PBS to Smear "Totalitarian" America in WWII Documentary

www.rushlimbaugh.com ^ | June 26, 2008 | Rush Limbaugh

[DigitalVideoDude]

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RUSH: World War II, I read today, those of you from the greatest generation, you World War II vets still alive, apparently Monday night PBS is going to run a documentary on World War II in which the whole notion that we were the good guys is going to be turned upside down, that we used totalitarian dictatorship tactics to win World War II, that all we did was bomb the innocent in Dresden and Hamburg and, of course, Hiroshima and Nagasaki, that we were not the valiant and valorous victors that we were made out to be, that we couldn't have done what we did had we not partnered up with another dictator and mass murderer named Stalin. I want to prepare you veterans, if you're going to watch this, because it's Niles something or other, I forget his name. I've got the story here in the stack. I'll try to remember to find it before we get outta here. But they're going to stand the whole legacy of World War II on its head. We were rotten to the core mass murderers of innocent civilians.

[DigitalVideoDude]

I just saw Part 2... absolutely unbelievable.
They do hate America.

[Coffee200am]

I don’t ever watch PBS...and I don’t think I’ll start. Cut their money off.

[HerrBlucher]

Herman Goering made the exact same case during the Nurmeburg trials...i.e. America was just as bad as the Nazi’s so why am I on trial eh? So PBS is arguing Goering’s case....it figures. They are attempting to destroy every last vestige of U.S. pride and honor....they are less than slime....they are Nazi apologists.

[TheWasteLand]

PBS. They put the BS in Public.

[max americana]

The War by Burns was fair in it’s treatment and narrated exceptionally. BUT PBS overall? I truly despise them.

At least in America, they grovel for your money but when I was living in Canada, the taxpayers couldn’t do anything against the communist CBC and it’s anti US/conservative slant.

[furquhart]

I disagree. I’m actually slightly acquainted with Professor Ferguson (I once took a class taught by him) and he’s hardly anti-American. I think that Rush leapt before he looked on this one.

He doesn’t argue that the tactics weren’t necessary, in the case of America and the allies. He merely points out the truth.

[Lucius Cornelius Sulla]

we couldn't have done what we did had we not partnered up with another dictator and mass murderer named Stalin.

This is true, and everyone knows it is true.

[Proud_USA_Republican]

I saw it on my tv’s channel guide tonight, and was interested until I read the description.
I didn’t watch a second of that crap.

[FFranco]

I agree. The Allies destroyed cities. It was terrible it had to be done, but necessary.

[kms61]

x2

[americanophile]

At PBS, the future is known; it’s the past that is always changing... ;)

[chuckles]

I've waited all my life( I'm 57) for PBS to lose their money. I even witnessed a Republican president, Republican Congress and Senate, and they couldn't cut the money off.

[Spirochete]

I even witnessed a Republican president, Republican Congress and Senate, and they couldn't cut the money off.

The *could* have cut it off, but chose not to.

[wideminded]

I saw most of what I think was part II and apparently I didn't think it was so over the top as you did. There was one scene discussing mistreatment of captured Japanese soldiers by American troops, but they seemed to back up what they were saying and this part was quite short and surrounded by much longer parts discussing German and Russian atrocities.

My main complaint was that I found the narrator somewhat annoying and the whole thing seemed to be his personal take on WWII. I did feel that he made some interesting points that I had not heard in any other similar shows.

I did not get the impression that the show was expressing a hatred of America.

[iopscusa]

Saw a bit of this about the loss of China and eastern Europe and the blame was put on Stalin...the truth is much more complex and Stalin’s useful tools that infested the FDR War & State dept’s were very much to blame for Communist takeover in China, E. Europe, Yugoslavia post WW2....there was an enormous conspiracy! All the documentation is available in the Venona reanscripts, FBI files and the Blacklisted by History has a tremendous amount of info on this.
We would see much more of this with a President Obama and the Islamist takeover....IMO.

[Loyal Buckeye]

At PBS, the future is known; it’s the past that is always changing... ;)

Stated another way:

The Left does not learn from history, they rewrite it.

[ken21]

howard zinn and noam chomsky started revisionist history

and now pervasive.

they analyze history by what we know now.

but the protagonists living then

did not know what we know now.

it’s intellectually dishonest.

[Strategerist]

Out of parts I and II there was perhaps a couple of criticizing the Allies, and a good 1 1/2 hours of savagely criticizing the Soviet Union, Lenin, and Stalin (with the Turks in WWI thrown in for good measure.)

This is another one of those overblown frenzies of people criticizing something they didn’t see.

The main thrust of the series is that the Soviet Union was no better than Nazi Germany.

[BallyBill]

I saw much of a PBS documentary last night on USSR and Allied involvement in WWII. It seemed to me it was making the case that the USSR just took over for the Nazi's, even using their own concentration camps.

If that was what Rush had talked about, I didn't get Rush's point. Something that is becoming more common lately.

[Strategerist]

Eh, there were a couple of minutes of video, and discussion, of us shooting Japanese prisoners in WWII.

Which pretty indisputably happened fairly often, and is well known to historians (in fact it’s been a typical part of all warfare, especially immediately after a battle, for thousands of years.) And there was some discussion of the British Bomber Command going for city killing only a short time after they’d declared that was barbarous.

I guess that’s what people have their panties in a bunch over. Ferguson deliberately pointed out the Axis wouldn’t have gotten their cities bombed if they didn’t launch wars of agresssion.

The “Tainted Victory” mainly refers to having to be allied to the Soviet Union.

[hellbender]

FDR and Churchill also sent millions of refugees and displaced persons back to Stalin, knowing damn well that the people would end up being killed or sent to the gulag. British troops were used to round up some of the victims at gunpoint. This was done after the war, so there is no excuse that it was necessary to defeat the Axis.

[Stand W]

I agree completely.

If some leftist goon wants to waste his own money on this drek, let him. But its tyrannical to force me to pay for it.

[Bender2]

Saw Part 1 of “The War of the World: The Clash of Empires” here in Dallas-Ft Worth PBS last night. Typical snobish liberal Brit PC wares from socalled historian Niall Ferguson.

The only equal thing about comparing Dresden/Hiroshima/Nagasaki with the Nazi Holocaust/Japanese systematic brutality/Stalin's purges/mass executions is that a lot of people died. But the total deaths from Dresden/Hiroshima/Nagasaki were less than 300,000 over a period of a few days while the victms of the Nazis, Imperial Japan and Stalinist Soviet Union numbers in the millions and millions over many, many years.

That is the problem with schmucks like Niall Ferguson and his ilk, they take a minute mini-nugget of truth and use it to make sweeping generalities that they trumpet as the one and only truth from their lips to nObama's ear.

And this is all paid for by taxpayers that for the most part do not ever watch PBS nor believe in their liberal revisionist BS.

[central_va]

B-29 bump

[Cheburashka]

...that we couldn't have done what we did had we not partnered up with another dictator and mass murderer named Stalin.

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There was a war on. We did what was necessary. We weren't planning on losing.

By the way, the lefties noticed that Stalin was a mass murderer? Wow, who knew? Why are they trashing him? He's one of their heroes.

Oh, I get it. Trash anybody, trash anything, as long as it allows you to trash the United States. They'll be back to worshiping Stalin tomorrow.

What was it Ann Coulter said? For a leftie history began this morning when he/she/it woke up.

[Cheburashka]

FDR and Churchill also sent millions of refugees and displaced persons back to Stalin,...

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Wrong. FDR was dead, Churchill lost an election and was out of power. Blame Truman, Attlee.

[allmendream]

Totalitarianism is a system of governance not a war tactic.

A Republic may well drop A-bombs on enemy cities, fire bomb them, etc. But they are in no way engaged in “Totalitarianism”, they are engaged in “warfare”.

Words mean things. Professor Ferguson likes to throw that word around, cheapening its meaning, all to score a point with his lib paymasters at PBS.

[hellbender]

But wasn’t the betrayal a consequence of FDR and Churchill’s prior sweetheart deals with Papa Joe?