Posted on 07/20/2008 1:04:29 PM PDT by mojito
What is wrong with the US asking for clarification of what Maliki said? Afterall, Bush/Maliki agreed on Friday to a long term strategy with a time horizon, not a time line and no specific withdrawal dates.
The media hubub over this is absurd; in standard format they are rooting for the Obambi.
I don’t doubt for one minute that Der Speigel intentionally tuned quotes in order to help the Obambi with is upcoming trip to Germany.
All of it will backfire on Obama and the media.
That he is giving a speech in a foreign land about US relations with Europe as a candidate is laughable on its face. The man thinks he is god.
How does this pertain to my comments? I'm not in disagreement with you here. It's obvious the evil Iranian regime is trying to take charge in Iraq and Palestine + Lebanon through their minions. Hardly veiled their strategy. But please produce me some more info on their alleged role in 9/11. Frankly I don't give it much credence. If they wanted to pursue their Nuke program quickly, they sure as heck wouldn't have needed a 9/11 that woke the USA up and started the American regime-change world tour that had them on the sights together with North Korea and Iraq (Axis of Evil). Back then they had the "play nice" Khatami "Reformist" Government which was playing a friendly fiddle to the West. Without 9/11 they could have continued their nuke program quietly and smoothly without alerting the world too much. So what sense would 9/11 make for them?
It was Al-Qaeda throwing Jihad on America. If it was anything other than Al-Qaeda, the idea of Saddam taking revenge on America for Desert Storm would have made sense, as well.
I think the practitioners of the Religion of Peace called the Taliban are pretty offended by our troops
Taking a anti war position is fine as long as you understand we really didn't know where we would be concerning terrorism after 9/11 in America. The Bush administration made a decision to be preemptive rather than wait for whatever was to come after 9/11. I can live with that, if you can't, Oh well. It's your right.
That shows a real, deep and abiding concern for the well being of our soldiers, right Pop?
I have a deep and abiding respect for every solider engaged in the battle, including my brother, they know the cost, the possibility of making the ultimate sacrifice, the reason they are there. Nobody is making them sign up to fight, if I was twenty five years younger I'd be there with them
I agree that this stuff is set up. It actually helps us because the media has so little respect for us.
There is a reason why the infantry is called "The Queen of The Battlefield". Airstrikes mainly take out key targets. It takes the infantry to clean up the board. You do not defeat ideologies and armies with just airstrikes.
“...if I was twenty five years younger I’d be there with them....”
Alas, for better or for worse, neither of us are 25 years younger. At my age, however, were I in a position to order troops around, the LAST thing I would do is order them to fight and die but don’t offend. For that matter, I’d never order the shedding of one single drop of precious American blood to enshrine devil worshiping Mohammedanism in anyone’s constitution!
I suspect you know as well as I do that war is serious business. It should be fought in complete disregard for the tender sensitivities of the enemy, combatants or otherwise, where legitimate military objects are being pursued. Once the enemy military is destroyed, the ability and desire of the enemy populace to resist must be similarly crushed. The sooner a war is over, in victory, the better. But that’s not what happened, at least until the surge, in Iraq. One word sums up what those geniuses in DC did...Fallujah! There are dead Marines who ought to be home with their families right now because our fearless leaders wouldn’t do what needed to be done there!
I hope some gunny told him “Mal, next time you feel the need to think something, let me know and I’ll tell you what it is.”
Are you insane? The U.S. is in Iraq to help the Iraqis- if the Iraqis don’t want our help, you’re not going to listen to them?
Yeah, that’ll make them love us even more and totally further the mission.
The Iraqi people didn't help themselves for 30 years and we didn't help them much either until it was in our interest to do so.
We are there to stabilize the Middle east. If the Iraqi leaders want us to leave tough shit. we will have a presence there for the next 50 years. Do you actually think we spend billions of dollars, thousands of lives to be told what to do by politicians we install?
We will leave when it is in our interest to leave.
But if the majority of the Iraqi people don’t want us there in the future, then how will it be “democracy” if we stay there against their wishes?
And I didn’t think we were in the interest of “installing” politicians. Doesn’t sound like much of a republic.
Normy is right. A democratic Republic in Iraq is dandy and fine, we went through great lengths to help them set up a viable government and constitution. But you are sorely mistaken if you think that this is the single or foremost reason why we’re there. No it’s about OUR interests and security. We still call the shots. Iraqi politicos make occasionally dumb remarks, mostly to gain political points from some of their constituents. But they know that they need us. It’s the way it ought to be.
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