Posted on 07/08/2008 2:00:47 PM PDT by mnehrling
All part of his daring master plan to make his name as widely reviled among the right as Ralph Nader’s is among the left. [InsiderAdvantage pollster Matt] Towery said North Carolina and Georgia are exactly the places that Mr. Barr could put in play: both have high African-American populations that Mr. Obama can tap to boost his turnout numbers, and have conservative-leaning voters whose dissatisfaction with President Bush could lead them to a third-party candidate.
Polls in Georgia and North Carolina over the last two weeks show Mr. Barr winning 8 percent and 6 percent respectively of the presidential vote, and in both cases helping keep likely Democratic presidential nominee Sen. Barack Obama within striking distance of Mr. McCain in those states — which, taken together, account for more electoral votes than Florida, Pennsylvania or Ohio…
The Georgia poll, taken just before Mr. Barr secured the Libertarian nomination, gave Mr. McCain 45 percent support, Mr. Obama 35 percent and Mr. Barr 8 percent. In North Carolina a Public Policy Polling survey released Monday found Mr. McCain at 43 percent, Mr. Obama at 40 percent and Mr. Barr at 6 percent. The poll’s authors said Mr. Barr’s support appeared to come particularly from independents who previously had broken for Mr. McCain.
I can understand a third-party run if, like Perot, you command a minority so sizable — 20 or 25 percent, say — that the party simply has to address some of its concerns, if not in this election then in the next. A five percent minority doesn’t do that. You can make up that amount elsewhere by doing a better job of mobilizing your base or pandering a bit to other constituencies at the margins. If you’re going to strike at the establishment, in other words, you’d better do it hard enough that the reaction is fear, not anger. How do you think libertarians will be received if this tool hands us President Obama? Exit question: On which issues, precisely, do Barr and Ron Paul propose to compromise with the 95% of Republicans who aren’t voting for them? They’re each trying to bring the GOP around to more libertarian positions, Barr by spoiling McCain’s chances and Paul by trying to work within the party for now and land a role at the convention. Surely they understand that there’ll be some give and take involved in reaching an accommodation with more centrist/hawkish conservatives. Yet Paul’s philosophy, in which every last position is presented as the one and only acceptable constitutional solution, makes that impossible. You have to do exactly what he wants, because that’s what the Constitution wants and there can be no compromise where the supreme law of the land is concerned. So how does this play out? If the GOP decides, sure, let’s give the gold standard a second look, what does America’s Greatest Patriot give back?
Barr is WARPED!!!
He would rather destroy the US than to see McCain win.
Beautiful.
What idiots! It's got nothing to do with President Bush, it's total dissatisfaction with McCain that is leading people to third party candidates.
Bob Barr, “The Spoiler”.
Does Obama have to actually enact his new marxism for people to realize what a crossroads this is?
Who knows, maybe Barr can also run with Hernandez.. Barr was the one who, in his position with the ACLU, fought to prevent local and State law enforcement agencies from being able to prosecute illegals.
I say let ‘em turn the pot all the way up and see if a few of the frogs notice. McCain’s brand of government is still big-government Socialism, and no less dangerous to our continued existence as a sovereign republic.
I’m not too worried about Bob Barr. He has been out of the spotlight for almost 10 years, and has been a stooge of the ACLU.
For the record: I can’t vote for Barr, either. Too much ACLU stink on him. I’m a Presidential no-vote.
That being said, blaming a McCain loss (if it even comes to pass) on the ones who refused to follow the rest of the lemmings over the cliff is a non-starter.
What do we get if Juan wins?
McCain make appeal to hispanics
I'm having a hard time telling much difference between Juan and Hussein.
You can have Juan McCain and his damn border jumpers...............
There are some of us who think McCain is not the Savior of Western Civilization. I don't believe that McCain will be that much different than Obama.
Bears repeating.
Would he really be able to do this all by himself? I thought there would still be a congress, even in an Obama administration, and more than likely more than 40 Republican Senators. I'm thinking that for Obama to do this, or one of hundreds of other nightmare actions some claim he will/could do if elected, he would need not only the support of Congress but even the support of some Republicans.
Obama's a pathetic candidate but he does not, and will not, have the power some imbue him with.
Sure, with McCain as the alternative. McCain is not conservative. He is merely less of a leftist. I'm not compromising ideals ever again. If the GOP or the left-headed GOP voters want me to go along, they must choose a centrist at the very least.
Even though I probably will not vote for Barr, the people that put a POS like McCain in as the GOP candidate, are directly responsible for why Barr can take votes from the GOP. Perhaps the GOP needs to do a whole lot of soul searching.
I guess they can't do that. They corner the market on the stupidity that will usher Obama into office.
LBJ - Destroyed the black family.
Carter - Lost Iran
Clinton - Failed to deter terrorists
Every rat in my memory was a disaster.
Bob Barr is so creepy that he makes Ron Paul appear normal.
Bob Barr should get out
This is truly a grievous state of affairs. I feel really sorry for our Nation to be faced with such a situation. There really is some probability that I'll flinch and punch McCain's ticket for the same reason. Then I'll really start hating myself.
Well, I’m from Georgia. At one time I liked Barr, but not anymore. I do not know anyone around here who has even mentioned his name, let alone announce they are voting for him. McCain still has a tough fight here, but not because of Barr.
If you are handwringing over the likes of a mustachioed dweeb such as Bobby Barr, then you will have a lot of handwringing to do between now and November.
We are 100% guaranteed to not have any leverage with Obama. At least with McAmnesty, we have some leverage through our party donations and party pressure. We also are pretty much guaranteed that our side will not hold the House or Senate in the next election, having the presidency at least gives us a small percent of a block.
Most importantly, in 2010, the new census takes place and congressional lines are redistricted. We need to have some leverage in there some place. If we don't control either the legislative or executive branch during this crucial time, we are guaranteed to not have any leverage in the redistricting process, thus we will lose power for far longer than we can imagine.
Yea, McCain sucks, but I will take any small amount of leverage I can get. McCain is also old which lessens his chance of running in 2012, thus, our second chance is closer than with a young Obama at the helm.
Oh, I’m not handwringing over Barr.. The comment was more a reflection of my distaste for the racist, truther fraud that is Paul.
Didn’t he marry a democrat senator? I seem to remember something about that. Sometimes bed talk pays off, for the obama side.
No, Obama does not walk on water but NBC thinks that Tiger Woods does!
This article is appropriately located in Hot Air.
No. Bob is on his third wife, though.
He's likely to lose a lot of support as the rumors about his messy second divorce spread.
Which wife was it that he manipulated into having an abortion?
Exactly.
That is supposedly his second wife, Gail. But it may have been more a matter of his leaving it up to her. She doesn’t claim publicly that he forced her into anything, though he did condone and pay for the abortion. It’s all on the Internet.
Given the kind of loonies that Obama associates with, there is every reason to believe that his appointments would be even more outrageous than Clinton's.
Every vote for Barr is a vote for Obama--and the kind of people he is likely to put in offices that would have a direct effect on the security of our country, and the world.
Read the comments here, apparently a lot of Conservatives are so frustrated with McCain, they will sell their soul to the ACLU.
When did you jump on the dumbass "Paul is a racist" bandwagon? As far as I knew, you only thought some of his wingnut supporters were. Did you read the touching tribute that Paul wrote about his nearly departed Jewish campaign manager earlier in the week? I swear to God, every time I get sick enough of Barr to consider thinking about McCain, a rash of stupid FR posts pop up which make me want to just go away on vacation around election day and just keep my hands clean of anyone.
If McCain loses to Obama because of Bob Barr, then McCain has a much larger problem than Barr. It appears they are already seeking scapegoats for a massive defeat.
We need to start a “Pelt Barr with Tomatoes Wherever He Shows His Stupid Face” Fund. This man is such a disgaceful assclown for the Marxist/Soros enemy.
I stopped listening to and watching Glenn Beck COLD the moment he started pimping Bob Barr. This after being a loyal fan for years. Yes I despise Bob Barr that much.
Barr is such a non-factor anyway. Obama is going to rape McCain whether or not any third-party guy is in it. Intrade has him in the mid-60's as of today. People would do much better to focus on congressional and state races this year. Between the media bias and the dopey young people obsesses with Obama, McCain is done.
Check out Chuck Baldwin if you want a no-holds barred Conservative.
He used to show up at the gun shows. He also managed to get his whole congregation and guests free showings to The Patriot when it first came out.
He’s a solid, principled man.
So if you could go back in time you would erase your vote for Bush?
Would you rather Kerry had won and given us Lawrence Tribe instead of Samuel Alito?
Because Bush is IDENTICAL to John McCain on the amnesty issue, perhaps worse.
In that case, McCain should undercut Barr by becoming a small government conservative. Then only the libertarians will vote for Barr.
Baldwin is an anti-American kook who associates with white supremacists and wants to cut and run from Iraq.
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