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Iran given two-week deadline to end the nuclear impasse
Gaurdian UK ^ | Sunday July 20, 2008 | Julian Borger in Geneva

Posted on 07/19/2008 5:21:33 PM PDT by Perdogg

Iran was given a fortnight to agree to freeze its uranium enrichment programme yesterday or face further international isolation.

After a day of inconclusive talks in Geneva, a six-nation negotiating team warned the Iranian delegation that it had run out of patience and demanded a 'yes or no' answer to a proposal it put forward five weeks ago.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


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1 posted on 07/19/2008 5:21:33 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: All

A Look at Iran
http://www.truthusa.com/IRAN.html


2 posted on 07/19/2008 5:31:13 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Perdogg

SCARY!


3 posted on 07/19/2008 5:32:29 PM PDT by REDWOOD99
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To: Perdogg

Oil back to $150 pronto.

I knew it was too good to be true.


4 posted on 07/19/2008 5:33:20 PM PDT by Deo volente
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To: Perdogg

5 posted on 07/19/2008 5:42:02 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.)
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To: Iron Munro

Today was the turning point for war. This is why the U.S. met with Iran. The green light was given today to bring this to an end. That happened when Iran said no.


6 posted on 07/19/2008 5:50:32 PM PDT by silentknight
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To: Perdogg
'They have been told this is your last meeting. We are not doing this again. Go back to Tehran and you have a week or two at most to give a yes or no,' one official said.

These guys are TOUGH! /s

7 posted on 07/19/2008 5:54:26 PM PDT by Just Lori (There is nothing democrat"ic" about democrats.)
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To: Perdogg

Two weeks ... and then what exactly?


8 posted on 07/19/2008 6:24:27 PM PDT by eclecticEel (men who believe deeply in something, even wrong, usually triumph over men who believe in nothing)
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To: Perdogg
Everyone was having a cow about Bush taking advise from Obama and meeting with Tehran (via Hot Air, Bush Hope and Change) This meeting was only COVER for what will come next. What this is exactly, I don't know. But I personally think that it was a calculated move to say, Hey we met, we talked, we warned them.
9 posted on 07/19/2008 6:32:07 PM PDT by georgiagirl_pam
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To: eclecticEel

Nothing. Imanutjob has learned from the past experience with Saddam in Iraq, he knows he can keep this up for at least another year or longer.


10 posted on 07/19/2008 6:40:29 PM PDT by RetSignman (DEMSM: "If you tell a big enough lie, frequently enough, it becomes the truth")
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To: georgiagirl_pam; eclecticEel

July 29th is the Lailat al Miraj. The festival celebrates the Prophet Muhammad’s journey from Mecca to Jerusalem in a single night. From Jerusalem he ascended into heaven, where he met the earlier prophets, and eventually God. Two years ago, intelligence officials worried that Iran might launch a nuclear attack on Israel. It is a week from Tuesday.


11 posted on 07/19/2008 6:42:50 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: eclecticEel

I will hold my breathe till I turn blue—THAT WILL REALLY SHOW YOU!!!!


12 posted on 07/19/2008 6:57:57 PM PDT by jesseam (Been there and done that!)
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To: eclecticEel

“Two weeks ... and then what exactly?”

Nothing.


13 posted on 07/19/2008 7:35:13 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: RetSignman

“Imanutjob has learned from the past experience with Saddam in Iraq, he knows he can keep this up for at least another year or longer.”

Exactly. And if — God forbid — Obambi wins the presidency, Iran will be home free, and everyone knows it.


14 posted on 07/19/2008 7:37:07 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: All

$5.50 a gallon gas here we come!


15 posted on 07/19/2008 7:50:49 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jul/20/iran.nuclear

In the next few days the European Union is due to approve new financial sanctions aimed at Tehran’s banking system. Those are likely to be followed by a fresh round of Security Council talks in September on stepping up international sanctions, although both Russia and China oppose radical measures.

The US and Britain have also raised the possibility of pursuing an embargo of Iran’s oil industry, including a block on imports of petrol and diesel. And the breakdown of talks is likely to strengthen the urgings of hawks in Israel for pre-emptive military action to halt Iran’s nuclear programme.


16 posted on 07/19/2008 8:33:47 PM PDT by silentknight
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To: Perdogg

War will happen. The question is whether or not Lebanon, Syria, and other countries stay out of it. Saudi Arabia will remain neutral and secretly root that Iran is brought to their knees. Egypt will condemn the actions of Israel but secretly hope for the success of the mission. Syria is the wild card.

War will come soon. Best we just get it over with.


17 posted on 07/19/2008 8:56:38 PM PDT by silentknight
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To: Perdogg
...a six-nation negotiating team warned the Iranian delegation that it had run out of patience and demanded a 'yes or no' answer to a proposal it put forward five weeks ago.

Until the next Photobucket warning.

18 posted on 07/19/2008 9:06:04 PM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Just Lori

And if you don’t we will taunt you yet again!


19 posted on 07/19/2008 9:09:59 PM PDT by saganite
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To: silentknight
Today was the turning point for war.

July 19, 2008

This is why the U.S. met with Iran.

Yes. It has nothing to do with obama's Vast Diplomatic Insights.

The green light was given today to bring this to an end.

Hold on to your seats, it's going to be a bumpy ride.

That happened when Iran said no.

Obviously, Iran learned nothing from the Gulf War, the Afghanistan War, and the Iraq War.

To borrow from The Godfather, "today is the Day when I deal with my enemies ~GWB

20 posted on 07/19/2008 10:21:38 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: Perdogg
"....one official said."

"Another Western source..."

Piffle...

The Guardian, the UK's premier leftist propaganda source.

21 posted on 07/19/2008 10:44:31 PM PDT by Earthdweller
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To: georgiagirl_pam
What they've done by meeting with Iran is proved the futility of negotiations with the mad mullahs on this issue. They've taken it to the defensible point where they can even say, “We did talk to them. They still refused to have a transparent program that'd assure the world.” What happens next? In the short term, more sanctions. In the longterm, probably an aerial onslaught unlike the world has ever seen that will destroy all of Iran's military infrastructure.
22 posted on 07/19/2008 11:42:51 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Obama denied that the surge would work and now denies that it has.)
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To: eclecticEel

Bush gave Israel the Amber Light
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2044690/posts


23 posted on 07/20/2008 12:05:37 AM PDT by LayoutGuru2 (Know the difference between honoring diversity and honoring perversity? No? You must be a liberal!)
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To: Perdogg
Iran's response...

Let us hope that someone with some Cajones gets this taken care of pronto!

24 posted on 07/20/2008 12:12:33 AM PDT by LayoutGuru2 (Know the difference between honoring diversity and honoring perversity? No? You must be a liberal!)
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To: silentknight

bttt


25 posted on 07/20/2008 12:29:37 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: Perdogg
Ya know, I keep thinking and thinking and thinking .... And I can't come up with a more inept, inconsequential, incompetent bunch of people than these Western negotiators. No matter how hard I try, I just can't seem to do it. Can someone help me out here?

I start with the Keystone Kops, but they look downright rocket surgeony compared to the negotiators. The three stooges look downright brainy and ballsy in comparison. I'm at a loss.

The Iranians have been playing these "negotiators" for fools for about 30 years now on one issue or another and they keep 2-weeking the West to death.

These "negotiators" don't seem to understand that while they're being played for fools, Iran plods along day by day on their work and one day, the "negotiators" are going to wake up to an Iranian fait accompli announcing their first nuclear test (with plenty of help from China, Pak, NK) and then what are these negotiators going to do?

It wasn't enough that Larinjani, the Iranian negotiator went on European TV laughing at this process, literally LAUGHING at these "negotiators" and their antics and a month later, the "negotiators" went back to the table and sat down talking with the Iranians like nothing had happened.

The only thing that these "negotiators" are "negotiating" is graves for a whole lot of infidels when the Islamic Republic finaly gets the bomb. RESTRAINT for infidels from the Mad Mullahs?????? Yeah, right!

These "negotiators" apparently have little to no idea of what a dangerous game they're playing. Maybe they do ... and just don't care.

26 posted on 07/20/2008 12:35:20 AM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Don't blame me - I voted for Fred and am STILL a FredHead and will write him in!)
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To: silentknight
Syria is the wild card.

I agree 100% with your post but would throw Russia into the mix of wild cards. They've been rattling some military sabers recently and an attack by Russia (Biblical nation of Gog) would fall right in line with end times prophesy. So would an attack by Syria whose capital city of Damascus suffers utter destruction in end times Biblical prophesy. The Isaiah 17 is the chapter, IIRC. Such prophesy could be fulfilled in a retaliatory strike by Israel in the form of a nuke strike against Damascus.

27 posted on 07/20/2008 3:49:19 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: eclecticEel
Two weeks ... and then what exactly?

Then they get put on "double secret probation".

28 posted on 07/20/2008 4:23:22 AM PDT by Clink (The more you complain, the longer God lets you live.)
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To: Perdogg
Under that offer, sponsored jointly by the US, Britain, France, Germany, Russia and China, Iran would not expand its uranium enrichment programme,

Which is it? End the programme or just maintain the status quo?

29 posted on 07/20/2008 4:26:55 AM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: happygrl; All
“Obviously, Iran learned nothing from the Gulf War, the Afghanistan War, and the Iraq War. “
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.............
LOL they learned plenty - on how “shock and awe “has turned into PC false war. Heck we prosecute the fighters who go out and kill the enemy -while allowing sanctuary for Iran and Syria and Pakistan tribal areas.
Bush made bold statements about siding with our enemies -
made a good start, then was neutered and turned into the
a sick joke of a man who has no plan to win - just not to lose while in office- Our bravest men are in battle while cowards rule the Pentagon and Washington.
Until we take out the leadership of axis of evil this WOT is becoming something evil - no win - endless - and
corrupting of the military. Wag the Dog fits very nicely now.
IMO Bush,McCain,Obuma will never attack Iran or syria or the snake pit in Pakistan.
30 posted on 07/20/2008 4:31:27 AM PDT by shadowgovernment (From the Ashes of a Republican rout will raise a Conservative Party)
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To: silentknight; Iron Munro; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Tennessean4Bush; elhombrelibre
Today was the turning point for war. This is why the U.S. met with Iran.

Uh-oh. Is the recent peace and calm we've had here about to end?

31 posted on 07/20/2008 5:01:00 AM PDT by Allegra (Ain't it grand? I'm back in the sand...)
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To: eclecticEel

Then the US will offer Iran a bribe at taxpayers’ expense.


32 posted on 07/20/2008 5:08:34 AM PDT by pleikumud
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To: Perdogg

>>>>>The festival celebrates the Prophet Muhammad’s journey from Mecca to Jerusalem in a single night. From Jerusalem he ascended into heaven, where he met the earlier prophets,<<<<<

If nothing else, the West should be protecting the historic sites of our civilization and Christendom from desecration by Muslims.

The last time they got their hands on the Christian Church Of The Nativity in Jerusalem, they turned it into an outhouse and basically trashed as much as they could.

IMO anything Mighty Mo is alleged to have done in Jerusalem is just one more ahistoric hallucination springing from his syphillis infections.


33 posted on 07/20/2008 5:46:45 AM PDT by angkor (Conservatism is not now and never has been a religious movement.)
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To: RetSignman

Yes, but how did that work out for Saddam?


34 posted on 07/20/2008 6:05:22 AM PDT by Bobarian (Green: It's the new Red.)
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To: Bobarian

Saddam who?


35 posted on 07/20/2008 6:07:28 AM PDT by Allegra (Ain't it grand? I'm back in the sand...)
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To: Bobarian

Not well, but Iran is running the clock out so he can finish his proven nuclear ambitions, Saddam Hussein was stalling because he didn’t want to be exposed to be weaker than his rhetoric even though he had the same ambitions.

Time is of the essence in the case of Iran.


36 posted on 07/20/2008 6:40:01 AM PDT by RetSignman (DEMSM: "If you tell a big enough lie, frequently enough, it becomes the truth")
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To: Perdogg


37 posted on 07/20/2008 6:55:00 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist -CTHULHU/NYARLATHOTEP'08 = Nothing LESS!!!)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

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38 posted on 07/20/2008 7:10:29 AM PDT by SJackson (I was introduced to dog meat (tough), snake meat (tougher), roasted grasshopper (crunchy), BH Obama)
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... Or we shall Taunt You Again!!! (sniff!)


39 posted on 07/20/2008 7:36:43 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: Perdogg

The 6 nations are US, Britain, France, Germany, Russia and China. Iran knowns it is not hard to play all the players against each other. China and Russia will try to obstruct and delay as much as possible. France and Germany don’t have the backbone to be tough. The US and Britain are busy in Iraq and Afghanistan. The only wildcard is Israel, which isn’t even at the talks.

If the EU really wants to put presure on Iran then Germany and France should start mobilizing their militaries for deployment to the Middle East. They should lead a EU force to scare the crap out of Iran.


40 posted on 07/20/2008 8:21:52 AM PDT by Tai_Chung
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To: ExSoldier

I keep saying the same thing. Russia will not sit idly by while Iran is attacked!

However, no one seems to be listening.


41 posted on 07/20/2008 8:31:18 AM PDT by Delmarksman (Pro 2A Anglican American (Ford and Chevy kill more people than guns do, lets ban them))
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To: Delmarksman

Russia is the key here. If you really want to know our intentions towards Iran then watch Russia.

When she starts putting her troops on alert and moving them south, while tightening her borders you will know we are moving against Iran.


42 posted on 07/20/2008 8:56:43 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Abathar

“When she starts putting her troops on alert and moving them south, while tightening her borders you will know we are moving against Iran.”

There should be no US move against Iran. Israel has plenty of her own resources for dealing with them...permanently.


43 posted on 07/20/2008 9:19:16 AM PDT by neutronsgalore (Nature, getting rid of Muslims one tsunami at a time.)
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To: Abathar

If this meeting was what it appears to be...i expect the next step is Sanctions, followed by startegic blaockaides and internal operations leading up to an Iranian offensive move that kicks off the mother of all battles...post november.


44 posted on 07/20/2008 9:25:30 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour; Deo volente; PGalt; george76; epow; smedley64; freema; StarCMC; ...
Please read the link to this post form Stars and Stripes, both links are below:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2048179/posts
http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=56237

Magical Michief and Deo, please take the time to read the above links and pass it on to others. The Soldiers of Chosen Co. deserve to get their story out for the world to know what happened July 13, 2008. That was the day when Al Qaeda/Taliban learned no matter where, no matter how outnumbered, Americans will never never give in, will never never give up. (On that day between 200-500 Al Qaeda/Taliban attacked a small FOB consisting of 45 Airborne Soldiers of the 173rd Airborne and 25 ANA. We lost 9 wonderful Soldiers and suffered 15 wounded.) Below is a snippet of the first hand account.

“Two hours after the first shots were fired, Stafford made his way — with help — to the medevac helicopter that arrived.

“It was some of the bravest stuff I’ve ever seen in my life, and I will never see it again because those guys,” Stafford said, then paused. “Normal humans wouldn’t do that. You’re not supposed to do that — getting up and firing back when everything around you is popping and whizzing and trees, branches coming down and sandbags exploding and RPGs coming in over your head … It was a fistfight then, and those guys held ’ em off.”

Stafford offered a guess as to why his fellow soldiers fought so hard.

“Just hardcoreness I guess,” he said. “Just guys kicking ass, basically. Just making sure that we look scary enough that you don’t want to come in and try to get us.”

God Bless each and every one of our Soldiers! For those we lost RIP.

Now, The Magical Mischief and Deo, what exactly were you saying about the price of gas (rhetorical question)? Iran is now THE HUB of terrorist activity in the world. They are about to go nuclear. And you are worried about the price of gas? Just wait until Iran tests its first nuclear device. Then what?

Every American should be demanding from their Congressman/Senators the right to use our own Natural Resources so that we, the people, are not beholden to outside forces during dark times. It is a shame that we here at home do not have the will to challenge our own government for our own resources. Instead we just sit around whine about the price of gas while good men are dying for us in far off lands. We should be ashamed.

45 posted on 07/20/2008 9:30:14 AM PDT by Chgogal (Voting "Present" 130 times might be a sign of a smart politician. It is not a sign of a good leader.)
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To: Perdogg

Up goes oil on Monday...


46 posted on 07/20/2008 11:31:47 AM PDT by Thunder90
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To: elhombrelibre
What happens next? In the short term, more sanctions. In the longterm, probably an aerial onslaught unlike the world has ever seen that will destroy all of Iran's military infrastructure.

And the largest ground campaign since 1991 and possibly World War II.

47 posted on 07/20/2008 11:35:12 AM PDT by Thunder90
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To: neutronsgalore
There should be no US move against Iran. Israel has plenty of her own resources for dealing with them...permanently.

I don't think so. We need to test our weapons and systems against what is there and have some target practice. And the F-22 needs some real combat testing :)

48 posted on 07/20/2008 11:38:34 AM PDT by Thunder90
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To: Perdogg

We all still need today’s equivalent to the late former General George S. Patton, just like we all also still need today’s equivalent to the late former President Ronald Reagan! Sadly, I truly don’t see anybody out there that meets these requirements.


49 posted on 07/20/2008 12:49:06 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (Vote for conservatives AT ALL POLITICAL LEVELS! Encourage all others to do the same on November 4!)
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To: Perdogg
Iran was given a fortnight to agree to freeze its uranium enrichment programme yesterday or face further international isolation.

What a joke.

50 posted on 07/20/2008 1:05:07 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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