Generalisimo Ray Nagin isn't going to like that (and YES he gave himself all of those medals).
Posted on 07/10/2008 1:07:07 PM PDT by mnehring
Since the start of the presidential campaign in the USA, greatest differences between the Republicans and the Democrats could be seen in their views towards war in Iraq.
The primaries are over and John McCain and Barack Obama remain as the pivotal rivals, one of which will head the country in the next four years.
Republican John McCain is a famous Vietnam War veteran and has been an eager supporter of war in Iraq even before the US Army invaded the country. On the other hand, Democrat Barack Obama opposes war, he has done so from the very start and recently advocated momentary withdrawal of troops from Iraq.
However, analysis of the electoral commission has shown that Obama received over 327,000 dollars of donations from those who declared themselves as army officers, while they gave McCain only 224,000 dollars.
McCain still has supporters in the army
Polls show that the Republican is still in the lead in relation to the Democrat when it comes to the number of supporters who are in the army or are veterans: 49 versus 32 percent.
A question is raised: What exactly influences the army`s decision while choosing its future president? On one hand, there are those who wait to come home from Iraq as soon as possible, where over 4 million of young lives were lost and 12 billion dollars were spent, while on the other, there are people who believe the invasion has yielded success.
Meanwhile, not even Obama sticks to his positions. He recently said Americans need to remain cautious when it comes to withdrawing troops from the two battlefields, Iraq and Afghanistan. This would mean that he leaves more room to all options. Many fear the senator advocated anti-war views just to beat Hillary Clinton in the primaries (she advocated the invasion, but has changed her mind later), while supporters hope he has changed his mind to gain the trust of Republican voters.
Obama requested greater sanctions for Iran
Obama announced his visit to Iraq, which has surprised both camps, the Republicans, as well as the Democrats. Despite all, the Democrat denies he is coming closer to the centre.
Among other things, the Democrat hopeful has requested greater sanctions for Iran, because he holds this country a threat due to long-range missile testing.
The change Obama has been announcing since the start of his campaign has given hope to the American people, even though many wonder now what sort of changes are in question exactly.
Return of troops from Iraq questioned
Liberal Ron Paul, famous for his views which differ from American policies so far, criticised Obama on once occasion, saying a candidate has never made it clear what sort of changes he was talking about and that the campaign`s slogan was just an empty word lacking meaning.
What objectives exactly make soldiers give money donations to Obama and will the Democrat return to his anti-war views which he has been advocating since 2002, time will tell after the elections in November. It will be clear then if young men and women fighting in another man`s country will come home.
Are there dates for the survey? Obama’s donations have been going down every month since February, while McCain’s have been going up.
It will be the votes that count come election day.
I wonder how many San Fran dish washers were on the list
There are alot of African American military men and women and they will vote Obama.
"Who declared themselves" "officers".
What about the underclass?
And what is there to verify their claims? We've seen phony soldiers attesting to "war crimes" they witnessed when they never even SERVED in the military.
“Republican John McCain is a famous Vietnam War veteran and has been an eager supporter of war in Iraq even before the US Army invaded the country.”
Yeah...RIIIIIGHT...warmonger McCain was “EAGER” in support of war in Iraq.
You can tell the mentality, the bias of the author with just that one.
That’s the elephant in the room. You’re right.
“What exactly influences the army`s decision while choosing its future president? On one hand, there are those who wait to come home from Iraq as soon as possible, where over 4 million of young lives were lost...”
We’ve lost over four million young lives in Iraq???????
Something tells me that this guy flunked statistics.
My son is currently home on a mid-deployment leave from Bagram. He serves as an enlisted man in the US Army Signal Corps.
He says the John McCain’s stance on the recent GI bill benefits revisions cost him dearly with the active duty troops in Bagram.
My son is a six year active enlistee, as are many with his specialized Signal Corp training. He has previously done a Korean deployment in 2006, so issues of length of service are lost on he and his buddies that will have two or three deployments of 12 to 15 months off one enlistment. His generation knows nothing about McCain the POW and only knows him as a Maverick functionary in the Senate who pisses everyone off.
He was stationed in AZ when McCain tried to tank his career a year ago with amnesty.
Our active duty people don’t have a horse in this race in the clear cut way they did in 2004.
Obama has received over a million dollars MORE than that from overseas donors around the world.
They are legal contributions, just "telling" that those living abroad as expats are more likely to give to Obama than those serving in the defense of this country.
“The key number in all that garbage was that McCain has 49% and Obama 32% support”
Exactly...Just because Soros gave some Army personnel money for donations doesn’t change this, which is the most important fact of this piece.
Eastern European paper.. you should read them sometimes. You wouldn’t believe the crap the press prints around the world. Not just there. I have a friend in Switzerland who believes the Daily Show is real US news.
see my #13
I’d love to see a racial breakdown of his Army donors.
Yep, I just promoted myself to Major General; I declare it so.
Nice of them to mention that many Republicans are disgusted with McCain and are refusing to send him money.
Through much of his campaign, McCain was in an exceptionally split primary. Thompson, Rudy, Mitt, and others were taking Republican dollars wheras Obama was in a two person race and was the primary recipient of media attention.
Two tests:
Test1: accumulate the R contributions minus Ron Paul and then accumulate the Obama dollars.
Test2: The nominees are now clear. Lets see who raises the most in, say, June.
BTW - Why is this only 'Army?' Navy/USMC/Air/CGuard combined outnumber the Army by a factor of two.
“Democrat Barack Obama ... recently advocated momentary withdrawal of troops from Iraq.”
Like his promises they’re only for a moment.
They will never admit they are racists of the first order.
Darlin' I hate to tell ya' but the Army don't make no political donations. Nothing like starting out with a lie.
“there are those who wait to come home from Iraq as soon as possible, where over 4 million of young lives were lost...”
Not only is the number nonsense, the wording sounds like someone who is new to English.
327,000 dollars of donations from those who declared themselves as army officers, .......... A large portion of it must have come from Gen. Clark????
Generalisimo Ray Nagin isn't going to like that (and YES he gave himself all of those medals).
4 million lives lost?
“from those who declared themselves as army officers”
So for all we know somebody got Code Pink members to “declare themselves as army officers” and state they donated to Obama.
“They will never admit they are racists of the first order.”
They don’t have to. In precious few venues will they be called on it, and properly so labeled.
Yeah, I guess it’s tough growing up in a world without facts. They stopped making them a number of years ago due to lack of interest. Grammar and arithmetic were losers, too. Not many takers as it took up too much time.
My son’s intended started her internship at one of the Big 4 Accounting Firms. She said one of her fellow interns made the comment after a couple of days of work, that he wasn’t sure how this “working” thing was going to work out. It took up too much of his day and he couldn’t get anything else done. I had to laugh. Got to admit that was funny.
Ah, that could be part of the explanation. I don't know the whole story about the GI bill, but it would affect how those serving in the military vote.
Btw, a big thank you to your son for his service to our country.
(Iraq as soon as possible, where over 4 million of young lives were lost )
EVER HEAR OF PROOF READING?
I find this very difficult to believe since I am a four star general myself - oh you don’t believe me? Why not? I just said I was right? I wouldn’t lie would I?
What is the “electoral commission” that this Croat journalist is speaking of?
(Despite all, the Democrat denies he is coming closer to the centre. )
The one thing that Obama has said that I can believe.
It is a campaign and he will say and do whatever he thinks will get him elected.
If elected he will be even more socialist then before
Well, they are actually all ‘officers.’
>> “...Obama received over 327,000 dollars of donations from those who declared themselves as army officers,...’<<
Maybe the author was thinking “KISS ARMY”.
Holy @$%&@$!@#. I think that falls under impersonating an officer.
The US military is reporting 4116 US deaths in 5 years (http://icasualties.org/oif/). So is our kill ratio 1000 terrorists to 1 U.S.? Not bad!!!
This sentence makes me think this article is biased and all the facts need to be verified.
Yes, the matter was raised at the time (mardi gras parade after Katrina).
In 2004 3/4 of the votes went to Bush.
I was a voting assistance officer before as well and from personal experience would have to say that anyone trying to claim the Army to be a pro-Democrat place to be full of $hit. You can take all the liberal Clinton Protégés like Clark, or the one disgruntled VET that you find under a rock somewhere, but the Army is a conservative bastion.
These stories have an agenda and are mostly trash.
Wasn’t McCain in the NAVY? Why focus on donations from the ARMY?
Well,
Being oppressed and a victim of da man he’s entitled a Purple Heart.
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