Posted on 07/19/2008 7:08:00 AM PDT by Fox_Mulder77
BERLIN (Reuters) - Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki told a German magazine he supported prospective U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama's proposal that U.S. troops should leave Iraq within 16 months.
In an interview with Der Spiegel released on Saturday, Maliki said he wanted U.S. troops to withdraw from Iraq as soon as possible.
"U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama talks about 16 months. That, we think, would be the right timeframe for a withdrawal, with the possibility of slight changes."
(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...
Wait and see: Obama is going to declare victory in Iraq, and say we need to withdraw now.
The media will give him credit for winning the war, and the far left will give him a hero’s welcome when he gets back from the region.
Surreal? Yeah. But we’re talking about the loony left and their desire to get power.
This is Maliki taking foolish advantage of a political situation, ingrateful idiot.
I wonder who is pulling Maliki’s strings now? Can you say “IMANUTJOB”??
Ahhhhh, so Obama has agreed to the same “time horizon” as President Bush (of COURSE with the possibility of *slight* changes)?
Typical political rhetoric. It all depends on what the meaning of the word "slight" is. I suspect what he's really saying is the probability of major changes.
How about ungrateful ingrate?
Its no joke though if he’s really prepared to undercut Bush to such an extent. If anything, it rinforces the suspicion that Obama really is Muslim and Maliki is doing his bit to get him elected.
Given the fact that the AP misrepresented Maliki’s prior remarks on this issue and never actually corrected it (the BBC did), I will wait until I have a source that is more credible.
This Iraq venture can all fall apart within a short time, simply because of the nature of the Iraqis and their monumental honor and face saving culture. I always think back to opinions illustrated is polls of the Iraqi people and interviews of individuals soon after Baghdad fell in 2003. They showed, over and over:
1. Iraqis were glad Sadddam was gone.
2. It was humiliating that Americans had to do it.
3. They thought American troops should leave ASAP.
Within that sort of thinking is room for the Iraqis to create, themselves, all sorts of disastrous outcomes for their country once American influence and control is removed.
If preserving some of their honor is more important than working with the Americans until they have firm control of their own security, then anything can happen after we leave and the US sacrifice will have been wasted.
And Obama is the perfect stooge to facilitate a disastrous outcome. It’s a perfect set-up for Al Qaeda and other terrorists to pull back some and regroup until the Americans depart.
The Iraqi nation is an ungrateful pile of dog sh!t. Foreign contracts, zero help at the pump, and now this. We should have flattened the whole damned place.
Obama wants the money for "Communism" aka reparations. WE MUST ALL BE EQUAL.....WITHOUT DOING EQUAL WORK.
Most of us only needed one 9/11 to understand the situation.
Can you give us some light on this?
You just know Maliki was asked leading questions and that those remarks were taken out of context.
I'm not defending Maliki; I just know how the scumbag media works.
Don’t forget Obama getting the Nobel Peace Prize..
He must be feeling pretty good to be handing out money in the streets and making these statements. Actually as long as he’s a faithful ally in the WOT and allows our forward deployment to be housed in his country, it’s all good. Iraq needs a cocky leader. In the end, this is about our security, nothing more, nothing less. Bush had a great 7 year run to get it turned in the right direction. Inertia is starting to take over.
Der Spiegel is pretty liberal and Reuters probably twisted the entire context.
And countless scoffers here who predict a McCain landslide, still refuse to believe that the Press still has the power to manipulate the outcome of Public opinion.
Mark my words, they will spin this around to their advantage and Obama will get the credit. This is also why he is on World tour, to give the impression how well the entire World will love us again with him in office.
We ain’t seen nuthin’ yet.
You may be right to do that. But I think this is the real deal. And it's the beginning of the Obama love-fest in the Middle East.
Typical dhim move, try and take credit for anything good despite the fact what ever they try never works, yet the sheeple will follow them over the cliff.
Typical dhim move, try and take credit for anything good despite the fact what ever they try never works, yet the sheeple will follow them over the cliff.
Let’s just go ahead and pull out now. The first ones to likely die will be the leaders like this idiot. Let them have a civil war. Let them die. Screw them.
Maliki did not say this. It was a mistranslation and the filthy commies have continued to lie about it.
Believe it or not you can find it on the BBC.
Maybe Israel will call out what Obama is really all about.
But all of those people who live and die by who does well on American Idol or Survivor will eat it right up without questioning it.
If the media says it, it has to be true, right?
Nah. Bush beat him to that. Obama will declare that nation building is complete and go on to get AQ and Bin Laden dead or alive. But if McCain is elected, he will say the same thing. No matter who is elected, it is 'out of there' by the midterm election of 2010 when the motto will be 'it's the economy stupid'.
LOL- what timing:) Thanks Allegra...
Frankly, I hope we can pull our troops within 16 months, at least out of the actual operations.
Obama wanted to pull troops 16 months from two YEARS ago, meaning he wanted them all out by March of 2008.
Now he’s only saying 16 months because he thinks that shows a measured pace of withdrawal (and it’s probably about as fast as we could reasonably pull the troops out and still keep the remaining ones safe).
At SOME point, Obama will be “right” about 16 months. It’s like waking up every morning and saying someone is going to die today. Eventually you will be right, but it doesn’t mean you have a clue.
I'm not so sure, Fox. But I value your opinion. So let's keep our eye on this and see which way it goes. If I were the PM of Iraq, I'd be hedging my bets given the fickleness of the American voter. When it came right down to it, what percentage of us believed that we had to see this through to success and that we could do that if the President didn't turn tail. Thank God he did not.
Hillary stated: It has been the policy of the Dem Party to take out Saddam. They wanted to claim this was their war from the beginning and the victory would be theirs.
AND THEY ALL VOTED FOR THE WAR.
In 1950, when the unstable and militarily weak S. Korea was invaded and occupied by Communist N. Korea, Truman sent our military back to S. Korea to free it.
Truman said he was merely sending our men to fight a "police action" against "bandits," but, in reality, 30,000 Americans died in Korea in the remaining 30 months of Truman's presidency.
Don't invest in Iraq
We should call Maliki's bluff, and order a strick 16-month withdraw timeline. (not really, but...).
Then, as the 16 month drop dead date gets closer, Maliki will start peeing his pants at the thought of the Iraqi's having to protect HIM without American help.
Perhaps it would teach him to never trust the likes of Obama and the Democratic fantasy machine.... ever again.
If this is a true quote, then I suspect most highly that Marxist Obama's operatives got to him.
The timing is especially "convenient", what with Marxist Obama's visit.
Could there be a few million $s and a villa in the south of France (the land of ingrates) for Mister Maliki?
This is a question for Marxsist Obama.
Here’s the Der Spiegel article/interview with Maliki. Sure enough on the second page Maliki throws Bush under the bus. SOB!
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,566852,00.html
That is a redundant phrase.
I guess I see it like this: whether Maliki said this or not, it’s what he believes. I think he believes this thing is over, and that Iraq is now in position to fully take care of themselves. Of coarse he wants enough of our troops around just in case he’s wrong, but each day that goes by gives him confidence in the idea that Iraq is self sufficient.
I get the feeling that Maliki and George Soros are soon to be golfing buddies.
Here's the full interview and on the second page Maliki does throw Bush under the bus.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,566852,00.html
Thanx so much for the link.
The Great Three-ring Travelling Medicine Show and All-faith Revival is about to start! Get in free with a Hadacol Boxtop!
You're welcome. I had to go find it, to see it, to believe it with my own eyes. I am speechless that Maliki would basically endorse Obama after all of the hard work of the Bush Administration. Just speechless...
No matter who says what at this point in time, there will still be at least 60,000 troops for at least the next 10 years.
Well, it's his neck hanging out there and not mine, so if that's what he sees, I hope he's right.
However, my point is thatthose who relied on the AP spent at least 2 days discussing and worrying over something he never said. For some time, the media dismissed Maliki as a non-entity. Now they hang on his ever "translated" word when they can spin it as supporting the position of the Obamasiah. I'm going to hold fire for now.
SPIEGEL: In your opinion, which factor has contributed most to bringing calm to the situation in the country?
Maliki: There are many factors, but I see them in the following order. First, there is the political rapprochement we have managed to achieve in central Iraq. This has enabled us, above all, to pull the plug on al-Qaida. Second, there is the progress being made by our security forces. Third, there is the deep sense of abhorrence with which the population has reacted to the atrocities of al-Qaida and the militias. Finally, of course, there is the economic recovery.
Hmmm . . haven’t you left something out, Mr. Maliki?
Like the U.S. Army?
Perhaps George Bush has indeed been played for a fool?
"Perhaps George Bush has indeed been played for a fool?"
I hate for you to be right, but sheeze... it's hard to not have that thought right now.
With oil selling at $140 a barrel, perhaps President Bush could ask Iraq for some foreign aid?
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