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Escondido tries to rid itself of undocumented immigrants
www.latimes.com ^ | July 13, 2008 | Anna Gorman

Posted on 07/12/2008 11:40:10 PM PDT by Checkers

Escondido city officials refuse to give up.

Two years ago, the city passed an ordinance to punish landlords for renting to illegal immigrants. But it rescinded the rental restriction after a legal challenge was filed and bills began to mount.

Now Escondido is trying a new approach to what it calls the "public nuisances" of illegal immigration, citing residents for code violations such as garage conversions, graffiti and junk cars.

The city is also debating a new ordinance that would restrict overnight street parking without a permit. In addition, it is drafting a policy that would prohibit drivers from picking up day laborers along some streets.

"We learned from the rental ordinance," Councilman Sam Abed said. "We changed our focus to quality of life issues."

Like many city leaders frustrated with the federal government, Escondido officials said they were taking immigration enforcement into their own hands. They said they were fighting the perception that Escondido, a city in affluent northern San Diego County with a burgeoning Latino population, has become a destination for illegal immigrants.

Councilman Ed Gallo said he regularly receives complaints from Escondido residents about illegal immigrants crowding schools, hospitals and neighborhoods.

"If you are not here legally, you don't belong here," Gallo said. "We're talking about image and appearance. . . . We are trying to change the image of Escondido."

The city's police department is also playing a role.

Police Chief Jim Maher said his department conducted two "criminal alien" sweeps this year. Officers identified illegal immigrants with criminal records who had been deported but then returned. In two separate sweeps, Escondido police arrested 31 illegal immigrants and turned them over to federal authorities for possible deportation.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: alien; aliens; amnesty; border; enforcement; escondido; godschildren; ice; iceicebaby; illegal; immigrant; immigrantlist; immigration; invasion; loudpeople; mccain; mccainlist; mexifornia; myfriend; myfriends

1 posted on 07/12/2008 11:40:10 PM PDT by Checkers
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To: Checkers

From the article:

“Tomas Moreno, who has lived in Escondido illegally for 20 years, said he listens to Spanish-language radio stations to find out whether and where any license checkpoints have been set up.”

What the ...?!


2 posted on 07/12/2008 11:45:36 PM PDT by Checkers (McCain: "Hillary Clinton would make a good President.")
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To: Checkers

Fox had an interesting spot on today about how there are lots of illegals returning to Mexico. They had on one woman who’d been here fourteen years (couldn’t speak English, of course) and whose three children were born here, but she and her husband were illegals and were returning to Mexico because (a) there are no day laborer jobs anymore; (b) the cost of living is increasing; and (c) the anti-illegal sentiment is frightening them. Tough.


3 posted on 07/12/2008 11:45:52 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: Checkers

Wow talk about 20 years too late. I got out of Escondido back in 1989 and even back then it was a mess with Illegals. Common was the car running alonside you at night with someone hopping out with a weapon shouting Dinero ! you couldn`t even get robbed in English there. I really hope they get it cleaned up withing the next couple of years so I can go serve in the wonderful Temple being built there.


4 posted on 07/12/2008 11:47:15 PM PDT by BhaktaSteve
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To: hsalaw

They’re all God’s Children my friend. /sarc


5 posted on 07/12/2008 11:48:46 PM PDT by Checkers (McCain: "Hillary Clinton would make a good President.")
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To: Checkers

Hey might as well give up...Obama wants us all to learn Spanish too...so we can be the same crap-hole Mexico is....


6 posted on 07/12/2008 11:54:48 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("If you’re drawing flak, you know you're over the target".)
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To: Checkers
The Federal Government = FAIL!

It's funny to see Obama and McCain fighting to be in charge of it.

7 posted on 07/13/2008 12:01:36 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Islam: Imagine a clown car.........with guns.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Re: The Just Say No to Juan McCain Ping List.


8 posted on 07/13/2008 12:03:45 AM PDT by Checkers (McCain: "Hillary Clinton would make a good President.")
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To: hsalaw
illegals and were returning to Mexico because (a) there are no day laborer jobs anymore

Been to Home Depot lately?

9 posted on 07/13/2008 12:24:44 AM PDT by South40
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To: South40

That’s what the illegals on the Fox segment were claiming. I report; you decide.


10 posted on 07/13/2008 12:39:18 AM PDT by hsalaw
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To: Checkers

Obviously the cops need to monitor those radio stations and mobilize their checkpoints - move them around during the day and night.

And they better make sure there are no moles inside the police department.


11 posted on 07/13/2008 12:43:13 AM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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To: hsalaw

Oh, boo-hoo to that woman!

The truth is the Mexican economy is ripping along at a 14-13% annual growth rate. They’re going home because the value of the dollar has dropped, jobs south of the border are plentiful, times are better at home and all without being hassled by our Federales.


12 posted on 07/13/2008 12:48:26 AM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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To: Checkers; All

I left in ‘91 and moved HOME,,,

It was over-run then,,,

The “Beautiful Hidden Valley” was a sad place then,,,:0/


13 posted on 07/13/2008 12:52:41 AM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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Even Cartman hires Mexicans
14 posted on 07/13/2008 12:58:16 AM PDT by Pylon (Remember boys, flies spread disease, so keep yours closed.)
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To: hsalaw
They had on one woman who’d been here fourteen years (couldn’t speak English, of course)

Wonder if she could say "Merci Beaucoup?"

15 posted on 07/13/2008 1:36:28 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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To: Checkers

Who is the Congressperson for that district? What the hell are THEY doing? What is their voting record on immigration? If not in support of the people of Escondido, one of these councilmembers should against that Congressperson and kick them out— if they are not doing their job.


16 posted on 07/13/2008 2:21:08 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (No Matter HOW Liberal/Socialist Scarface's WHITE HOUSE Becomes There Won't Be A Single "FREEP" Of It)
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To: Checkers

bump


17 posted on 07/13/2008 2:24:05 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Accepting the REALITY & trying to reverse America's slow global economic decline, is true patriotism)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
It's funny to see Obama and McCain fighting to be in charge of it.

It's pathetic.
18 posted on 07/13/2008 4:20:52 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: BhaktaSteve

I hear ya! My in-laws used to live in Escondido about 20 years ago. My FIL liked to drive these humongous Buicks that you could probably fit 10 illegals in the trunk if you were so inclined. He was always getting pulled over by the highway patrol.


19 posted on 07/13/2008 5:49:24 AM PDT by Andy'smom
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To: Man50D

Ya. Now that I’m sober, that’s a better word.


20 posted on 07/13/2008 6:55:23 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Islam: Imagine a clown car.........with guns.)
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To: Checkers

btt


21 posted on 07/13/2008 6:55:42 AM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Checkers

I had no idea there were any illegals in Escondido. I thought the whole place was one giant cookie cutter subdivision. The result will be more illegals in National City. I can’t blame them for going after public nuisance issues. Those are things all cities should be doing all the time.


22 posted on 07/13/2008 6:56:20 AM PDT by MovementConservative (John Roberts and Sam Alito.... Thank you GWB)
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To: BhaktaSteve

“Common was the car running alonside you at night with someone hopping out with a weapon shouting Dinero ! you couldn`t even get robbed in English there.”

If that wasn’t so freakin’ sad, it would be funny.


23 posted on 07/13/2008 7:03:18 AM PDT by AuntB (Vote Obama! ..........Because ya can't blame 'the man' when you are the 'man'.... Wanda Sikes)
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To: Checkers
They’re all God’s Children my friend. /sarc

They absolutely are you inappropriate clod. They don't belong here though.

24 posted on 07/13/2008 7:05:31 AM PDT by MovementConservative (John Roberts and Sam Alito.... Thank you GWB)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Who is the Congressperson for that district? What the hell are THEY doing? What is their voting record on immigration? If not in support of the people of Escondido, one of these councilmembers should against that Congressperson and kick them out— if they are not doing their job.

We need to get the whole lot of them out.....

25 posted on 07/13/2008 7:07:18 AM PDT by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

That might be Mr. Duncan Hunter...But I stand to be corrected...

I was stationed in San Diego in the 80’s, and the illegals were not that much of a problem even though they were somewhat of a known factor in tha area...

But at the time it was mostly a transient issue as far as most of the illegals didn’t hang around too long in the San Diego area...They pressed north and east obviously to areas outside of California thinking the enforcement efforts were not as prevalent in other parts of the country...

Now obviously it is not just a border states problem anymore...

Long story short, I was at a shipmates house down in Imperial Beach (right on the border) and we were in his (fenced) backyard BBQ’ing with his family and a few other folks we served with at the time, and just as the sun was poking down on the horizon we heard a lot of street traffic screaming around the nieghborhood...

Next thing we know, three less that legal in this country humpers, jumped over the fence into our little party...No habla, but they sure got the idea that this was the wrong yard to try and hide in...

We held them for the La Migre who were still running around in the nieghborhood...I’m sure as soon as they were shown the door (gate) down in Tijuana, they weer back on the wire (border) the next afternoon waiting to jump off again...

Needless to say I bet the word got out about the backyard where they met all of us...

What’s sad is the problem seems to just go somewhere else...But the traffic is still coming in...And no one has the political courage to stop it...

On both sides of the aisle...


26 posted on 07/13/2008 7:17:54 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: Checkers

There’s more they can do. If illegals gather in a particular area for day jobs, make the parking in that area 2 hours or less and tow cars that are parked too long. If the illegals are using public transportation to get to the area, move the bus stops away from their hangout and make them walk. Post officers at the site to issue tickets for littering, public urination, and other violations common to these sites. Cite drivers who stop to pick up the illegals for violations such as double parking, obstructing the flow of traffic, etc.. Existing law gives them plenty of power to address the problem.


27 posted on 07/13/2008 9:13:40 AM PDT by Redcloak ("Yes, I have been drinking. Why do you ask?" #1 on the list of "Things heard from McCain voters")
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To: Checkers

Riot Act

Let the citizens police their town for a little while. Nothing says “GET OUT NOW” like a town’s armed citizenry having the leash taken off.


28 posted on 07/13/2008 9:15:04 AM PDT by wastedyears (Obama is a Texas Post Turtle.)
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To: stevie_d_64
What’s sad is the problem seems to just go somewhere else...But the traffic is still coming in...And no one has the political courage to stop it... On both sides of the aisle...

That's the truth....

29 posted on 07/13/2008 12:00:28 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("If you’re drawing flak, you know you're over the target".)
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To: stevie_d_64
But the traffic is still coming in...And no one has the political courage to stop it...

On both sides of the aisle...

It's not about courage, it's about will. Our politicians are willfully accepting tens of millions of lawbreakers to trespass and remain here for a shot at their voting block. That's not lack of courage, that's an outright cynical calculation for the retention of political power, regardless of the costs to the nation they presumably serve to represent.

30 posted on 07/13/2008 12:07:41 PM PDT by TADSLOS (49 Days and a Wakeup for the GOP to use the Nuclear Option.)
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To: South40

I went by the Home Depot in Van Nuys about a month ago....there must have been 100 bored hombres out front. I took a video of it


31 posted on 07/13/2008 12:55:49 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: stevie_d_64

A photo from the article

32 posted on 07/13/2008 12:57:09 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl

They sure have nice cars for being "undocumented"!

33 posted on 07/13/2008 12:59:03 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl
Toyota Tundras are for Mexicans with a little dough what Escalades are for Soprano-wannabes Italian Americans and the Lexus RX series is for nouveau riche Indian immigrants around these parts.

"Ethnics" are causing global warming!

34 posted on 07/13/2008 1:04:00 PM PDT by Clemenza (We are a REPUBLIC, not a "Will of the People" Mobocracy)
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To: BurbankKarl

They managed to keep them from gathering in front of a HD here in San Diego only to see them gather across the street in front of a car dealership. The dealer was successful in getting them moved from in front of his dealership just so they could congregate in front of a furniture store about 1/2 block away. The back of the store faces the street so they do not block the entrance. While this seems to be acceptable to the powers that be I wrote the furniture store and told them I shop at their competitor’s because I refuse to spend my money at an establishment who allows this on their property. They never responded.


35 posted on 07/13/2008 1:06:21 PM PDT by South40
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To: AmericanInTokyo; stevie_d_64
Who is the Congressperson for that district?

Brian Bilbray

36 posted on 07/13/2008 9:27:38 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

Thanks. My impression is that he is “good”.


37 posted on 07/13/2008 11:02:13 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Accepting the REALITY & trying to reverse America's slow global economic decline, is true patriotism)
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To: Checkers

bump


38 posted on 07/13/2008 11:11:45 PM PDT by VOA
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To: wastedyears
Let the citizens police their town for a little while.
Nothing says “GET OUT NOW” like a town’s armed citizenry
having the leash taken off.


SSSHHHH!!!

Just in case there is the need for an undetected vigilante force
to clean up the mess.

I've always wondered about how many nice, peaceful towns are
the result of pro-active AND covert action against the pukes that
usually would get a lawyer and a multi-million dollar harassement
settlement if the legitimate law enforcement tried to take care
of the mess.
39 posted on 07/13/2008 11:17:30 PM PDT by VOA
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To: VOA

Only thing I could say is send Sheriff Joe (Maricopa County-AZ) an e-mail.


40 posted on 07/13/2008 11:26:42 PM PDT by wastedyears (Obama is a Texas Post Turtle.)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


41 posted on 07/13/2008 11:52:32 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: Checkers

I ain’t a bank robber.
I’m just an undocumented account holder.


42 posted on 07/14/2008 1:57:46 AM PDT by djf (Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. Those who can't teach get elected.)
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To: calcowgirl

Thanks...I stand corrected...


43 posted on 07/14/2008 10:22:48 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: BurbankKarl

I have all sorts of ideas on how to “caption” this picture...

I feel my doing so will put me into high gear on that highway to hell...;-)


44 posted on 07/14/2008 3:33:58 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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