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Windows update leaves thousands unable to get online
telegraph ^ | Last Updated: 4:01pm BST 10/07/2008 | By Claudine Beaumont, Digital Channel Editor

Posted on 07/12/2008 4:16:45 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative

A software update for the Windows operating system has left hundreds and thousands of computer users unable to access the internet.

The update, known as a "patch", conflicts with another piece of software, the Zone Alarms firewall, that many people use to protect their computers from hackers and viruses.

The patch, codenamed MS08-037, was designed to fix a security loophole in the way Windows handles website addresses. It was discovered that there was a weakness with the operating system that could allow hackers to re-route legitimate web pages to malicious websites instead, and leave internet users open to fraud and viruses.

But the fix proved incompatible with the ZoneAlarm firewall, and within hours of downloading the software update, users were reporting problems with their internet connections. The problem affected thousands of computer users who use the free Zone Alarms firewall to protect their machines.

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ZoneLabs, the company that makes ZoneAlarms, was last night recommending that computer users affected by the technical glitch uninstall the conflicting software update until a more permanent solution could be found. Computer users will be able to identify the rogue patch by its serial number, KB951748.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: internet; malware; marines; microsoft; msn; oops; spyware; windows; windowsupdate; windoze; zonealarm
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I had to excerpt the article, but I kept the most essential information.

I have had two computers affected by this hot fix. After removing the hot fix, I turned off automatic updates, because it will recognize that this update is not applied and will suggest that you install it.

1 posted on 07/12/2008 4:16:46 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Paleo Conservative

These jerks at Zone recently removed bridge from there gaming network, this latest move certainly doesn’t surprise me!


2 posted on 07/12/2008 4:20:11 PM PDT by gorush (Exterminate the Moops!)
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To: Paleo Conservative

These jerks at Zone recently removed bridge from their gaming network, this latest move certainly doesn’t surprise me!


3 posted on 07/12/2008 4:21:22 PM PDT by gorush (Exterminate the Moops!)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Zone Alarm sucks, I use Vista’s built in firewall and my router’s, works perfectly fine.


4 posted on 07/12/2008 4:23:18 PM PDT by aft_lizard (One animal actually its eats its own brains to conserve energy, we call them liberals.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

This happened to me. I shut off ZoneAlarm, downloaded an updated version of it, installed it, and all was back to normal. What I’d like to know is if Microsoft knew about this problem before they released the update and didn’t bother to let us know. It’s hard to believe that they wouldn’t have tested it with a popular firewall like ZoneAlarm.


5 posted on 07/12/2008 4:24:06 PM PDT by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: Paleo Conservative

That’s interesting. My Firefox browser stopped connecting to the internet so I switched back to Netscape 9, which seems to work fine. I am using Zone Alarm Pro and I went into the control panel to check to see if ZA was blocking Firefox but didn’t see any evidence of it.

I thought I had the automatic updates blocked; they always seem to cause problems for me. How can I find his update and get rid of it, if it is in fact installed?


6 posted on 07/12/2008 4:25:27 PM PDT by Chuckster ("Them ragheads just ain't rational" Curley Bartley, 1980)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Zonelabs fixed this the day after it happened.

http://www.zonealarm.com/store/content/company/products/znalm/freeDownload.jsp


7 posted on 07/12/2008 4:25:50 PM PDT by RingerSIX
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To: Paleo Conservative
Here's a link to the instructions on Zone Alarm's website on how to work around this problem.

http://download.zonealarm.com/bin/free/pressReleases/2008/LossOfInternetAccessIssue.html

8 posted on 07/12/2008 4:27:31 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Drill Here. Drill Now. Pay Less.)
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To: aft_lizard
Zone Alarm sucks, I use Vista’s built in firewall

Yea, that's going to work really well for folks with XP.

9 posted on 07/12/2008 4:30:17 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: RingerSIX
Zonelabs fixed this the day after it happened.

Which for the "mundane" may have been impossible to download since they couldn't get online... ;-)

10 posted on 07/12/2008 4:31:38 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Paleo Conservative

I stopped using Zone Alarm some time ago.


11 posted on 07/12/2008 4:32:59 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Paleo Conservative

I have Windows Vista and I haven’t had any problems getting on the internet. I think the system installed updates just yesterday, so I don’t know if this update was included in it or not. I’m not that computer savvy to know what you all are talking about, so I hope that they’ve fixed the problem.


12 posted on 07/12/2008 4:36:22 PM PDT by murron (Proud Marine Mom)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Uninstall the hotfix

1. Click the “Start Menu”
2. Click “Control Panel”, or click “Settings” then “Control Panel”
3. Click on “Add or Remove Programs”
4. On the top of the add/remove programs dialog box, you should see a checkbox that says “show updates”. Select this checkbox
5. Scroll down until you see “Security update for Windows (KB951748)”
6. Click “Remove” to uninstall the hotfix


13 posted on 07/12/2008 4:37:08 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Paleo Conservative

Don’t want to be affected by Microsoft updates? Wait for the problems to appear!


14 posted on 07/12/2008 4:37:22 PM PDT by rocksblues (Folks we are in trouble, "Mark Levin" 03/26/08)
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To: Paleo Conservative

On the bright side, those who can’t go online are super secure from virii and malware.


15 posted on 07/12/2008 4:37:43 PM PDT by Darksheare (Why do they call it Salad Dressing when clothes aren't in any way involved?)
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To: Knitebane; wireplay

Irony ping.


16 posted on 07/12/2008 4:38:17 PM PDT by Fichori (Primitive goat herder, Among those who kneel before a man; Standing.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
THIS IS NOT A WINDOWS PROBLEM!

This is a crappy Zone Alarm problem! Get rid of that and use a real hardware firewall!

17 posted on 07/12/2008 4:41:16 PM PDT by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: PAR35

Yup.


18 posted on 07/12/2008 4:41:36 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Paleo Conservative
I encountered this problem. It took me two days of fiddling to clean the mess up. I went into Zone Alarms' Program Control module, clicked the Programs tab, and the deleted all Windows Malicious Software Removal programs of any date. Also took the opportunity to clean out some older duplicates and junk that ZA no longer needs to monitor. Presto. Problem fixed.
19 posted on 07/12/2008 4:45:36 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Only a selfish, idiotic coward thinks the way to win in politics is for his own side to lose.)
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To: facedown
Well, I'll be switched - 18 posts already, and no Linux purists have jumped into the fray yet. Amazing.


20 posted on 07/12/2008 4:46:45 PM PDT by Viking2002 (Barak Obama is as inept as a bear cub with his dink.)
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To: PAR35

bttt


21 posted on 07/12/2008 4:52:13 PM PDT by GOPJ (When your ideology makes no sense it costs more to sell. Freeper ArmstedFragg)
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To: PAR35

Or, uninstall Zonealarm.


22 posted on 07/12/2008 5:00:23 PM PDT by Ingtar (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery. - ejonesie22)
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To: DeLaine

Should you ever manage to get back on line ping.


23 posted on 07/12/2008 5:01:13 PM PDT by null and void (Do/'08)
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To: pnh102
THIS IS NOT A WINDOWS PROBLEM!

That depends on whether Microsoft allows ZoneAlarm to have early access to patches for testing purposes before the public release. And for popular software like ZoneAlarm, it's arguable that Microsoft should test all of their patches for compatibility.

We do agree that the hardware firewall is a better solution.

24 posted on 07/12/2008 5:05:41 PM PDT by HAL9000 ("No one made you run for president, girl."- Bill Clinton)
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To: aft_lizard

[Zone Alarm sucks,]

I dumped ZA years ago as it seemed to grab my computer and turn into a virus, almost as bad as the famous Norton Virus.


25 posted on 07/12/2008 5:06:34 PM PDT by dbacks (Taglines for sale or rent.)
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To: Viking2002

[Well, I’ll be switched - 18 posts already, and no Linux purists have jumped into the fray yet. Amazing. ]

And no MAC attackers. I guess they are all busy justifying the horrible fouled up IPODII Phone.


26 posted on 07/12/2008 5:10:44 PM PDT by dbacks (Taglines for sale or rent.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

This is MS’ new security feature. If you can’t get to the net, you can’t get a virus, trojan or any other MTD (Microsoft Transmitted Disease) on your system.


27 posted on 07/12/2008 5:13:15 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: John Jorsett
It’s hard to believe that they wouldn’t have tested it with a popular firewall like ZoneAlarm.

Is it?

28 posted on 07/12/2008 5:18:14 PM PDT by null and void (Do/'08)
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To: Viking2002
Well, I'll be switched - 18 posts already, and no Linux purists have jumped into the fray yet. Amazing.

Actually we don't have have to spend our Saturdays fixing Windows problems. I just got back from the river, myself.

29 posted on 07/12/2008 5:19:38 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurtureĀ™)
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To: Paleo Conservative; Constitutionalist Conservative
I found a thread from July 9 about this problem.

Micosoft Update KB951748 (WinXP) kills ZoneAlarm Firewall
ZoneAlarm forum ^ | July 9, 2008 | ZoneAlarm forum moderator
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2043045/posts Posted on 7/9/2008 12:29:36 PM by Constitutionalist Conservative

30 posted on 07/12/2008 5:25:24 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Drill Here. Drill Now. Pay Less.)
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To: Ingtar
Or, uninstall Zonealarm.

No, that would just be rewarding Microsoft for their malfeasance.

31 posted on 07/12/2008 5:25:32 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: coconutt2000

>>Which for the “mundane” may have been impossible to download since they couldn’t get online... ;-)

Yes, good point. I was in the same boat but I had the luxury of having other computers on my network that I verified were able to get on the net. So I knew it was my PC. And I also knew that it was right after “Patch Tuesday” when it happened, so I was pretty sure that it was the MS patch that broke it.

I looked in the ZoneAlarm logs and watched it blocking my attempts at hitting the net, so I knew pretty quickly what it was. I uninstalled ZoneAlarm and was back on the net in a few minutes.


32 posted on 07/12/2008 5:30:33 PM PDT by RingerSIX
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To: John Jorsett
It’s hard to believe that they wouldn’t have tested it with a popular firewall like ZoneAlarm.

Aren't you familiar with the old slogan, "DOS isn't done until Lotus won't run".

33 posted on 07/12/2008 5:32:15 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Eaker

Looks like you weren’t the only one this happened to.


34 posted on 07/12/2008 5:33:22 PM PDT by TheMom (My baby just graduated from High School - send money for college!)
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To: PAR35; aft_lizard; shield; murron; pnh102; Ingtar; HAL9000; dbacks; AFreeBird; steve86
No, that would just be rewarding Microsoft for their malfeasance.

Plus Windows 2000 does not have a built in firewall. There are plenty of perfectly good computers that have Windows 2000 installed but don't have enough computing power to run XP. Zone Alarm runs on Windows 2000 and has a free version available.

35 posted on 07/12/2008 5:35:07 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Drill Here. Drill Now. Pay Less.)
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To: Ingtar
Or, uninstall Zonealarm.

It took me about a week to get rid of ZA a couple of years ago. Never will I install it on my PC again.

36 posted on 07/12/2008 5:36:39 PM PDT by my right
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To: Paleo Conservative

Well, I’ve installed my last Windows update, and this is my last Windows-based computer. I’ve read and seen enough about Vista, XP service pack 3, and the damage caused to working systems by various “critical” updates to know that Microsoft at the very least doesn’t care about serving their customers, or possibly actively wishes to harm them.

I’m not sure whether my next computer will be Apple or Linux, but I know it won’t have Windows on it.


37 posted on 07/12/2008 5:51:46 PM PDT by tvdog12345
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To: Paleo Conservative

Well, NSDT!

While downloading Windows Updates several days ago, my PC suddenly died—have been unable to start it again.

Here’s my chance to help the economy again—my pc was all of 30 months old—buying a new one is the least I can do!


38 posted on 07/12/2008 5:52:56 PM PDT by gunnyg
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To: Paleo Conservative
I run Windows Vista SP 1 on two of my computers so the issue hasn't affected me. I have Zone Alarm Internet Security Suite installed on both of them. No Internet connectivity issues with my broadband router thus far.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

39 posted on 07/12/2008 5:58:12 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Paleo Conservative

I don’t have Zone Alarm, but something sure has been wrong the last two days—either the I cannot connect to the internet, or I get booted off repeatedly.

Does Zaspersky have the same issues with the firewall?


40 posted on 07/12/2008 5:58:42 PM PDT by madison10
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To: madison10

Make that Kaspersky...little dislexic there.


41 posted on 07/12/2008 6:02:00 PM PDT by madison10
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To: Paleo Conservative
uninstall the conflicting software update until a more permanent solution could be found

As soon as I realized that it was Zone Alarm that was preventing me from getting on the internet, I downloaded Comodo Frewall, uninstalled Zone Alarm, installed Comodo, and, I was up and running again with the internet.

Easy fix!
42 posted on 07/12/2008 6:03:27 PM PDT by adorno
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To: Paleo Conservative

I can’t read this article—I can’t get online.


43 posted on 07/12/2008 6:16:43 PM PDT by Carl LaFong (Building Code Under Fire)
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To: Paleo Conservative
As has been reported previously Zone Alarm has offered a download to fix this problem.

Otherwise Zone Alarm is a damned good firewall program.

With the way Windoze work you never know what conflicts your going to have as everything is so top secret.

44 posted on 07/12/2008 6:42:42 PM PDT by puppypusher (The world is going to the dogs.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

I don’t use Windows firewall...I use AVG 8.0. I used Zone Alarm with XP on my desk top computer then I started using Vista when I bought my laptop...I couldn’t load Zone Alarm. So I bought AVG 8.0 and I like it a lot. It is a virus and firewall program.


45 posted on 07/12/2008 6:46:26 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: null and void

I’ve been online, via my APPLE MINI!!!!!!!!


46 posted on 07/12/2008 7:01:35 PM PDT by DeLaine (Lord, let me be the kind of person my dog thinks I am)
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To: Paleo Conservative
I had the same problem on two laptops. I went to Windows Update, Manual ... and hid KB951748. As well as MSIE 7 on the XP laptops.

I bought Zone Alarm Internet Security Suite several years ago and have run it on XP Pro desktop, XP Home laptops, Vista Media Center laptop and now a Vista Home Premium desktop. The only problem I ever encountered was this update on my XP laptops. ZA ISS has been a good firewall and virus program ... stand out perfect compared to Norton's and McAfee which I previously used and discarded to the waste bin as problem apps.

The problem in this world is Bill Gates and Microsoft putting out broken operating systems and making purchasers, at premium prices, be their beta testers for years at a time. Not only control freaks but also monopolists. Bell Telephone never needed breaking up it gave real service and products to customers ... Microsoft needs broken apart, it is a true monopoly, as a provider of broken products, broken promises and poor service to customers.

When my last graduates high school in two years this house will use a real OS on the desktop to operate a whole house wireless system - Linux.
47 posted on 07/12/2008 7:22:11 PM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: gunnyg
Here’s my chance to help the economy again—my pc was all of 30 months old—buying a new one is the least I can do!

Going to get another windoze system, or have you finally learned?

48 posted on 07/12/2008 7:28:46 PM PDT by null and void (Do/'08)
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To: Paleo Conservative

MAC is the only way to go!


49 posted on 07/12/2008 8:04:15 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U
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To: Paleo Conservative; All
Shalom & Blessings!

I am using Vista Home Premium, and I need some help with a few problems my Dell Note Book is having.

My computer is having difficulties shutting down properly after the Updates finish downloading.

What can I do to prevent this from happening?

And another issue is that is driving us crazy is: The arrow/ cursor jumps all over the place when typing on this screen or an e-mail, how can we stop this as well?

Thanking You In Advance For Your Help.

Simcha7...(I have been away from FR for a Long time due to severe health issues.)

50 posted on 07/12/2008 8:45:40 PM PDT by Simcha7 ((The Plumb - Line has been Drawn, T'shuvah/Return for The Kingdom of HaShem is at hand!))
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