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Obama to speak near Berlin's Brandenburg Gate
Townhall.com ^ | July 20, 2008 | Melissa Eddy

Posted on 07/20/2008 11:41:22 AM PDT by Kaslin

Barack Obama's campaign said Sunday he will give a speech on the future of trans-Atlantic relations in front of a Prussian war monument in downtown Berlin _ in view of the historic Brandenburg Gate.

The announcement that he will speak at the Victory Column, or Siegessaeule, ended weeks of speculation here. It also triggered criticism that the 226-foot column built in 1873 to celebrate Prussian war victories over Denmark, Austria and France was an inappropriate choice.

One of Berlin's best-known monuments, the column is topped by a golden, winged figure representing Victoria, the Roman goddess of victory. It stood in front of Germany's parliament building, the Reichstag, until the late 1930s when Adolf Hitler's architect Albert Speer moved it to its current location in the middle of the Tiergarten park as part of uncompleted plans for a grandiose remake of the capital.

"I ask myself whether Obama was well advised to choose the Siegessaeule as a place for a speech on his vision for global cooperation," Rainer Bruederle of the opposition Free Democrats was quoted as telling the Bild am Sonntag weekly.

Since German reunification, the column has become known as the central location for Berliners to party.

At the other end, about a mile away, is Pariser Platz square and the Brandenburg Gate. Obama had wanted to give the speech there, but Chancellor Angela Merkel quashed the idea.

She defended her criticism of that location on Sunday, telling ARD television that the Brandenburg Gate _ the backdrop for speeches by Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton _ is linked to U.S. presidents.

"If the candidate _ or any other candidate _ is elected, then (he) is welcome to speak as president before the Brandenburg Gate," Merkel said, indicating that Obama's Republican rival for the presidency, Sen. John McCain, would be equally welcome.

Merkel declined, however, to comment on the Siegessaeule, saying only that "the team has made its decision and that will be approved and now we will take this location for what it is."

Obama was in Afghanistan on Sunday as part of a tour abroad that also will take him to Iraq and the Middle East. After speaking in Berlin on Thursday he is to visit France and England.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Germany; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: foreignpolicy; germany; ichbineindummkopf; lendmeyourears; obama; obamasbigadventure; obamavisit; victorycolumn

1 posted on 07/20/2008 11:41:22 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Hussein better watch it...The European vote is very important in the US elections.../s


2 posted on 07/20/2008 11:44:54 AM PDT by Coffee200am ("We should all be living in mud huts and riding bicycles to avoid killing the polar bears..."/s)
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To: Kaslin

Returning to his intellectual roots, eh? He wants to give us Bismarck-style ‘health care’, organize all sorts of government sponsored ‘Corps’ to extend the reach of the federal government into everyone’s daily life, and is running a campaign based on style that feels like an updated downscale version of stuff Speer and Riefenstahl would have come up with.

Wonderfully appropriate site for an Obama speech.


3 posted on 07/20/2008 11:46:57 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: Kaslin

Obama arrogance at work once again.


4 posted on 07/20/2008 11:47:20 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Kaslin

This is a great perspective on Obama’s hubris for speaking at the Gate:

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=301182809264805


5 posted on 07/20/2008 11:50:59 AM PDT by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: econjack

Stop, he will speak NEAR (1/2 mile) not AT the Brandenburg Gate.


6 posted on 07/20/2008 11:52:00 AM PDT by Michael81Dus (I believe in the One-China-Policy: One China. One Taiwan. One Tibet.)
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To: kcvl

Think many Germans will see (have already seen?) right through him.


7 posted on 07/20/2008 11:52:17 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
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To: Kaslin

obama needs to fire his “ideas” man.


8 posted on 07/20/2008 11:54:22 AM PDT by Schnucki
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To: Kaslin
Another unopened gift to the RNC...sigh! Maybe, hopefully the Jewish community is outraged enough to put out a hit piece on the reincarnation of the Black Hitler Messiah!
9 posted on 07/20/2008 11:54:39 AM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: Kaslin

I think B.Hussein might have blown it when he failed to “address” the NutRoots Nation get together.


10 posted on 07/20/2008 11:56:11 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The U.S. Constitution was not written to protect those who want to destroy America.)
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To: Kaslin

“Heil Obama!”


11 posted on 07/20/2008 11:56:41 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." Ronald Reagan)
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To: Schnucki

That must be Reggie Love, his so called 24 hr/7 day “Butler and Handmaiden” so to speak. Yep a quality aide, just check out the drunken porno pics of Reggie Love on the Internet. Another “positive” image of HUSSEIN’s judgment(NOT!).


12 posted on 07/20/2008 12:02:30 PM PDT by NOBAMA in 08 (An Empty Suited Opportunist with No Redeeming Value!)
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To: NOBAMA in 08

reggie love

Obama’s Body Man Violated

http://gawker.com/393526/obamas-body-man-violated


13 posted on 07/20/2008 12:07:19 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: NOBAMA in 08

Remember when the MSM had a photo of Jenna Bush failing down and called her drunk? This is Obama’s ‘right hand man’ obviously drunk. Where are the magazine articles about that?!


14 posted on 07/20/2008 12:08:54 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Kaslin

An amusing tidbit here:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0708/11886.html

~snip~

The campaign received 200 requests for press seats on the plane.

Among those for whom there was no room was Ryan Lizza, Washington correspondent of The New Yorker. The campaign, which was furious about the magazine’s satirical cover this week, cited space constraints in turning him away.

~snip~


15 posted on 07/20/2008 12:10:03 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: NOBAMA in 08

I wonder if he stocked up on Obama’s choice of snacks before leaving. /s

He knows that “the boss,” as he calls Mr. Obama, likes MET-Rx chocolate roasted-peanut protein bars and bottles of a hard-to-find organic brew — Black Forest Berry Honest Tea. He keeps a supply of both on hand.


16 posted on 07/20/2008 12:12:51 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Kaslin; All
"Obama to speak near Berlin's Brandenburg Gate."

Obama Hope-nosis

Adoring Crowd

17 posted on 07/20/2008 12:13:38 PM PDT by musicman
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To: Kaslin
Once again, Obama reminds us that he is an arrogant idiot.

On a similar note, the news channels were all gushing and worshiping him last night. Tonight, I am (blsiifully) not hearing a peep about him.

I can't help but wonder if their failed Maliki flap has got them a little flummoxed for the moment.

18 posted on 07/20/2008 12:15:01 PM PDT by Allegra (Ain't it grand? I'm back in the sand...)
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To: Kaslin

Ich bin ein Weiner.


19 posted on 07/20/2008 12:15:21 PM PDT by fzx12345 (ZOTTO ERGO SUM)
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To: Michael81Dus
Hussein Obama the Un Candidate

UnExperienced, UnQualified & UnAmerican

20 posted on 07/20/2008 12:15:41 PM PDT by We Dare Defend Our Rights
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To: Michael81Dus
Stop, he will speak NEAR (1/2 mile) not AT the Brandenburg Gate.

I'm pretty sure he doesn't even deserve to be that close.

21 posted on 07/20/2008 12:18:52 PM PDT by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: Kaslin

Der Obamaführer will declare himself to be a jelly donut.


22 posted on 07/20/2008 12:19:39 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (Five Year Plans and New Deals, wrapped in golden chains...)
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To: Fresh Wind
Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting


23 posted on 07/20/2008 12:20:33 PM PDT by cruise_missile ('')
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To: fzx12345

Ich bin ein flip-flopper.


24 posted on 07/20/2008 12:27:10 PM PDT by cruise_missile ('')
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To: fzx12345
Ich bin ein Weiner.

He's gonna claim he's from Vienna? (switch the i and e and it works, otherwise you're talking about a city in Arkansas)

25 posted on 07/20/2008 12:32:57 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Kaslin

Since we already know he will speak at the astoundingly ugly Siegessaeule and it is nowhwere near the Brandenburg Gate, the article is kind of out of touch.


26 posted on 07/20/2008 12:37:47 PM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: Kaslin
"Mr Putin, put back that wall..."
27 posted on 07/20/2008 12:55:01 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: Kaslin

I think that Obama should speak at the reviewing platform on Red Square. Putin and Obama like each other, so I am quite sure that this could be arranged.


28 posted on 07/20/2008 12:57:53 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: RightWhale; Allegra; RoseofTexas

perhaps Barry could give a little “speechify’in” at Hitler’s grave

sh*t! , .. most tourists that know how to probe , without being offensive , can be steered to The Parking Area {{*snicker*}}


29 posted on 07/20/2008 1:06:16 PM PDT by Dad yer funny (FoxNews is morphing , and not for the better ,... internal struggle? Its hard to watch)
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To: fzx12345

...but he’s not an Oscar Meyer.


30 posted on 07/20/2008 1:06:19 PM PDT by RetSignman (DEMSM: "If you tell a big enough lie, frequently enough, it becomes the truth")
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To: Bon mots
"Г-н Путин, положил назад ту стену" Let him say it in Russian and I'd be somewhat impressed.
31 posted on 07/20/2008 1:14:27 PM PDT by RetSignman (DEMSM: "If you tell a big enough lie, frequently enough, it becomes the truth")
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To: cruise_missile; Roscoe Karns; Grampa Dave

If one could create an image on the web (I can’t).

1. Obama presidential seal replaces winged angel on column top.

2. Obama at base wearing a Prussian helmet ,


32 posted on 07/20/2008 1:32:32 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Kaslin
"The announcement that he will speak at the Victory Column, or Siegessaeule, ended weeks of speculation here. It also triggered criticism that the 226-foot column built in 1873 to celebrate Prussian war victories over Denmark, Austria and France was an inappropriate choice.

The reason it's 226 feet tall is because Hitler and the Nazis had a special affection for the monument, and increased the size of it to make it more grandiose.

But Obama likes grandiose.

Krauthammer nailed it when he said Obama's only accomplishments are the two books he wrote about his favorite subject ----himself.

33 posted on 07/20/2008 2:04:32 PM PDT by cookcounty (Obama reach across the aisle? He's so far to the left, he'll need a roadmap to FIND the aisle.)
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To: fzx12345

Ich bin ein kartoffelsalat!


34 posted on 07/20/2008 2:05:10 PM PDT by TigersEye (Drill or get off the Hill. ... call Nancy Pelosi @ 202 - 225 - 0100)
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To: cookcounty

With 300 foreign policy advisors, you’d think Obambi could avoid dopey mistakes like this. Maybe he needs 3,000 advisors.


35 posted on 07/20/2008 2:06:54 PM PDT by cookcounty (Obama reach across the aisle? He's so far to the left, he'll need a roadmap to FIND the aisle.)
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To: TigersEye

As Ron White would say: “Sie rufen mich ‘toffelsalat an”


36 posted on 07/20/2008 2:24:51 PM PDT by CDB ("Typical white person"--B. Hussein Obama, the "Magic Negro")
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To: Kaslin
Since German reunification, the column has become known as the central location for Berliners to party.

My wife tells me the victory column (Siegessaeule) is also the local gay pride symbol.

37 posted on 07/20/2008 2:31:33 PM PDT by jim-x (God help America survive its enemies within.)
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To: RightWhale
IMO its kinda cool looking from a distance, its columns made up of war booty, captured artillery etc. But up close it is ugly - its covered in graffiti. It does not appear to have been maintained at all.
38 posted on 07/20/2008 2:35:15 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: CDB
Get ready for the MSM news bombardment starting Monday. The military controls all American news that comes out of Iraq as far as military bases and personnel goes, so he doesn't have much of an opportunity to get any propaganda shots there. I saw that they did find one black service lady for him to eat next to, that way at least one person would be smiling with him in the photo. They were the only 2 you could see in the shot. Starting tomorrow let the propaganda machine to go into full swing!!!!
39 posted on 07/20/2008 2:38:00 PM PDT by cla62
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To: kcvl

Hopefully alot of Freepers will read and send to and educate their friends on the sheer immorality and disgusting character of this alleged nominee to the highest office in the land!


40 posted on 07/20/2008 2:43:47 PM PDT by NOBAMA in 08 (An Empty Suited Opportunist with No Redeeming Value!)
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To: econjack

Its at the very opposite end of the Boulevarde, more than 1 and 1/2 miles away, couldn’t get much further away from the gate, and the location is where everyone gets together, gets drunk and parties, hardly a location for a serious speaking venue. The Berlin Train Station or the Berlin City Dump would be a more significant Location:-P
I heard the City Pothole Commisar will be having a power dinner with Obie Thursday night.


41 posted on 07/20/2008 2:51:49 PM PDT by NOBAMA in 08 (An Empty Suited Opportunist with No Redeeming Value!)
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To: Shermy

3. Obama blown away after his dumboears get flapping in the wind generated by the hot gases blowing out of his obscenely huge mouth.


42 posted on 07/20/2008 3:00:40 PM PDT by NOBAMA in 08 (An Empty Suited Opportunist with No Redeeming Value!)
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To: Fresh Wind

Actually “Ich bin ein Berliner” means I am a citizen of Berlin. I just want to make that clear


43 posted on 07/20/2008 3:07:52 PM PDT by Kaslin (Vote Democrat if you like high gas prices at the pump)
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To: jim-x

No wonder Obie likes the location so much with his 24 hr/day
“Butler” especially if Larry Sinclair’s stories and allegations are validated further.


44 posted on 07/20/2008 3:09:34 PM PDT by NOBAMA in 08 (An Empty Suited Opportunist with No Redeeming Value!)
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To: Kaslin

He is so horrible, I wish they would tell him just stay out of Germany. Let his campaign come out with one of the lies why he has changed his mind about going to Germany. haha


45 posted on 07/20/2008 11:56:05 PM PDT by Katarina (I am the GOP's and least favorite Voter - I am a Conservative. Pray for our country.)
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To: Kaslin
at...
in front of...
near

"Ich bin ein arrogant knucklehead"

"Gen Patreus, tear down this victory"

46 posted on 07/21/2008 12:19:00 PM PDT by sanchmo
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To: Coffee200am
This is Obama’s “WORLD EXPERIENCE TOUR”

The goal is to have him shake a lot of hands, get a lot of photo opportunities and portray him more experienced and tied into foreign affairs. His arrogance to speak at the Brandenburg Gate as a senator, self inviting himself at that, is a testament to his actual ignorance of protocol on such issues. But no worries, the MSM will ignore this. Obama’s Hollywood's and the news media's man, he can do no wrong.

47 posted on 07/24/2008 6:41:44 AM PDT by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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