Posted on 07/08/2008 10:21:52 AM PDT by Tazzo
Want some torture with your peanuts? Aviation Security POSTED 2:18 PM BY P. JEFFREY BLACK & JEFFREY DENNING
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By Jeffrey Denning
Just when you thought youve heard it all...
A senior government official with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has expressed great interest in a so-called safety bracelet that would serve as a stun device, similar to that of a police Taser®. According to this promotional video found at the Lamperd Less Lethal website, the bracelet would be worn by all airline passengers.
This bracelet would:
take the place of an airline boarding pass
contain personal information about the traveler
be able to monitor the whereabouts of each passenger and his/her luggage
shock the wearer on command, completely immobilizing him/her for several minutes
The Electronic ID Bracelet, as its referred to as, would be worn by every traveler until they disembark the flight at their destination. Yes, you read that correctly. Every airline passenger would be tracked by a government-funded GPS, containing personal, private and confidential information, and that it would shock the customer worse than an electronic dog collar if he/she got out of line?
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...
The Bible becomes more relevant to me every time I read the news. Craziness.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2041943/posts
Want Some Torture With Your Peanuts? (Airline travel ID bracelet)
07/07/2008 10:55:14 AM PDT · by Fizzie · 121 replies · 1,891+ views
Washington Times aviation security blog ^ | July 1, 2008 | P. Jeffrey Black and Jeffrey Denning
Heck, if you’re not doing anything wrong, what have you got to worry about?
I see a big opportunity here for general aviation.
Didn’t they try this on the Running Man with the neck collars:) Mick Fleetwood had a bit part with the governator.
I’ll take the bracelet, on both wrists and ankles, on full amperage versus some obnoxious, self-absorbed ass yacking endless inanities into their precious cellphone.
Imagine the litigations! An angry flight attendant having a bad day zapping a passenger. Or a drunk pilot. Etc.
What is wrong with this country?
Whenever I fly US domestic airlines, I feel like I’m experiencing in-flight torture.
Some muslim getting ahold of the buzzer and taking control of the plane...... while being able to incapacitate everyone else

This was done by Star Trek a long time ago...
However if we also put the Star Trek guys in charge of the recruitment and uniforming of Flight Attendants, I would be willing to consider a package deal.
I would probably get shocked a lot, though...
I think I saw something like this on Eureka...
Captain: Roger! 14312 is Zapped!
Passenger 14312: AAARRGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
FA: Negative Capt. 14321.
Captain: Roger! 13412 is Zapped!
Passenger 13412: AAARRGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
FA: That's a negative again Captain. Let's try this one more time........
This is a perfect way to implement the national identification program . No card , just an electro shock device with satellite telemetry . Instant negative reinforcement when one of your fellow citizens phones in a report of your misdoings . You should have 5 days after each shock to file a written appeal .(libertarian sarcasm)
Bat Guano
Maybe this is why the Boulder police were keeping a database of people who were reported to have made “insensitive” remarks? (Wish I had a link)
In the best circumstances, someone threatens the plane and the pilot hits the “taze all” button. If you have a pregnant wife like I do, she gets tazed too and possibly loses the baby. And what about the elderly? Grandpa’s pacemaker probably won’t appreciate the undeserved jolt. So you’re going to kill some of the passangers to avert something that the passengers themselves may have been able to stop if given the chance. As someone else said, it’s also possible for a well-planned terrorist to use the device to stun the passengers and assure their success. Overall the point seems to be that they don’t trust the “unwashed masses” to stand up and defend their own lives in the event of an in-flight emergency. A gun or tazer in the hands of a pilot can be directed specifically to the real threat and is much less likely to be used by the attacker before the good guys have a chance to stop him.
How many people are in an airliner at any one time? How would a device be able to indiviually identify each wearer of this bracelet?
How many people are in an airliner at any one time? How would a device be able to individually identify each wearer of this bracelet?
"Good morning Mr. Traveler. Your seat assignment is 28C. Here is your assigned bracelet. Please enjoy your ride in our pressurized metal/carbon composite tube."
“Thank you for Frying with United!”
This bizarre idea has no prayer of ever being approved by any bureaucrat or voted for by politician who hopes to keep his/her job. It does tell us that the bureaucrats at the DHS are growing increasingly out of touch with reality.
Paul S. Ruwaldt
Project / Program Lead
Department of Homeland Security,
Science and Technology Directorate,
Office of Research and Development,
Protection Branch
William J. Hughes Technical Center
Atlantic City International Airport, NJ 08405
Telephone # - 609 -813-2725
E-mail - paul.s.ruwaldt@faa.gov
paul.ruwaldt@dhs.gov
paul.s.ruwaldt@tc.faa.gov
(609) 364-0112
Stand up in your seat to go to the can when the light is off, and you get tazed. Stand up to stop a terrorist from storming into the cabin and you get shocked.
There is too much power in the government’s hands already. The person who proposed this should be forced to watch Rosie O’Donnel shows for 5 days continuously.
Actually, “Sneek and No-Squeek” orders would be best. The agent who designates you for torture would be able to write his own order, and no one would be allowed to tell you or anyone else that you were selected for “redirection.” Until cleared by the Court, you would be required to keep the action secret, also, even when asked.
http://www.law.uga.edu/academics/profiles/dwilkes_more/37patriot.html
If this were to happen, every airline in the country would be gone in a week. The only thing left would be air freight.
Notice how it’s named: “Electronic ID Bracelet”. Sounds harmless.
Judging from the sometimes fatal tazings of citizens by police, and the refusal of police to take responsiblity for the murder, it’s a good bet that the government will not take responsibility for the murder of elderly passengers or pacemaker-wearers who are killed by this device.
Grandma and grandpa electrocuted by the government, to cover up the fact that the government refuses to do what it needs to do to keep passengers safe.
Do you remember GA Gov. Lester Maddox using the term “long-haired, hippie PREverts”? He must have stolen it from that scene.
I won't tell Coca Cola.
Regards,
I don't fly anymore. Too much silly stuff going on, way too many junior totalitarians, and rules that make a sane man's BS meter go off all the time.
I remember flying when it was fun and an adventure. I doubt if it will ever be that way again. If I cannot drive there, or get on a ship to get there, I don't need to go.
A senior government official with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has expressed great interest in a so-called safety bracelet that would serve as a stun device
I like this idea, but not for paying airline passengers
I would be GREAT for taxpayer funded employees
congress-critters and senators would be subject to public approval votes after each legislative days “work”
some type of national telecast with shock/no shock phone numbers
LOL! That’s a great way to put the airlines out of business! LOL!
This is a device just made for a malfunction. I can imagine someone hacking into the operating system and putting the entire flight into stun.
I can see the stun function being used for trivial matters: “Sir, you have been in the bathroom too long. Will you come out now! Stun! I said come out now!”
This is the sort of tyranny that our forefathers fought against.
Somebody explain to me why I can't use my cell phone on the plane because it might interfere with the navigation, but having 150 radio devices attached to the passengers waiting for a transmitter to activate them is okay with the navigation system?
-PJ
1)that it functions properly, and
2) that the flight staff functions properly (i.e., isn't having a bad day and getting too free with the shock button, say after you've protested spending 4 hours on the runway without a bathroom break or drink).
I guess you forgot the sacrcasm tag.
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