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Obama to speak near Berlin's Brandenburg Gate
Townhall.com ^ | July 20, 2008 | Melissa Eddy

Posted on 07/20/2008 11:41:22 AM PDT by Kaslin

Barack Obama's campaign said Sunday he will give a speech on the future of trans-Atlantic relations in front of a Prussian war monument in downtown Berlin _ in view of the historic Brandenburg Gate.

The announcement that he will speak at the Victory Column, or Siegessaeule, ended weeks of speculation here. It also triggered criticism that the 226-foot column built in 1873 to celebrate Prussian war victories over Denmark, Austria and France was an inappropriate choice.

One of Berlin's best-known monuments, the column is topped by a golden, winged figure representing Victoria, the Roman goddess of victory. It stood in front of Germany's parliament building, the Reichstag, until the late 1930s when Adolf Hitler's architect Albert Speer moved it to its current location in the middle of the Tiergarten park as part of uncompleted plans for a grandiose remake of the capital.

"I ask myself whether Obama was well advised to choose the Siegessaeule as a place for a speech on his vision for global cooperation," Rainer Bruederle of the opposition Free Democrats was quoted as telling the Bild am Sonntag weekly.

Since German reunification, the column has become known as the central location for Berliners to party.

At the other end, about a mile away, is Pariser Platz square and the Brandenburg Gate. Obama had wanted to give the speech there, but Chancellor Angela Merkel quashed the idea.

She defended her criticism of that location on Sunday, telling ARD television that the Brandenburg Gate _ the backdrop for speeches by Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton _ is linked to U.S. presidents.

"If the candidate _ or any other candidate _ is elected, then (he) is welcome to speak as president before the Brandenburg Gate," Merkel said, indicating that Obama's Republican rival for the presidency, Sen. John McCain, would be equally welcome.

Merkel declined, however, to comment on the Siegessaeule, saying only that "the team has made its decision and that will be approved and now we will take this location for what it is."

Obama was in Afghanistan on Sunday as part of a tour abroad that also will take him to Iraq and the Middle East. After speaking in Berlin on Thursday he is to visit France and England.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Germany; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: foreignpolicy; germany; ichbineindummkopf; lendmeyourears; obama; obamasbigadventure; obamavisit; victorycolumn
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To: Michael81Dus
Stop, he will speak NEAR (1/2 mile) not AT the Brandenburg Gate.

I'm pretty sure he doesn't even deserve to be that close.

21 posted on 07/20/2008 12:18:52 PM PDT by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: Kaslin

Der Obamaführer will declare himself to be a jelly donut.


22 posted on 07/20/2008 12:19:39 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (Five Year Plans and New Deals, wrapped in golden chains...)
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To: Fresh Wind
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23 posted on 07/20/2008 12:20:33 PM PDT by cruise_missile ('')
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To: fzx12345

Ich bin ein flip-flopper.


24 posted on 07/20/2008 12:27:10 PM PDT by cruise_missile ('')
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To: fzx12345
Ich bin ein Weiner.

He's gonna claim he's from Vienna? (switch the i and e and it works, otherwise you're talking about a city in Arkansas)

25 posted on 07/20/2008 12:32:57 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Kaslin

Since we already know he will speak at the astoundingly ugly Siegessaeule and it is nowhwere near the Brandenburg Gate, the article is kind of out of touch.


26 posted on 07/20/2008 12:37:47 PM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: Kaslin
"Mr Putin, put back that wall..."
27 posted on 07/20/2008 12:55:01 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: Kaslin

I think that Obama should speak at the reviewing platform on Red Square. Putin and Obama like each other, so I am quite sure that this could be arranged.


28 posted on 07/20/2008 12:57:53 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: RightWhale; Allegra; RoseofTexas

perhaps Barry could give a little “speechify’in” at Hitler’s grave

sh*t! , .. most tourists that know how to probe , without being offensive , can be steered to The Parking Area {{*snicker*}}


29 posted on 07/20/2008 1:06:16 PM PDT by Dad yer funny (FoxNews is morphing , and not for the better ,... internal struggle? Its hard to watch)
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To: fzx12345

...but he’s not an Oscar Meyer.


30 posted on 07/20/2008 1:06:19 PM PDT by RetSignman (DEMSM: "If you tell a big enough lie, frequently enough, it becomes the truth")
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To: Bon mots
"Г-н Путин, положил назад ту стену" Let him say it in Russian and I'd be somewhat impressed.
31 posted on 07/20/2008 1:14:27 PM PDT by RetSignman (DEMSM: "If you tell a big enough lie, frequently enough, it becomes the truth")
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To: cruise_missile; Roscoe Karns; Grampa Dave

If one could create an image on the web (I can’t).

1. Obama presidential seal replaces winged angel on column top.

2. Obama at base wearing a Prussian helmet ,


32 posted on 07/20/2008 1:32:32 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Kaslin
"The announcement that he will speak at the Victory Column, or Siegessaeule, ended weeks of speculation here. It also triggered criticism that the 226-foot column built in 1873 to celebrate Prussian war victories over Denmark, Austria and France was an inappropriate choice.

The reason it's 226 feet tall is because Hitler and the Nazis had a special affection for the monument, and increased the size of it to make it more grandiose.

But Obama likes grandiose.

Krauthammer nailed it when he said Obama's only accomplishments are the two books he wrote about his favorite subject ----himself.

33 posted on 07/20/2008 2:04:32 PM PDT by cookcounty (Obama reach across the aisle? He's so far to the left, he'll need a roadmap to FIND the aisle.)
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To: fzx12345

Ich bin ein kartoffelsalat!


34 posted on 07/20/2008 2:05:10 PM PDT by TigersEye (Drill or get off the Hill. ... call Nancy Pelosi @ 202 - 225 - 0100)
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To: cookcounty

With 300 foreign policy advisors, you’d think Obambi could avoid dopey mistakes like this. Maybe he needs 3,000 advisors.


35 posted on 07/20/2008 2:06:54 PM PDT by cookcounty (Obama reach across the aisle? He's so far to the left, he'll need a roadmap to FIND the aisle.)
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To: TigersEye

As Ron White would say: “Sie rufen mich ‘toffelsalat an”


36 posted on 07/20/2008 2:24:51 PM PDT by CDB ("Typical white person"--B. Hussein Obama, the "Magic Negro")
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To: Kaslin
Since German reunification, the column has become known as the central location for Berliners to party.

My wife tells me the victory column (Siegessaeule) is also the local gay pride symbol.

37 posted on 07/20/2008 2:31:33 PM PDT by jim-x (God help America survive its enemies within.)
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To: RightWhale
IMO its kinda cool looking from a distance, its columns made up of war booty, captured artillery etc. But up close it is ugly - its covered in graffiti. It does not appear to have been maintained at all.
38 posted on 07/20/2008 2:35:15 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: CDB
Get ready for the MSM news bombardment starting Monday. The military controls all American news that comes out of Iraq as far as military bases and personnel goes, so he doesn't have much of an opportunity to get any propaganda shots there. I saw that they did find one black service lady for him to eat next to, that way at least one person would be smiling with him in the photo. They were the only 2 you could see in the shot. Starting tomorrow let the propaganda machine to go into full swing!!!!
39 posted on 07/20/2008 2:38:00 PM PDT by cla62
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To: kcvl

Hopefully alot of Freepers will read and send to and educate their friends on the sheer immorality and disgusting character of this alleged nominee to the highest office in the land!


40 posted on 07/20/2008 2:43:47 PM PDT by NOBAMA in 08 (An Empty Suited Opportunist with No Redeeming Value!)
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