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Real Change[Ron Paul]
House.gov ^ | 07 July 2008 | Ron Paul

Posted on 07/07/2008 6:42:31 PM PDT by BGHater

One reason people are unhappy with the way politics and governments operate is that people who run for office are known to “say one thing and do another.” Thus, we have the call for “change.” Candidates for high office make frequent use of that word. Even our House Republican Conference’s recently released slogan highlights that word.

Yet, bringing about change is easier said than done. The American people are aware that government is broken and must be fixed. They will demand more than lip service as our problems become more severe.

Change, then, cannot simply be a word. It must be the right program, one that gets us out of this mess, not one that just accelerates us down the same treacherous path. With our economy facing a perilous situation, the need to bring fiscal reform to our government is the cornerstone of the kind of change that is needed. Real budgetary and monetary reform would signify a true change of direction, instead of merely a change of speed toward the economic cliff we are approaching.

Americans realize that their own financial situation is perilous. The nation as a whole is deeply in debt, having mortgaged the future of our children and grandchildren. When politicians talk about what they plan to do for future generations, they ought to begin by stating how they will remove the huge debt burden, not how they will find more ways to spend more money they don’t have.

In order to allow Americans to pay for their needs, whether for healthcare, education, or basics like food and gasoline, we need to change tax and monetary policies so the American people control more of their own money. That money needs to stay in the economy, and out of the government money pit.

This means we must curb the voracious spending appetite of our federal government. We need to rein in international commitments, especially the very expensive costs of maintaining a worldwide military presence, as a key first step to restructuring our budget and economy in a fashion that will allow Americans to provide for themselves.

We need to take a view of government that better reflects our own experience, as well as the wisdom of our nation’s founders. There are very few constitutionally authorized federal powers, and returning daily government to this wisdom is real change.

Working toward a less intrusive, less expensive federal government focused on defending against overt actions of force and fraud, is the means to bringing about real change. As we hear the repeated claims of those who wish to cast themselves as agents of change, we will do well to recall that more federal meddling is not a change in direction at all, but just “more of the same.” We should be repealing programs, not proposing costly new bureaucracies.

Change, real change, the only kind of change that will quench the thirst of the American people for a new direction and provide us with the prosperity and security necessary to preserve our Republic as a beacon of liberty, requires bold initiatives designed to move our country away from economic peril by putting faith in free citizens instead of in Washington.


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1 posted on 07/07/2008 6:42:31 PM PDT by BGHater
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To: BGHater

‘In order to allow Americans to pay for their needs, whether for healthcare, education, or basics like food and gasoline, we need to change tax and monetary policies so the American people control more of their own money. That money needs to stay in the economy, and out of the government money pit.’


2 posted on 07/07/2008 6:43:25 PM PDT by BGHater (Heller v. DC= McCain-Feingold for Gun Control)
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To: BGHater
Great read, thanks.

The sad part about it is that people are too afraid of being in control of their own lives now.
3 posted on 07/07/2008 6:47:24 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: BGHater

give all welfare recipients 30 days notice they are off the dole. I am so tired of carrying this dead weight on my clock.


4 posted on 07/07/2008 6:50:47 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: BGHater

Once again, Ron Paul sees it clearly.

I wonder if he’s voting for Barr?


5 posted on 07/07/2008 6:52:31 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (This election is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if McCain wins, we're still retarded.)
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To: BGHater

This country could be so great if we would elect politicians with the integrity to do this.


6 posted on 07/07/2008 6:54:19 PM PDT by alicewonders (I'm a conservative, and I'm hated by the GOP & the Dems - I must be doing something right!)
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To: BGHater

Both Ron Paul and Bob Barr are appeasers of Islamic terror, but neither are electable. Barack Obama is an appeaser and he has a chance to win.


7 posted on 07/07/2008 7:07:13 PM PDT by Aln in Eastern WA ("We have an obligation to call this what it is – the false comfort of appeasement..." GWB, May 2008)
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To: BGHater
Change, real change, the only kind of change that will quench the thirst of the American people for a new direction and provide us with the prosperity and security necessary to preserve our Republic as a beacon of liberty, requires bold initiatives designed to move our country away from economic peril by putting faith in free citizens instead of in Washington.

Another home run.
8 posted on 07/07/2008 7:11:32 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: Aln in Eastern WA
Both Ron Paul and Bob Barr are appeasers of Islamic terror

That is not even close to being the truth.

9 posted on 07/07/2008 7:13:23 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: BGHater

This Sum-bi_ch needs to shut his mouth. We can’t have folks speaking truth and reality during an election season. That just will not do.

“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

What a pitiful and petty thing to say..........


10 posted on 07/07/2008 7:24:38 PM PDT by nesnah
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To: randomhero97

Barr has called for withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq, leaving no permanent military bases.

A press release from Barr’s presidential campaign stated: “The next president should commit to a speedy and complete withdrawal from Iraq, and tell the Iraqi people that the U.S. troops will be going home

Cut and Run Barr and Obama.
right out of the Code Pink play book


11 posted on 07/07/2008 7:24:50 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: BGHater

Ron Paul and Bob Barr: Attention seeking surrender monkeys.


12 posted on 07/07/2008 7:27:47 PM PDT by Soliton (Investigate, study, learn, then express an opinion)
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To: BGHater

Wow. In this piece, he comes across as almost lucid.

Too bad we know what an effing nut job he is.


13 posted on 07/07/2008 7:30:54 PM PDT by LouD
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To: BGHater
When politicians talk about what they plan to do for future generations, they ought to begin by stating how they will remove the huge debt burden, not how they will find more ways to spend more money they don’t have.

The financial obligations of the federal government will continue to increase at a rate far outpacing the product of GDP growth, population growth, and inflation. The mainstream of the Democrats AND the Republicans are content to grow the beast larger, especially regarding entitlement spending. The promised temporarily proposed spending cuts so many on our side are getting excited about from the McCain camp are a PITTANCE, like a vet proposing to first get rid of fleas on a dog that has been hit by a car (and yes, I know the other main vet in town recommends gouging its eyes out and giving it a few swift kicks).

There are staggering structural disasters-in-waiting regarding entitlement spending, especially (but not limited to) future liabilities and unfunded obligations of Medicaid, Medicare, and Social Security. Our "fiscally responsible" mainstream alternative is content piss on a blazing inferno (to be fair, the other guy is pouring more fuel).

To make matters worse, "both sides" propose to add major cap-and-trade taxes/regulations to kill off American jobs, destroy the American economy, and make millions more dependent upon the federal government (thereby expanding the liabilities of said entitlement programs - while simultaneously shrinking their revenue base). AND AND AND AND AND AND make 20 million illegal immigrants eligible for even more federal benefits, including social security (but they will pay taxes on their $6 an hour jobs, perhaps a whole $14 a year - break out the champagne, the Republic is saved)!

I pity the poor SOB administration whose lap this mess finally explodes in. I wonder if we will go the turd-world route and try to "inflate away the debt", LOL.

14 posted on 07/07/2008 7:37:40 PM PDT by M203M4 (True Universal Suffrage: Pets of dead illegal-immigrant felons voting Democrat (twice))
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Might I suggest his book, “The Revolution, A Manifesto.” It explains a good deal more than he was allowed to during the “debates.”

Of course if you already know everything there is to know about him you certainly wouldn’t want to read it - it might change your opinions and we can’t have that, can we?

In grade school I was told “there are none so blind as those who will not see.” That saying is especially apropos here.


15 posted on 07/07/2008 7:54:33 PM PDT by oldfart (The most dangerous man is the one who has nothing left to lose.)
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To: SoCalPol

I was referring mainly to the mention of Ron Paul. I’m not too keen on Bob Barr.


16 posted on 07/07/2008 8:00:24 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: Soliton

I wonder if Alex Jones is supporting Bob Barr.


17 posted on 07/07/2008 8:05:09 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: BGHater

Anyone who looks at Ron Paul past his BS speeches sees that he simply packs the federal budget with pork for his district, then votes asainst it when he knows it will pass.

Examples of recent Ron Paul-sponsored pork:

1. $25,000 for the Brazoria County Sheriff to establish a “Children’s Identification and Location Database.”

2. $8 million for the marketing of wild American shrimp.

3. $2.3 million for shrimp fishing research.

4. $3 million to “secure the acquisition of the McGinnes tract, protecting its critical natural resources and helping consolidate refuge inholdings.”

5. $5 million to expand the cancer center at Brazosport Hospital.

6. $200,000 for the Matagorda Episcopal Health Outreach Program to fund a “National Health Service Corp Scholar.”

7. $4.5 million to study the effects of the health risks of vanadium.

8. $3 million to test imported shrimp for antibiotics. (Does anyone think there is a big shrimp industry in Paul’s district?)

9. $10 million to repair the Galveston railways causeway bridge.

10. $1.18 million for “Personalized Medicine in Asthma”

11. $100,000 for a “data-driven automated system for nursing students on the Texas Gulf Coast.”

12. $257,000 to “prepare graduates from the doctoral program at the University of Texas Medical Branch School of Nursing to assume faculty roles in schools for nursing with a deficient number of doctoral level faculty.”

13. $1.4 million to buy buses for the Golden Crescent Regional Commission.

14. $2 million to buy buses for Galveston.

15. $5 million for highway spending.

16. $2 million to replace facilities for Galveston bus service.

17. $3 million to replace facilities for the Golden Crescent Regional bus facility.

18. $2 million to repair the Galveston trolley.

19. $2.14 million to renovate the Edna Theater.

20. $13 million for I-69 highway project.

21. $30 million the Texas Maritime Academy to refurbish a ship.

22. $4.5 million to maintain Cedar Bayou. Plus another $9 million

23. $15 million for “construction at GIWW Matagorda Bay.” Plus another $5.8 million

24. $100,000 to maintain Chocolate Bayou.

25. $2.5 million to maintain Double Bayou.

He is nothing more than another Obamaish speech maker.


18 posted on 07/07/2008 8:12:27 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Leftists stop arguing when they see your patriotism, your logic, your CAR-15 and your block of C4.)
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To: MindBender26

IMO, the only answer is for certain states to secede.


19 posted on 07/07/2008 8:13:40 PM PDT by Globalist Goon ("Head down over a saddle.")
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To: randomhero97

Paul holds the same views on Iraq as Barr and Obama


20 posted on 07/07/2008 8:46:44 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: randomhero97
"That is not even close to being the truth"

Truther is on the mark though.


21 posted on 07/07/2008 8:52:56 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: nesnah
This Sum-bi_ch needs to shut his mouth. We can’t have folks speaking truth and reality during an election season. That just will not do.

Yes, but who care about what is happening on American soil?

22 posted on 07/07/2008 8:53:45 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: MindBender26

And all that pork combined probably costs less than one single day of the Paul-opposed Iraq war....


23 posted on 07/07/2008 9:45:07 PM PDT by Baron OBeef Dip
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To: Baron OBeef Dip

Since you support the anti war candidates why not move back over to DU. Your Code Pink propaganda is getting old.


24 posted on 07/07/2008 10:05:59 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: MindBender26

I keep seeing this arguement and waiting for someone - ANYONE to explain why he does it. So far, no one has looked past the headline to see the ‘rest of the story’ so I guess I’ll try.

Ron Paul a realist. He knows that he’s in a very small minority when it comes to voting down massive sspending bills. He knows the bills will pass despite his vote. He also knows that the people in his district are being taxed to pay for those exorbitant spending bills. So he’s faced with voting against a tax and losing to the liberal majority and then voting against an huge spending bill and losing, once again, to a liberal majority. His constituents are getting robbed and he can’t drum up enough votes to stop it. Then their money is being spread around the rest of the world and - again, he can’t drum up enough votes to stop it. So, if he can’t keep the money in his district in the first place he can at least try to get some of it sent back in the form of earmarked expenditures. Why is this so difficult to understand? How else could he keep local money local?


25 posted on 07/07/2008 10:06:46 PM PDT by oldfart (The most dangerous man is the one who has nothing left to lose.)
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To: SoCalPol; MindBender26; Aln in Eastern WA
This is an economic thread, not an Iraq thread. Give credit where credit is due. Paul is wrong on the war and parts of foreign policy, but on bread-and-butter issues he'll eat all the Republican's lunch.

Everything what he says in the article is totally correct. He was virtually the only candidate talking about the weak dollar and the federal reserve, and entitlements and deficit spending. He also foretold the stagnation and decline of the GOP as younger voters are abandoning it in droves.

There's a clip of Paul at Grand Central Station giving an impromptu speech, it's mesmerizing on the scale of Braveheart or 300. I bet if Paul was the nominee, his volunteers and supporters would have completely blown Obama's supporters off the map.

26 posted on 07/07/2008 10:22:12 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (BARACK OBAMA WILL SAVE US! HE HAS RISEN!!)
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To: SoCalPol
Since you support the anti war candidates why not move back over to DU. Your Code Pink propaganda is getting old.

You don't know what you're talking about. I did not vote for Ron Paul in the republican presidential primary.

27 posted on 07/07/2008 10:28:47 PM PDT by Baron OBeef Dip
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To: oldfart

Exactly! I’ve tried to explain this once or twice elsewhere, but you have stated it much more clearly.


28 posted on 07/07/2008 10:39:35 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: M203M4

Amen to your analysis & comments.


29 posted on 07/07/2008 10:45:36 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: oldfart

re: Ron Paul a realist

Ron Paul is a BS artist. He cryies out against the waste and then votes himself millions in pork so his district will return him to DC for more,


30 posted on 07/07/2008 11:15:26 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Leftists stop arguing when they see your patriotism, your logic, your CAR-15 and your block of C4.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

#18 is a listing of what this BS artist is really about. He is s complete phony


31 posted on 07/07/2008 11:16:54 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Leftists stop arguing when they see your patriotism, your logic, your CAR-15 and your block of C4.)
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To: MindBender26

As I said above: There are none so blind as those who will not see.


32 posted on 07/08/2008 7:33:51 AM PDT by oldfart (The most dangerous man is the one who has nothing left to lose.)
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To: ovrtaxt

He would vote for Baldwin of the Constitution Party before Barr IMO.


33 posted on 07/08/2008 8:31:48 AM PDT by djsherin
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To: BGHater

Think what you will of him. Paul is dead right on every domestic issue, some I never even thought about until I saw this “kook” making his speeches. The weakening dollar is a SERIOUS issue. And it has become far weaker under this “conservative” administration. The national debt is a real problem. $3 trillion doallars were added on to it under Republican rule. Illegal Immigration... the party tried to stab us in the back with amnesty and only because we screamed and hollered did they back down. And the fence they promised us is a joke, an unfunded joke. Getting the government out of the market place. Cutting back spending. Cutting taxes. Leaving people to do as they please. States rights. Like I said, he’s dead right on domestic issues.


34 posted on 07/08/2008 8:43:25 AM PDT by djsherin
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To: MindBender26

This adds up to a grand total of $120 million dollars. Though not justifiable, it’s a drop in the bucket. This is 40 cents per American and junt under a dollar per tax payer. Pork barrel spending and earmarks are bad, but they’re not the problem. We spend $250 BILLION dollars on interest on the debt every year. 250 billion dollars for essentially nothing. That’s 2,000 times as much money for something that benefits no one (except those who hold the debt). I’m not in favor of earmarks and the like, but the real problem is our government’s desire and ability to spend so much money on every little problem that arises. The welfare nanny state and market regulating government needs to end NOW.


35 posted on 07/08/2008 8:52:06 AM PDT by djsherin
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To: television is just wrong

Well said. I too am tired of the welfare gimme gimme state that promises everyone a handout and delivers failed policy and a mounting national debt... I sure as hell don’t want to pay for all that but since we have to, why make it worse?


36 posted on 07/08/2008 8:54:55 AM PDT by djsherin
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To: LouD

Right, because limited government in all aspects of life is solid proof that one is a nut job.


37 posted on 07/08/2008 8:57:04 AM PDT by djsherin
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To: mysterio

Well said. Our Republic is in dire need of the liberty it has been denied so long.


38 posted on 07/08/2008 8:57:59 AM PDT by djsherin
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To: M203M4

You present a great body of work here. I wish more people seemed to care about these issues. I too pity whichever president is elected to see the collapse of the Republic. The interesting thing then will be to see what becomes of this nation. Will it revolt and demand liberty? Will it become imperial as Rome did? Or will it just collapse and phase away into the pages of history?


39 posted on 07/08/2008 9:01:07 AM PDT by djsherin
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To: CJ Wolf; traviskicks

ping


40 posted on 07/08/2008 8:46:59 PM PDT by murphE (I refuse to choose evil, even if it is the lesser of two)
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To: Soliton
We need to rein in international commitments, especially the very expensive costs of maintaining a worldwide military presence, as a key first step to restructuring our budget and economy in a fashion that will allow Americans to provide for themselves.

I fail to see how conservatives can find fault with this foreign policy.
41 posted on 07/09/2008 12:01:19 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: murphE; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; ...


Libertarian ping! To be added or removed freepmail me or post a message here.
42 posted on 07/09/2008 12:03:44 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: traviskicks
I fail to see how conservatives can find fault with this foreign policy.

Then you're not a conservative

43 posted on 07/09/2008 1:10:33 AM PDT by Soliton (Investigate, study, learn, then express an opinion)
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To: Soliton; traviskicks
"I fail to see how conservatives can find fault with this foreign policy."

"Then you're not a conservative"

Ron Paul's foreign policy platform is identical to Bush's 2000 foreign policy platform.

Al Gore was against it, so.. is Al Gore a conservative?

44 posted on 07/09/2008 6:47:11 AM PDT by maclay (America First - The rest of the world comes second)
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To: Aln in Eastern WA

Have you actually READ that in Ron Paul’s own words or are you just spewing and regurgitating what you read someone else say they’d heard their boy/girlfriend’s cousin’s wife’s housekeeper say they’d heard their own cousin mention to them? In other words, POINT OUT PRECISELY WHERE Ron Paul wants to appease moose-slime terrorists.... in his own words. Otherwise an apology and retraction are in order.


45 posted on 07/09/2008 7:04:14 AM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: maclay

According to some morons here, if you are not 1000% in favor of endless war for endless “peace” you are an appeaser and a DUmmy and anything but human. Sort of like the old soviet thought police.


46 posted on 07/09/2008 7:13:14 AM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: Soliton

Can you point out just WHERE it says that you must support endless war to be a “conservative?” Cites to original documentation would be acceptable. Thanks.


47 posted on 07/09/2008 7:15:00 AM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: MindBender26
Anyone who looks at Ron Paul past his BS speeches sees that he simply packs the federal budget with pork for his district, then votes asainst it when he knows it will pass.

And how much of that was actually approved by congress. i'll wait for your answer...

48 posted on 07/09/2008 7:24:05 AM PDT by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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To: dcwusmc
Can you point out just WHERE it says that you must support endless war to be a “conservative?” Cites to original documentation would be acceptable. Thanks.

Could you show me where I supported "endless war"?.

The Constitution of the United States of America: We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Conservatives believe in the Constitution. The Constitution explicitly authorizes the government to provide for the common defense AND makes the president the Camander-in-Chief. I think that if we go to war, we should fight until victory is achieved and the gains secured, like a good conservative should.

49 posted on 07/09/2008 7:51:56 AM PDT by Soliton (Investigate, study, learn, then express an opinion)
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To: maclay
Ron Paul's foreign policy platform is identical to Bush's 2000 foreign policy platform.

That's the problem. September 11th, 2001 happened.

50 posted on 07/09/2008 7:53:28 AM PDT by Soliton (Investigate, study, learn, then express an opinion)
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