She had access to the law.
She used fraud.
Such corruption would only be tolerated by one evil group.
Posted on 07/19/2008 10:11:13 AM PDT by MissouriConservative
An Alamance County librarian who has been in the U.S. illegally since she was 3 years old was arrested at her job by federal agents earlier this week.
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Martinez's husband, Marcos Miranda, said the two attended Cummings High School together. They married two years ago and have a 15-month-old son.
"I don't know ... maybe we do something wrong, but we only have to have a future for my son," Miranda said.
The criminal complaint filed against Martinez in U.S. District Court indicates the librarian was using a deceased person's Social Security number and was paying taxes on her vehicles
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A spokesperson for ICE said the agents are simply doing their jobs, which include enforcing the immigration laws that are on the books.
"We are not anti-immigration in this county whatsoever," said Jones. "But we're going to continue to be anti-criminal. I don't back away from that, I don't think any of us here do."
(Excerpt) Read more at myfoxwghp.com ...
Most libraries keep piling up late charges on overdue books. Buh-bye.
cry me a river - adios!!
Yeah, SEVERAL things wrong....
Yes, maybe you did something wrong.
There are a lot of similar stories out there but a little known clause can help some of folks like her...return to your country..file thru the US embassy to the proper channels and she may get residence in 6 months if everything is on the up and up.
Other than that I say throw em out!
Boo frikin’ hoo.
Sorry lady, you might have been 3 when you showed up, but you were an adult when you stole someone else’s identity. That’s against the law here....you know, the RULE OF LAW, which you ignored all your life.
Buh-bye now.
I wonder if she was aware of this or if this is something her parents stole for her when she was young and not aware of. If she knew it was stolen, we may need to slap a few fraud and identity theft charges on her before we send her out.
If she is a librarian this means she has at least a bachelor’s degree. Bet SHE didn’t pay for her education!
She’s using someone else’s ID and she doesn’t know if she did something wrong! And here since 3 months old and still speaks broken English!
She’s educated, employed and married before having a child. She’s done many things right, and I don’t blame her for not self-deporting if she was brought here at three.
So why on earth did she blow it by fraudulently using a dead person’s SS card?
This is in Alamance county, North Carolina, not Massachusetts.
this is the answer to the question often asked ‘there are 20 million of them - how are you going to deal with that?’
one at a time
goodbye mrs. martinez - don’t let the door hit you in the...
“She’s using someone else’s ID and she doesn’t know if she did something wrong! And here since 3 months old and still speaks broken English!”
And works for the government! Another job no American will do....???
I wonder if she was really a librarian or a paraprofessional? Professional librarians in this country have a masters degree. Did she go all the way thru college and grad school on this deceased person’s SSN? If so, I wonder if she also got federal aid to do so?
I’m all for deporting her ass back to Mexico, but maybe first we should be looking to see if she owes the feds any money.
I think it’s the husband who speaks broken English - ICE should be looking at him, too!
Stealing an SSAN? Two years in the Federal pen....then deportation.
I don’t understand one thing. What’s wrong with Mexico? Why can’t she, her husband and kid go live in Mexico? Considering the U.S.is such a mess- recession, poverty and global warming, wouldn’t she and her family be better off there? Deport her and, if Obama wins the election, she can apply to come back when he makes everything all right again.
And MLS graduates wonder why they can’t find any jobs...
Adios,Muchacha!
Indeed! The liberals act like sending someone back to Mexico is the most cruel punishment imaginable. But when the illegals come here and want to turn the US into the very place that it's cruel to send people back to...why, then we're told that the US turning into Mexico is a wonderful thing, and that they're only enriching us with their diversity!
I wonder if she will be charged the $250,000.00 fine for Social Security fraud?
It’s called the “path to citizenship”.
You’re right, liberals do make sending people back to Mexico sound horrible but, interesting enough, they never tell you why it’s such a bad place. No politician, liberal or conservative, will ever say Mexico is a rat hole filled with crime, corruption and gross incompetence. In Mexico city, they actually have separate commuter train cars for the sexes during rush hour because the men harass the women so much.
“In Mexico city, they actually have separate commuter train cars for the sexes during rush hour because the men harass the women so much.”
Lol, I think I owe you an apology for doubting you. Decided to Google. You’re right, no US politician’s talking about that out in public (if they even know):
“We’ve already covered numerous examples of women-only taxi services over the last year or so, and now the idea appears to be spreading to public transportation as well. In Mexico City, where millions of women bus riders have long endured groping and verbal abuse en route every day, a new, women-only bus service aims to create a safer and more comfortable ride.”
This one is about buses:
http://www.springwise.com/transportation/womenonly_bus_service/
It doesn’t matter. She should be charged with fraud, penalized and when having paid her debt to society, put on the first transportation to her native country.
This country has looked the other way at the identity theft part of illegal immigration for quite some time. The problem with that is- even if you think it is ok for a librarian to have bad documents; you have to know if illegals are allowed to get by with bad paper then what will keep terrorists from using the same system to get bad paper to be here to commit terrorist acts? I am sure they already have used the same network to get ID and are here in larger numbers than we want to know. That is why the illegal issue is always tied to national security issues, whether our politicians and pro open border people want to admit it or not.
If illegals can cross the border at will and get documents, there is nothing to stop terrorists from doing the same.
Illegal immigration is wrong on so many levels, but this part of illegal immigration is flat out dangerous for our entire country.
It actually does matter a lot in terms of how many taxpayer dollars we want to invest in going after her for the SSN fraud versus just going through the deportation process. If the SSN was stolen by her parents and provided to her when she was a child, all her life she didn’t realize it was stolen and believed it was her own, then there wasn’t criminal intent, therefore, the tens of thousands of additional dollars it would take to prosecute with this, on top of deporting her may be a waste.
If however, she was fully aware it was stolen, then it is worth going after her, even if the ‘victim’ of the theft is dead and suffered no personal loss. Identity theft is the unspoken crime in the illegal immigration debate. If this part comes to light more, I feel the tide will turn in how the average public feels.
Clarification on first paragraph, the cost of deporting isn’t a waste, the cost of prosecution for SSN Fraud may be if there was no awareness or criminal intent.
I don’t care about intent, whether she knew, any of that. The fact is that this kind a fraud is rampant and largely unprosecuted. She broke the law and she needs to be made an example. If it’s cheaper to ship her back than judge and incarcerate her, then okay. However, there are absolutely no sympathies residing here with ANY illegal or their plights.
This story is a good illustration of why amnesty is a bad idea. The Amnesty Act of 1986 applied to illegal immigrants who entered the US before January 1, 1982. It seems Ms. Martinez and her family entered the US about the time the act was passed, possibly believing that if the US granted amnesty once, we would do it again.
Amnesty for illegal immigrants does nothing to discourage illegal entry.
All I can say is take a trip down to your local SS office and see them and the hundreds of them filing for this and that. It will open your eyes.....
This is why we should deport as many through the quickest means necessary and save the fraud prosecution for the cases we know we can win and will make the greatest impact.
Now, reverse the math. Right now, from the day a prosecutor gets a case until it goes through the system and a verdict is brought to trial takes, on an average, 1.5 years. How long would it take to process all illegals through the system if we tried to take every fraud case to court?
These SS numbers that the illegals are using aren’t the cards the original owner used. When an illegal needs a SS#, he or she pays someone to furnish it. They pull a number out of the air, print it on a card that looks much like a valid SS card and away they go. The owner of that illegal card has no idea whether the number belongs to someone else or even if the number is valid. Whatever monies are withheld from their salaries are simply left in the treasury since they never apply for a refund. Whether we want to admit it or not, the U.S. makes at least part of their total outlay for supporting these illegals back in the form of unrefunded taxes.
Paying taxes on the deceases persons vehicles? She had to know it was a fake.
It is very easy to separate which payments against which number come from where and to compare against historical records. If anyone thinks SSA doesn't know this and tacitly overlooks he/she is smoking some pretty strong ganja IMO.
She HAD to know; she was paying the taxes on her (the deceased's) vehicles.
I just took it in a way that seemed grammatically logical from the sentence.
I thought that originally, but then I thought if she was going to go through all the trouble of stealing identity etc, why would she pay taxes on the vehicle. That’s why I read it the other way.
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