Posted on 07/21/2008 12:16:06 PM PDT by SE Mom
In his interview with CBS News, Obama says:
Logan: Because you do have a situation seven years on into this war where Osama bin Laden and all his lieutenants and all the leaders of the Taliban, they’re still there. And they’re inside Pakistan.
Obama: Right. It’s a huge problem. And first of all, if we hadn’t taken our eye off the ball, we might have caught them before they got into Pakistan and were able to reconstitute themselves. Several times in recent interviews, Obama has referred to "taken our eye off the ball" in terms of the invasion of Iraq, which began in March of 2003. We don't know precisely when Osama bin Laden entered Pakistan, but it is generally believed that he escaped Tora Bora and crossed the border sometime in late November or the beginning of December 2001.
(Somehow the U.S. took its collective eyes off the ball to prevent an event that occurred in December 2001 by sending troops to another country starting in March 2002 for an invasion that began in 2003.
It's not as if the geopolitical challenges of sending U.S. troops into Pakistan suddenly appeared in March 2003. Once Osama crossed the border, the potential cost of pursuing him —i.e., a civil war in a country with nuclear weapons — became higher and the consequences became riskier.
Also note that CBS' Lara Logan forces Obama to concede that his oft-touted call to kill Osama bin Laden in Pakistani territory is actually current U.S. policy. )
(Excerpt) Read more at campaignspot.nationalreview.com ...
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Logan: Isn’t that the case now? I mean, do you really think that if the U.S. forces had Osama bin Laden in their sights and the Pakistanis said no, that they wouldn’t fire or wouldn’t go after him?
Obama: I think actually this is current doctrine. There was some dispute when I said this last August. Both the administration and some of my opponents suggested, well, you know, you shouldn’t go around saying that. But I don’t think there’s any doubt that that should be our policy, and will continue to be our policy.
Logan: But it is the current policy.
Obama: I believe it is the current policy.
Logan: So there’s no change then.
Obama: I don’t think there is going to be a change there.
And that Obama and Logan get stuck in a merry-go-round of "I'll get the Pakistanis to destroy the training camps"/"What if they won't?"
Obama: I think that in order for us to be successful, it’s not going to be enough just to engage in the occasional shot fired. We’ve got training camps that are growing and multiplying…
Logan: Would you take out all those training camps?
Obama: Well, I think that what we’d like to see is the Pakistani government take out those training camps.
Logan: And if they won’t?
Obama: Well, I think that we’ve got to work with them so they will.
Logan: But would you consider unilateral U.S. action?
Obama: You know, I will push Pakistan very hard to make sure that we go after those training camps. I think it’s absolutely vital to the security interests of both the United States and Pakistan." ---
Again, it's not that it's never dawned on Musharraff or the Pakistani government that cracking down on al-Qaeda and Taliban training camps is a good idea. It's that they fear the entire region would turn against the Pakistani government, with additional questions of loyalty of the ISI.
Fool.
B. Hussein Obama is a buffoon.
The media can pretend that this is ‘new and interesting’ while it is just diplo-babble from a guy who never had to make a life-or-death decision in his life. And has cavalierly thrown about these options as though he lives in a universe without consequences (well, at least when it comes to the media, he does....).
Obama is right. The real invasion in Iraq occurred in August 2001 prior to Bush flying planes into the world trade center. The vote in 2002 and the subsequent ‘invasion’ was really just a coverup for the illegal war that was already going on.
Note: I had my moonbat hat on.
I absolutely DETEST Lord Obama.
It can't go on like this forever. I have to think there will be a backlash at some point from regular decent Americans...?? There has to be a breaking point.
This guy, Obama, is a buffoon. And this would be funny if he wasn’t running for President.
Lindsey Lohan could have grilled Obama better than Laura Logan.
Keep that sh-t up Maestro and Lord Obamination will turn you into A PILLAR OF SALT
“I absolutely DETEST Lord Obama.”
You’re preaching to the choir.
:-)
“taken our eye off the ball”
...how about a fist in your eye Obambi?!
Give him an open microphone and no script... watch the fun!
[It can’t go on like this forever. I have to think there will be a backlash at some point from regular decent Americans...?? There has to be a breaking point.]
Hillary is providing all the rope necessary for BHO to kill his chances. She will yank the rope tight just before the convention and then ride in on her white (pun intended) horse to save the day.
Does anyone really think the black backlash will last more than one news cycle? Blacks have been under the dem thumb for decades and it won’t change in any significant way.
the real reason for 9-11 was the administration previous to bush had an intern on the balls
Bizarre and a little frightening.
Logan: And if they won’t?
Obama: Well, I think that we’ve got to work with them so they will.
Logan: But would you consider unilateral U.S. action?
Obama: You know, I will push Pakistan very hard to make sure that we go after those training camps.
It kind of reminds one of this scene in A Few Good Men:
Lt. Weinberg to Cmdr Galloway: "I strenuously object?" Is that how it works? Hm? "Objection." "Overruled." "Oh, no, no, no. No, I STRENUOUSLY object." "Oh. Well, if you strenuously object then I should take some time to reconsider."
Wouldn’t you pay money just to slap him?
Here’s the question Fox, is anyone but a few of us- relative to the population...paying attention?
It can't go on like this forever. I have to think there will be a backlash at some point from regular decent Americans...?? There has to be a breaking point.
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You are not the only one completely disturbed by Obama’s big EGO TRIP overseas.
This is what I was thinking this morning: Americans have a very short memory. This trip is such an obvious PR stunt, you'd have to be blind to see it. If the MSM gets into bed any deeper with BHO, they are going to produce a love-child with him.
Anyway, this is only July 21st. The election is Nov. 21st. Seeing that BHO really doesn't have a clue about anything, obviously doesn't know history, etc. and is terrified of debates and open-question townhall meetings with McCain, what do you think is going to be happening for the next two and 1/2 months (which is an eternity in politics)?
What will BHO do? What will he do to top this big Ego Trip of his?
I believe that he is a megalomaniac and an adulation addict and he lives for praise from the masses, but is terrified of being questioned and examined up close.
Any thoughts? Does this trip represent the height of his glory days?
Well, the main stupid thing in this interview is that Obama is answering hypothetical questions. Bush rightly refuses to do that because they really serve no valuable purpose.
RUSH: This guy is a jerk. An arrogant jerk. A jerk messiah.
And don't you dare expect him to answer any questions he doesn't want to answer. The MSM wants to keep the secret that he is STUPID, inexperienced and a socialist.
We would all have to stand in line. I don't think we are alone.
Make that a BITCH slap.
ROFL! Perfect!
I swear, NO ONE COULD MAKE THIS STUFF UP. WHO in their wildest dreams, four short years ago would have believed ANYONE could come across with more condescension than Kerry?
Didn’t we think he was pretty much the pinnacle?
Hah! Never say never:)
Scary question I don't want the answer to.
Just a microphone with attendees asking questions. No media to interfere,a time limit for answers,etc.
do any of us REALLY think obama will agree to a townhall?? he’s such an absolute wuss and no one is pushing him into this format?
thoughts?
That’s nothing... I have a debate memory for ya.
Forget it, the bastard’s scrubbing the youtube videos.
Remember in a debate he was asked what if there’s another attack on America and you know who did it, what would you do? He compared getting Homeland more strong citing Katrina as example, then went totally tangent... without answering the question. You might as well say ‘police action’.
You would think the stinking, freedom loving democrats had something to say about these violations of our free speech rights.
If they haven’t said anything about mandatory conscription for the National Security Civilian Force, they’ll never speak up. Don’t bother to look, he scrubbed that too.
I guess I lost that video as well.
Goog GRIEF- it get’s worse. I was so bowled over by this post on the Campain Spot that I neglected to read THIS one from earlier in the day:
(Part of the same CBS interview)
Obama, speaking to CBS News, about Pakistan.
Obama: The United States has to take a regional approach to the problem. Just as we can’t be myopic and focus only on Iraq, we also can’t think that we can solve the security problems here in Afghanistan without engaging the Pakistan government.
Logan: How do you compel Pakistan to act?
Obama: Well, you know, I think that the U.S. government provides an awful lot of aid to Pakistan, provides a lot of military support to Pakistan. And to send a clear message to Pakistan that this is important, to them as well as to us, that I think — that message has not been sent.
(Jim G then says):
Ah. We have not sent a message to the Pakistani government that targeting Taliban and al-Qaeda is important. This will be surprising news to Khalid Sheik Muhammad, arrested by Pakistani authorities in Rawalpindi on March 1, 2003.
I’ve noted this earlier, but Obama remains absolutely convinced that the primary problem in taking on the Taliban and al-Qaeda is that the Pakistani government is insufficiently motivated, and that he will convince Musharraf, Pakistani Prime Minister Gallani, and the Pakistani government to take stronger action in the northwestern frontier regions. Obama will persuade Musharraf to take a tougher line on groups that have tried to kill him. Apparently bombs going off in their cities is insufficient to get the Pakistanis to crack down, but Obama’s threat to their aid package will.
At no point is the reliability or loyalty of the ISI or Frontier Corps mentioned as an obstacle
http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MDFjNGZkY2MwNmRmNzFjYmY2NDMxYTExYmRmYzQ4MTk=
A very Igmorant, very Stupid, very Egotistical, very Blind, very Incoherent, very Mentally Unstable, very Anti American, very Pro Muslim, very Socialist Leftist Communist, very Dangerous Buffoon! HHMM, does that about cover it! :-)
One of my all-time favorite movies! So many good lines.
When you realize that 2/3 of Americans are totally brain washed dunces and within that 2/3rds, most are liberal crazy cult worshipers, what can we expect. No breaking point for the mentally ill.
I think you forgot Racist...
A lot of words but nothing new or news worthy.
Nobama acts like nothing has ever been done about Bin Laden since the war began.
Al Queda has been seriously degraded and many of the top officers have been caparured killed or driven under ground where they are basically useless.
A first term junior Senator speaks and proves that he lacks the maturity and knowledge to be the Commander in Chief.
I think his preferred title is “Lord High Chancellor, God Emperor, of the Peoples Republic of the United States”, or SOMETHING like that...
He’ll probably finalize it AFTER the coronation.
Gosh! I screwed up again!!!
Please add:
Obie, “the Jerk Messiah”*, is also an extremely, arrogantly, terrifying, Dangerous Racist!
* Title quoted from Rush Limbaugh
I hope McCain keeps pushing for Town Hall debates.McCain pushed him into going to Iraq,even offered to go with him. See what happend? Obambi looks the fool.
Now THAT about covers it.
mine is made of tin foil and has dual antennas :)
Correction:
“People’s Republic”
Please correct to:
“People’s Caliphate”!
Throwing change under the bus now?
It’s not the change he knew.
How many “jump the shark moments” is this guy allowed? Absolutely vapid!
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