He wraps himself in the successes of better men, successes he could not have matched and would have opposed had it been within his power.

Eastern Europe, Iraq, and Afghanistan are free not thanks to men like Obama but in spite of them, over the tops of them, against their every advice and against their will.


10 posted on 07/25/2008 2:58:23 PM PDT by marron
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To: kenavi
Has he ever done a day of real work in his life?

No.

11 posted on 07/25/2008 2:59:17 PM PDT by marron
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To: DariusBane

The reason they peak too soon is because of the target demographic that they’re playing to: 18-29 year olds.

They select candidates largely based on image. Kerry, Gore, and especially Obama...they’re viewed as the cool, trendy picks. Problem is, fads usually wear thin with this group within about 6 months and then suddenly, out of the blue, that same crowd will start rejecting it. That’s why I believe they always show up in the primaries but are utterly unreliable in November. The ‘new and shiny’ wears off, the fad runs its course and burns out quickly, and by the time the election arrives, many of them simply don’t care anymore.


12 posted on 07/25/2008 3:01:16 PM PDT by VOR78
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To: Clive

Fine Froth From Frum!


13 posted on 07/25/2008 3:01:33 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Are you ready to pray for Teddy?)
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To: Clive
Liberalism is about escape from reality. The reality the world is a dangerous place. The reality there is good and evil. The reality that its governed by the use of force. The reality that men are not angels and the reality that government exists to constrain their basest passions. All of these are things liberals refuse to accept in the naive belief the world is safe, whatever disagreements exist are the result of misunderstandings and that people are basically born good. And that government can perfect human nature. Liberalism is based on the utopian premise that all differences can be banished and Man can exist happily ever after in a paradisaical world. Conservatism accepts that life is hard, that differences exist for a reason and mankind's ultimate task is moral self-governance. We may get to live in that paradisaical world some day but it won't be easy. Its only through hardship that we find the best things in life.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

14 posted on 07/25/2008 3:04:30 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Clive

Great parsing of a pathetic speech.


15 posted on 07/25/2008 3:06:19 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (www.selfgovernment.us)
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To: Clive; jazusamo; redgolum; happygrl; goldstategop; STE=Q; narses; cpforlife.org; Coleus; balls; ...
They need to check his speeches for plagiarism:

Rush Limbaugh:"The one phrase they might remember from his speech is, "This is our moment. This is our time. This is our chance" to do whatever. These words were uttered by the front man for U2, Bono, in the July, 2005 Live 8 concert."

Is there any chance U2 could pick him up as a back-up singer for Bono? He should be able to get just as much ego gratification in a retro '80s band.

How is he with a tambourine?

16 posted on 07/25/2008 3:07:18 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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17 posted on 07/25/2008 3:11:11 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: VOR78

18-24s are still growing, emotionally, mentally, with respect to character. What can be seductive one day, can seem shallow a few weeks later. Dems spend a lot of time fine tuning the bait without regard to the demographic as actual, living changing, evolving human beings. It is also largely due to liberals themselves that adolescence extends to people in their mid-twenties.

The style over substance mindset hurts the donks, in the end.


18 posted on 07/25/2008 3:11:47 PM PDT by reformedliberal (Capitalism is what happens when governments get out of the way.)
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To: Clive
"Obama’s use of the term 'This is the moment' is so lame."

Oh, but it's so "American Idol"!

19 posted on 07/25/2008 3:13:15 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: loveliberty2
"Oh, but it's so "American Idol"!" 19 posted on Friday, July 25, 2008 6:13:15 PM by loveliberty2

Bingo. But could we trust Simon and Paula to give it a gong?

20 posted on 07/25/2008 3:18:59 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Clive
If Obama wins, I'm already sick of his first four years.
21 posted on 07/25/2008 3:24:20 PM PDT by hummingbird (If Obama wins, I'm already sick of his first four years.)
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To: VOR78

Good points. The only adjustment is that Gore was not really picked for image they were stuck with him. BUT to support your argument they did put him in rolling stone and did the whole Alpha Male thing.


22 posted on 07/25/2008 3:31:54 PM PDT by DariusBane (Obamessiah the Assholian do not deny Him. (K-oneTexas creates assholian))
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

How is he with a tambourine?:

Hows about the Cow Bell?


23 posted on 07/25/2008 3:34:46 PM PDT by DariusBane (Obamessiah the Assholian do not deny Him. (K-oneTexas creates assholian))
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To: DariusBane

DariusBane wrote:"How's about the Cow Bell?"

More Cowbell?

Yeah, they might need that, too. If he can play a mean cowbell, there might be a full-time gig for him. Somehow, "Don't Fear the Reaper" seems like a more apt Obama anthem than U2's "Beautiful Day."

I almost expected him to promise the Berliners: "We'll be able to fly..."

24 posted on 07/25/2008 3:48:35 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Clive
I can hardly wait for his compelling, original, under the top rhetoric at the DNC convention:

"It was a dark and stormy night..."

25 posted on 07/25/2008 3:50:24 PM PDT by Bernard (If you always tell the truth, you never have to remember exactly what you said.)
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

lol


26 posted on 07/25/2008 3:51:24 PM PDT by DariusBane (Obamessiah the Assholian do not deny Him. (K-oneTexas creates assholian))
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To: DariusBane

"Come on baby...don't fear the reaper
Baby take my hand...don't fear the reaper
We'll be able to fly...don't fear the reaper
Baby I'm your man..."

It fits. Good call.

27 posted on 07/25/2008 4:00:28 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Clive

John McCain will have to expose all of these weaknesses in the Debates; it’s a MUST!!!


28 posted on 07/25/2008 4:10:59 PM PDT by no dems (99% of the Politicians give all the others a bad name.)
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To: vietvet67
Obama’s use of the term “This is the moment” is so lame.

Yes, when we heard that clip this a.m., Mrs. jimfree began to sing from Stop the World I Want to Get Off.

Anybody?

"For this is my moment
My destiny calls me
And tho' it may be just once in my lifetime
I'm gonna do great things!"

29 posted on 07/25/2008 4:11:44 PM PDT by jimfree (Freep and Ye shall find.)
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To: Clive
draws a huge cheering crowd. George W. Bush obviously could never do that. Nor could John McCain.

Maybe because they don't have a free Reggae concert like the one just before the anointed one was to speak?

Why is no media reporting this? There should also be video clips of how many came to the concert - and then people could wonder, "How many came for the free concert and how many would have come without it?"

30 posted on 07/25/2008 4:33:11 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in sending this message but a large number of electrons were terrible agitated)
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To: maine-iac7
maine-iac7 wrote: "Why is no media reporting this? There should also be video clips of how many came to the concert - and then people could wonder, "How many came for the free concert and how many would have come without it?"
30 posted on Friday, July 25, 2008 7:33:11 PM by maine-iac7

The media is participating in these orchestrated pep rallies and photo-ops. They may be under orders as to what to report and not report. You would think that most educated and intelligent Americans would begin to see the phoniness of these staged events, how unusual and bizarre it is for a presidential candidate to be delivering fatwa speeches in foreign capitals, and how clear it is that he is being escorted into power like a puppet by powerful cabals interconnected with the MSM.

31 posted on 07/25/2008 4:38:36 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Clive
We need to FREEP Rush, Hannity and all (we can leave out O'Reilly - he's covering for the obamination, hoping to get him on his show) - to tell people to watch the obamination whenever he gives a speech. His head swings from one side to the other, like at a tennis match - reading the two side prompters.

If people catch on to this, they'll laugh their heads off...

I pray for, one day, one of the prompters to go blank - and watch the panic and the stumbling - and then the head stays in one position as the reads from the ONE prompter.

32 posted on 07/25/2008 4:39:40 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in sending this message but a large number of electrons were terrible agitated)
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To: goldstategop

Love your posts, great insight.


33 posted on 07/25/2008 4:46:50 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Clive
Obama’s vague language is the product of an unrealistic mind. He denies the reality of conflict — and flinches from the obligations of self-defense. Obama has risen to power by using a soothing cloud of meaningless words to conceal displeasing truths and avoid difficult choices.

Barry Dunham Soetoro Obama must have flunked History, Civics and Social Studies. He must not be able to read "real good" to have written or allowed to be written this totally Pathetic Speech. All he cares about is his voice's modulation and ability to lull the masses.

But the masses are slowly waking up and realizing that Barry Obama is a vapor and soon will be a byword.

34 posted on 07/25/2008 6:06:36 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (Each of us has our own song. When you find yours, it brings you great joy.)
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To: Clive

When Reagan said Tear Down this Wall, all of his advisers told him not to say it and he agreed not to. He was supposed to say open this gate and was caught up in the moment and went ahead and said one of the greatest lines ever spoken.

For Black Oblack to copy that line with some flowery mumbo jumbo only makes a weak speech absolutely pathetic.

Pray for W and Our Troops


35 posted on 07/25/2008 8:37:00 PM PDT by bray (Drill Congress!!)
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To: Clive

“Obama’s vague language is the product of an unrealistic mind. He denies the reality of conflict — and flinches from the obligations of self-defense. Obama has risen to power by using a soothing cloud of meaningless words to conceal displeasing truths and avoid difficult choices. His more worldly supporters will quietly whisper that Obama thinks more incisively than his speeches suggest. Let’s hope so. Yet the speech in Berlin should cause us all to wonder: Maybe Obama’s mind really is as foggy as his language.”

The man has no core, no belief system - just hunger for power and expediency. He’s as ungrounded and slimy as Bill Clinton.


36 posted on 07/25/2008 11:21:04 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

WE are the change YOU have been seeking.


37 posted on 07/26/2008 5:42:00 AM PDT by ichabod1 (If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it, and if it stops moving, subsidize it.)
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To: Clive

Clive, this is a great catch, the best succinct analysis of Obama in Europe.


38 posted on 07/30/2008 8:58:24 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: marron
Eastern Europe, Iraq, and Afghanistan are free not thanks to men like Obama but in spite of them, over the tops of them, against their every advice and against their will.

Ain't that the truth!

Marron, this is your moment! (Well said).

39 posted on 07/30/2008 9:01:41 PM PDT by happygrl
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