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Why Haven’t More Blacks Jumped the Democrat Ship?
Bob Parks: Black & Right ^ | 3 July 2008 | Bob Parks

Posted on 07/07/2008 1:10:47 PM PDT by K-oneTexas

Why Haven’t More Blacks Jumped the Democrat Ship?

Bob Parks

I felt the following quote requires some further commentary...

I'm confused as to why any African American would be a Republican in this day and age.
- Robin Wright-Jones, (D) Missouri State Representative

With all due respect to Representative Wright-Jones, I can't understand why more blacks haven't jumped the Democrat ship.

Granted, with decades of vilification, I can understand why people decide to avoid the public ridicule one would be exposed to as a black Republican. While many, including former Washington D.C. mayor Marion Barry, mistakenly believe (for example) President Lincoln was a Democrat, the belief that Democrats are the real friends of blacks are built on many false premises and deliberate revisionist history.

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KEYWORDS: blackvote

1 posted on 07/07/2008 1:10:47 PM PDT by K-oneTexas
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To: K-oneTexas

Blacks?.......what about Jews?


2 posted on 07/07/2008 1:18:00 PM PDT by kjo
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To: kjo

Didn’t see that article. But I see what your saying.


3 posted on 07/07/2008 1:20:31 PM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: kjo

That’s a good question.

I did hear a black man call into Hannity a few weeks ago. He said he was a “Republican”. But he was hung up on “rich people” not paying their fair share and was concerned about entitlements and welfare.

I think Republicans have done a poor job in selling the party. Blacks, Jews and Hispanics should be Republicans.


4 posted on 07/07/2008 1:21:24 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Made on a Mac)
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To: K-oneTexas
Look at any FR thread on race and you'll get your answer: comment after comment attacks "welfare queens" and "baby mamas" and "gang bangers," comments that promote a cartoon image of American blacks.

Blacks will feel free to turn GOP when they no longer feel threatened by Republicans.

They may agree with the GOP on vouchers and gay marriage, but racism trumps all else.

5 posted on 07/07/2008 1:21:26 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: K-oneTexas
[ Why Haven’t More Blacks Jumped the Democrat Ship? ]

Because Kingfish or a white man in black face is running for President of the Mystic Knights of the Sea.. After all Obama is as white as he is black.. and knows the proper handshake and RAP.. Its not popular to say the american black culture is toxic and sucks.. so they don't.. Black women are almost to/at 80% unwed births this year.. Kingfish is the poster boy..

6 posted on 07/07/2008 1:21:48 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Alter Kaker

I see it as the opposite.

When someone actively redirects the blame for every hardship in your life to someone else and declares you a blameless victim,

that message will resonate and attract a devoted following.

Those “attacks” that you’re referring to are valid commentaries on cultural issues that are actually to blame for “keeping the black man down”.


7 posted on 07/07/2008 1:25:10 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: K-oneTexas
Why Haven’t More Blacks Jumped the Democrat Ship?

I guess the water in the bilge hasn't risen enough or maybe doesn't stink enough to raise alarm.

8 posted on 07/07/2008 1:28:13 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: MrB

Exactly....the message that “you are a victim” has worked for sixty years.


9 posted on 07/07/2008 1:30:18 PM PDT by kjo
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To: Alter Kaker

Glad to see someone else here who is honest. :-) I was just about to post this:

Let’s face it: The reason there aren’t more black Republicans is all the negative rhetoric about “blacks” in the conservative movement.

Dems have racist policies, we all know that. But they wouldn’t be so successful in vilifying Republicans as bigots if some conservatives didn’t give them so much firepower.


10 posted on 07/07/2008 1:31:08 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: K-oneTexas
There is a class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs-partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.

-Booker T. Washington
11 posted on 07/07/2008 1:34:18 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Tired of Taxes

IOW - Maybe all you conservatives should be more politically correct, and perhaps some new laws would help. /s


12 posted on 07/07/2008 1:34:30 PM PDT by commonguymd (Freedom and individual liberty is for everyone, including the odd and weird people like you.)
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To: kjo

Blacks find it easier and more lucrative dealing with democrates. Tax payer monies flow freely to community based organizations with no one being held accountable for the programs success or failure. Church organizations are run like small businesses, making profits within their communities on low interest government loans made to them. Entitlement programs that are generational and now a way of life, Programs that have been in existance for years that are still being funded and no one held accountable.
For both jews and blacks it is easier to payoff and deal with liberals than republican conservatives.


13 posted on 07/07/2008 1:34:51 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (IF YOU ARE NOT CONSERVATIVE BY 35 YOU HAVE NO BRAIN. W CHURCHILL)
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To: K-oneTexas
"Why Haven’t More Blacks Jumped the Democrat Ship?"

Slavery -> Stockholm Syndrome -> can't leave the Liberal Welfare Plantation.

That simple.

14 posted on 07/07/2008 1:36:38 PM PDT by avacado
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To: Tired of Taxes

telling the truth about a culture of failure is bigotted in these days of political correctness


15 posted on 07/07/2008 1:36:50 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: K-oneTexas

The same reason they didn’t leave N.O. when the water started to rise.


16 posted on 07/07/2008 1:37:54 PM PDT by wilco200 (Typical White Person)
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To: K-oneTexas

Great column!


17 posted on 07/07/2008 1:38:03 PM PDT by Tribune7 (How is inflicting pain and death on an innocent, helpless human being for profit, moral?)
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To: K-oneTexas

Who would be left?


18 posted on 07/07/2008 1:40:14 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: K-oneTexas

The Democrats, with their cancerous welfare state, have successfully turned the overwhelming bulk of the urban black population into government addicts. And just as drug addicts need to keep going back to their dealers for a fix, government addicts likewise need to keep going back to THEIR dealers. That would be the Democrat politicians who buy their votes with welfare, food stamps, “programs”, government jobs, and other “free stuff”.

I wouldn’t look for those blacks who are government addicts to jump the Democrat ship, ever.


19 posted on 07/07/2008 1:43:58 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: K-oneTexas

It’s not that complicated. Democrats simply offer more unconditional freebies at the expense of the non-black population. Blacks who want to get ahead get affirmative action and quotas in college admissions and in business recruitment. Blacks who don’t want to work get cradle-to-grave welfare entitlement programs. Both policies are perennially under attack from Republican administrations.


20 posted on 07/07/2008 1:44:34 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: Alter Kaker
I personally believe it is because the democrats have for ever long promised them that the Gubnint will provide for them and they are not either too lazy or too stupid to think for themselves.

I have known many a Black family that do not know who the father is of any of the kids and there are numerous ones and are PROUD to the 3-4th generation welfare family. They believe that they are owed something. I call them the GOOFY people, think of his theme song “The world owes me a living”.

American Blacks are a cartoon image and until they themselves see this as it is they will continue to be so. The black family used to be a strong family but now there is no true black family (DAD, Mom & kids).

21 posted on 07/07/2008 1:44:58 PM PDT by SledgeCS (Build the fence. Deport the Illegals. Sell all their assets to cover the cost.)
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To: commonguymd

well, republicans have turned into the most politically correct bunch in the nation, every day here on FR we are treated to an new attack on American Values worse than Hitler.

It’s an issue of respect, the same way the Democrats have problems with evangelicals and rural America. The Dems have a lot of policy positions that match up better with these voters, but they don’t win them over because the Dems don’t show them respect.


22 posted on 07/07/2008 1:50:11 PM PDT by Philly Nomad
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To: SledgeCS
I'll take "Broad Brush" for $300, Alex...


23 posted on 07/07/2008 1:51:21 PM PDT by WVKayaker (Your mileage may vary.)
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To: commonguymd; MrB

This isn’t about political correctness nor telling the truth. It’s about discussing the issues in a civil manner. Some people take their comments too far.

If you don’t care, so be it. But then don’t complain about not getting a bigger share of the black vote.


24 posted on 07/07/2008 1:52:12 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: SledgeCS
American Blacks are a cartoon image and until they themselves see this as it is they will continue to be so.

Millions of middle and upper-middle class black families defy your stereotype, yet people like you continue to send the message that blacks are not welcome in the GOP.

Your prejudice, but our loss.

25 posted on 07/07/2008 1:53:52 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Tired of Taxes; Philly Nomad

Didn’t anyone tell you respect is earned and not an entitlement? Talk about the core issue.....

I used to have to tell fairweather fans that there was no room on the bandwagon. I feel the same way here with people wanting to gloss over reality by controlling speech on a whim, so I refuse to capitulate and not be able to call a shovel a shovel, a rock a rock, a dingbat a dingbat, or a spade a spade.

Next thing I know someone will tell me I can’t use the word illegal to describe illegal aliens, but will have to call them undocumented immigrants to be politically correct and get the illegal vote.

OOOOPSSS, already happening:
http://hotair.com/archives/2007/02/28/florida-legislator-wants-to-ban-term-illegal-alien/


26 posted on 07/07/2008 2:18:52 PM PDT by commonguymd (Freedom and individual liberty is for everyone, including the odd and weird people like you.)
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To: Tired of Taxes; Alter Kaker
You don't have to subject yourself to conservatives who don't like blacks to still have conservative views.

In other words if on a black Conservative forum they mouthed country music and elite white liberals or Hollywood whites who think they know it all it wouldn't change the fact that I am pro life, pro gun, for low taxes and a strong defense would it?

Bill Clinton is brutalized on this forum, as he should be. Hippies and Greens tofu eating soy latte drinking liberal, the vast majority being white, are brutalized here too. Why would gang bangers and punks with 3 babies mommas being trashed be racist while bashing the hippies is not.

I will tell you this much, any black person who wants to bash hippies and greens and any other elitist white person can go for it. Hell I will join them.

27 posted on 07/07/2008 2:39:55 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: K-oneTexas

Because the Democrats promise them money.


28 posted on 07/07/2008 2:45:10 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Does Obama know ANYONE who likes America, capitalism, or white people?)
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To: K-oneTexas

J C Watts says there is no outreach.


29 posted on 07/07/2008 2:47:10 PM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: commonguymd

So how do blacks earn your respect?


30 posted on 07/07/2008 3:52:19 PM PDT by Philly Nomad
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To: Alter Kaker

I talk about fat welfare mommas and their drunk boyfriends. Where I live they’re all white as snowballs. Looks like you’re the one who has a problem with stereotypes and race.


31 posted on 07/07/2008 4:46:31 PM PDT by sergeantdave (We are entering the Age of the Idiot)
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To: K-oneTexas
Why Haven’t More Blacks Jumped the Democrat Ship?

Fear of real tax reform.
Potentially resulting in loss of:
1. Earned Income Tax Credit
2. Child Tax Credit
3. Additional Child Tax Credit

And this is NOT a racist posting.
There are plenty of our fellow citizens of EVERY conceivable
level of melanin and ethnic background that keep casting votes
for Democrats for the same reasons.

No matter how rational any sort of "replacement" tax system
would be, even if it might benefit these constituencies even more
than the present system...
they'll keep the status quo.

Like a broken clock, Bill Clinton was right when he said
"Change has no constituency".
32 posted on 07/07/2008 4:57:29 PM PDT by VOA
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To: commonguymd
We have a right to free speech, but we don't have a "right" to be free from the consequences to what we say. In this case, the consequence is a small (almost zero) percentage of the black vote.

You don't have to care. But, some people here are wondering why there's such a small share. If you want to know why, some of us are trying to explain why. If no one really cares why, then don't complain about the small share of the black vote. That's all we're saying.

And I'm not talking about using PC terms like "undocumented immigrants." I'm also not talking about pointing out problems among any particular group of people. There's nothing wrong with pointing out social ills.

But, if the discussion isn't carried out in a CIVILIZED manner, that group of people will not feel welcome, and even if they do vote in this direction, they'll be ashamed to admit they did.

For the record, the other day, I was on a thread discussing outreach for the black vote. I started out insisting it would be a waste of time. But then we got into a discussion about true outreach versus pandering.

33 posted on 07/07/2008 10:34:13 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: normy
Yes, as I was saying on another thread, the issues are more important. I find some conservatives' comments obnoxious, and that doesn't keep me from voting GOP.

Then again, look at what little difference really exists between the GOP and the Dems. And then consider the Dems' talking points pandering for the black vote. As socially conservative as some black voters may be on certain issues, they're willing to vote against those conservative views.

I will tell you this much, any black person who wants to bash hippies and greens and any other elitist white person can go for it. Hell I will join them.

But what if they bashed ALL white people, stereotyping us like Rev. Wright & Co. do. And what if they were in control of the party? You might look at another party and justify your vote.

For a short time, I voted LP. The LP platform of limited gov't was attractive. But I didn't want to be associated with some of its members. Though I still agree with the LP on certain issues (pro-free market, etc.), I didn't agree with all of them. So I returned to the GOP.

It seems the same thing is happening with the black vote going to the Dems. I believe we could've attracted a greater share of that vote using the right rhetoric. I think it's too late now, though.

34 posted on 07/07/2008 11:42:05 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: Tired of Taxes
But what if they bashed ALL white people, stereotyping us like Rev. Wright & Co. do. And what if they were in control of the party? You might look at another party and justify your vote.

My view is that 90-95% of blacks vote for Dems. Dems are socialist elitists who want to put most of us on welfare, keep us from protecting ourselves and to cower to the UN. They never want us to fight for the interests of the US but they will sacrifice our troops for a global cause.

They want to force a homosexual agenda as well as Marxist agenda on our children through the public school system as well as teach white kids to always be guilty and subservient to those who are not white due to the supposed sins of their white ancestors. This is the Democrat Party.

Now when 90-95 percent of one race votes for that platform, it's kinda hard to maintain an open mind about that peoples agenda. As a matter of fact I think Conservatives are pretty mild since they always seem to be pondering why a generally Conservative people would back such an agenda for the last 50 years.

Now if all whites or maybe 90 percent of whites voted a certain way instead of 55 to 45 it would be a little easier to paint them with a broader brush.

We're all humans and have the same nature, so if blacks are so distrustful of white Conservatives as to vote in such a huge block for the Socialist Party, why wouldn't whites be distrustful of blacks for betraying their own convictions?

35 posted on 07/08/2008 4:50:15 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: normy

Even if the GOP could win a bigger share of the black vote, it wouldn’t be much. But the Dems shouldn’t be receiving close to 100%. That’s outrageously high.

I’ve no doubt the vast majority of black voters prefer big government programs. But, let’s face it, Normy, the GOP has given us big-government spending, too, despite all our objections. The Republican party has been sold to us using rhetoric, too. There’s a lot of talk about limited government, but they rarely follow-through.

Have the GOP followed through with national defense? Illegals have been pouring through the border by the millions. Only recently has the President begun to take action, long overdue.

Just like all that tough talk attracts us as voters, the Dems have their own talk to attract black voters.

Taxes... The GOP may have a better record on taxes, but that issue only attracts voters who pay a lot in taxes.

That leaves us with social issues. Black voters tend to be more conservative on social issues, but we’re just talking about one or two issues, right? In the meantime, here come the Dems, claiming to represent the black community and pointing to all the noise around the GOP.


36 posted on 07/08/2008 10:23:33 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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