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Senate Backs Wiretap Bill to Shield Phone Companies
New York Times ^
| 9 July 2008
| By ERIC LICHTBLAU
Posted on 07/09/2008 1:05:04 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd
"there was nothing to fear in the bill unless you have Al Qaeda on your speed dial."
Unfortunately, when speaking of leftists this is not a stretch at all.....
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posted on
07/09/2008 1:07:15 PM PDT
by
Enchante
(OBAMA: "That's not the Wesley Clark I knew!")
To: shrinkermd
I bet Obama did not even bother to vote.
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posted on
07/09/2008 1:07:55 PM PDT
by
Always Right
(Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
To: shrinkermd
I don’t trust the government. While I certainly have nothing to hide, it’s a slippery slope. We can only hope that the precident doesn’t allow some future president to justify more overt spying techniques.
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posted on
07/09/2008 1:09:03 PM PDT
by
djsherin
To: shrinkermd
>>>>>>the phone companies that took part in the wiretapping program.
Pointless to correct this again, but it wasn’t a “wiretapping” program, it was a trap-and-trace and pen-register program.
There’s a huge world of technical and legal difference among those terms.
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posted on
07/09/2008 1:10:12 PM PDT
by
angkor
(Conservatism is not now and never has been a religious movement.)
To: Always Right
He was there. How he voted I am not sure. Said he would vote for it. But you know an empty suit is just that!
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posted on
07/09/2008 1:10:12 PM PDT
by
Red_Devil 232
(VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
To: Always Right
I bet Obama did not even bother to vote. He voted yes. Hillary voted no.
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posted on
07/09/2008 1:10:33 PM PDT
by
Phantom Lord
(Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
To: shrinkermd
"The plan, approved by a vote of 69 to 28, marked one of Mr. Bushs most hard-won legislative victories in a Democratic-led Congress where he has had little success of late." LOL! Bush just got the war funded... AGAIN!
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posted on
07/09/2008 1:10:41 PM PDT
by
avacado
To: Always Right
"I bet Obama did not even bother to vote." Actually, I read on FR that he voted in favor of this. I could be wrong.
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posted on
07/09/2008 1:10:46 PM PDT
by
cdbull23
(What's going on in my brain? Check it out: cainsbrain.blogspot.com)
To: Always Right
Well I was wrong. Obama did end up voting. He voted yes like he indicated in his recent flip-flop announcement. McCain however did not bother to vote, probably hurting his chance to capitolize on this issue.
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posted on
07/09/2008 1:11:32 PM PDT
by
Always Right
(Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
To: Always Right
The issue put Senator Barack Obama of Illinois, the presumptive Democratic nominee, in a particularly precarious spot. After long opposing the idea of immunity for the phone companies in the wiretapping operation, he voted for the plan on Wednesday.
To: shrinkermd
The DUmmies and KOSnuts heads’ must be exploding this afternoon!
To: Always Right
The article says he voted for it.
"The issue put Senator Barack Obama of Illinois, the presumptive Democratic nominee, in a particularly precarious spot. After long opposing the idea of immunity for the phone companies in the wiretapping operation, he voted for the plan on Wednesday. His reversal last month angered many of his most ardent supporters, who organized an unsuccessful drive to get him to reverse his position once again. And it came to symbolize what civil liberties advocates saw as capitulation by Democratic leaders to political pressure from the White House in an election year."
Can't wait to hear his nuanced explanation.
To: shrinkermd; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; ...
...broadening the governments spy powers and providing legal immunity for the phone companies...
Libertarian ping! To be added or removed freepmail me or post a message here.
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posted on
07/09/2008 1:16:40 PM PDT
by
traviskicks
(http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
To: Enchante
What’s hillarious about this is that
THE
point of contention was the ability for tort lawyers to enrich themselves suing the telecom companies for helping the feds protect us from terrorist attacks shortly after 9/11.
unfrickinbelievable.
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posted on
07/09/2008 1:17:10 PM PDT
by
MrB
(You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
To: All
If it weren’t so close to elections, I wouldn’t be so afraid of who or how the bill is used in the future.
To: avacado
where he has had little success of late." Other than the Columbian free trade deal, I can't think of a single defeat Bush has suffered in congress in the two years the Rats have controlled it.
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posted on
07/09/2008 1:19:37 PM PDT
by
Phantom Lord
(Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
To: shrinkermd
Obama: This is not the FISA I know... so I vote for it.
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posted on
07/09/2008 1:20:05 PM PDT
by
paudio
(Like it or not, 'conservatism' is a word with many meanings. Yours may be different from mine.)
To: djsherin
well, giving up liberty for security is a proud American tradition. /s
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posted on
07/09/2008 1:20:29 PM PDT
by
traviskicks
(http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
To: shrinkermd
in a Democratic-led Congress where he has had little success of late. Obviously, they haven't been paying attention. The Republicans/Bush have been kicking their butts all over the place.
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posted on
07/09/2008 1:20:30 PM PDT
by
NRA2BFree
(LIBERALS SHOULD BE EUTHANIZED FOR THE "COMMON GOOD.")
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