Leftists Fight “Gundamentalism”

Cross Action News ^ | 7-7-08 | Mark D. Tooley

[Victory111]

The “God Not Guns” coalition is predictably upset about the U.S. Supreme Court’s overturning the Washington, D.C., handgun ban.

“It will embolden adherents of GUNdamentalism in their belief in the inerrancy of the 2nd Amendment,” intoned the Rev. Nancy Smith, coalition founder and chief. “Gundamentalism is a religious movement without spiritual grounding. Rather, it is rooted in the sale and promotion of violence.”

[mvpel]

So apparently according to Rev. Nancy Smith, a defenseless woman raped and beaten is somehow less violent than a dead rapist and a smoking gun in a woman’s hand?

[mvpel]

"Not a blacksmith could be found in the whole land of Israel, because the Philistines had said, "Otherwise the Hebrews will make swords or spears!" - 1 Samuel 13:19

[ClearCase_guy]

People who value the religious freedom described by the First Amendment ought to have equivalent respect for the freedom described in the Second Amendment.

[Dr. Sivana]

“It will embolden adherents of GUNdamentalism in their belief in the inerrancy of the 2nd Amendment,”

Let's give her credit, she acknowledges what the Second Amendment is, but disagrees with it. She is welcome to try to get a Constitutional Amendment passed to realize her vision of a better order.

[xDGx]

Useful idiots for the Brady bunch.

[MrB]

Leftists are never honest enough to play within the rules to achieve their goals.

They’d rather not have to go through the messiness of a constitutional amendment when you can so much more easily sway 5 people to your side of the argument.

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[cbkaty]

The “God Not Guns” coalition is predictably upset about the U.S. Supreme Court’s overturning the Washington, D.C., handgun ban.

Oh Lord....what next...rape me, shoot me, stab me, kill me....but I did not have a firearm, therefor I get to go to heaven? WTF?

[ken21]

guns don’t kill,

people do.

it’s called behavior, bitch.

either you’re responsible or not.

libs don’t want to hold people responsible for bad behavior.

[cowboyway]

Let’s see...........so now I’m a Typical White Gundamentalist............

I good with it.

[Redleg Duke]

I see the National Council of Churches is active here...typical for a Marxist Organization.

[SauronOfMordor]

“Gundamentalism is a religious movement without spiritual grounding. Rather, it is rooted in the sale and promotion of violence.”

She's got the 2nd Amendment confused with Islam

[william clark]

Saw the headline and thought they were going after teddy bears now.

[HoosierHawk]

How do we bring about God’s Kingdom - with an open heart or with a gun in hand?

If we even could "bring about God's Kingdom," my guess is that it would require both.

[MrB]

The root tenet of liberalism is that

the responsible should be forced to pay for the behaviorial decisions of the irresponsible.

This extends to the policy of “someone poops their pants and we ALL have to wear diapers”.

[TLI]

"Not a blacksmith could be found in the whole land of Israel, because the Philistines had said, "Otherwise the Hebrews will make swords or spears!"

Dang Skippy right we will make `em! That and a few things ya have not heard of yet...

[xDGx]

Actually, if you go to their site, they have some interesting partners, including the ‘Muslim American Society Freedom Foundation’

http://www.godnotguns.org/

http://www.bradynetwork.org/site/PageServer?pagename=GNG_partners

Do NOT go to masnet.org, flagged as a harmful site

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6263

Now why would the ‘Religion of Peace’ want to see us disarmed?

[Old Teufel Hunden]

"It offers power, freedom, self-determination and protection all in the metal casing of a gun. With the gun as its icon, the 2nd Amendment as its creed, gundamentalism proclaims that nothing is as sacred as the right to own a gun.”

Preach on sister!!! I will say that I believe all of the bill of rights (and I include the 14th amendment in that) to be sacred.

[DesScorp]

I wouldn’t trust these people to speak for me personally. I certainly don’t trust them to speak for my God.

[Old Teufel Hunden]

"Let's give her credit, she acknowledges what the Second Amendment is, but disagrees with it. She is welcome to try to get a Constitutional Amendment passed to realize her vision of a better order."

This would still not give her the desired outcome. People that believe (like Johnathon Turley and Alan Dershowitz) the 2A is an individual right, but would like to see the Amendment overturned still do not get the 2A or the bill of rights. It is impossible to get rid of the 2A because our current government does not grant these rights, but merely recognizes pre-existing (to the government) rights. As Patrick Henry would say, the natural rights of man.

[WayneS]

She doesn’t explain why the Apostles carried swords...

[668 - Neighbor of the Beast]

“Gundamentalist.”
I like it!

[Migraine]

Cars and guns are tools. The main difference between them is that cars are inherently more violent by far. Hmmmm. Which one to ban? Hmmmm, let me think...

[tumblindice]

Then Jesus asked them, “When I sent you without purse, bag or sandals, did you lack anything?” “Nothing,” they answered. He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. It is written: `And he was numbered with the transgressors’ ; and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in me. Yes, what is written about me is reaching its fulfillment.” The disciples said, “See, Lord, here are two swords.” “That is enough,” he replied. (Luke 22:35-38, NIV)

[Dr. Sivana]

It is impossible to get rid of the 2A because our current government does not grant these rights, but merely recognizes pre-existing (to the government) rights. As Patrick Henry would say, the natural rights of man.

You are of course, right. Enough of the Founders anticipated that these rights would not be recognized long-term if not spelled out that they decided to spell them out and provide the Tenth Amendment as a catha-all for the rest. Patrick Henry, if I recall,was the most prominent of the Anti-Federalists and thought that spelling them out would be a bad idea.

A right that is not protected by the government isn't too practical, and when the atmosphere is filled with legal positivism, internal consistenecy is pretty much the most you can hope for from your opponents. Fifty million victims of abortion are not well-consoled that no one had the rigth to do what the Court said could be done.

[Dr. Sivana]

She doesn’t explain why the Apostles carried swords...

They are just dandy for gutting fish and opening scrolls.

[Donald Rumsfeld Fan]

“Gundamentalism is a religious movement without spiritual grounding. Rather, it is rooted in the sale and promotion of violence.”

You're sadly mistaken. It's actually rooted in peace.

[weegee]

I thought Obama was fighting BOTH demographics, those who cling to God (on issues like abortion and homosexuality) and Guns (on the 2nd amendment).

These were not meant to be interpreted as a single bloc of voters, it was Obama’s comment to typify “single issue” voters who each have a DIFFERENT issue they won’t bend on.

[weegee]

You can have my giant robot when you pry it from my cold dead hands... < /s >

Gundamentalists is probably what Gundam fanatics should be called.

[weegee]

That’s a lie. The neo-left veganatics have told me that Jesus was a vegetarian. You must be mistaken about them slaughtering innocent fish. < /s >

[weegee]

Read up on the religious Left. Read up on the God Gap.

(both are active keywords with some background of the liberals’ 2004/2006/2008 election strategy to co-opt religion to tell people how to vote)

They don’t come to their views through religious study, they study religion to sway the masses to the viewpoint they already held.

[Jonah Hex]

Gundamentalists: Green-haired girls with big eyes, big hooters, and big guns.

I like it! ;-)

[Old Teufel Hunden]

"Patrick Henry, if I recall,was the most prominent of the Anti-Federalists and thought that spelling them out would be a bad idea."

Actually, people like Patrick Henry, Thomas Jefferson, George Mason and the rest of the Anti-Federalists were for the BOR. They felt in general that our natural rights needed to be spelled out somewhere in the constitution so that they are guaranteed. Some of the Anti Federalists were against the Constitution because it did not speel out our natural rights. People like Federalist Alexander Hamilton were against the BOR because they said that these rights were so basic as to be commonly understood by everyone that citizens retained these rights. Alexander spelled out his opposition in Federalist paper 87. Keep in mind that the BOR was written by an Anti-Federalist (James Madison).

"Fifty million victims of abortion are not well-consoled that no one had the rigth to do what the Court said could be done."

This is the sad irony of Roe vs. Wade. Somehow Supreme Court justices found a penumbra in the 14th amendment (which is ridiculous) that a woman has the right to kill her unborn baby. Yet these same liberal justices/scholars cannot see the plain reading of the 2A. They also cannot read the plain penumbra of the 4th amendment to our right of private property. (See Kelo).

[bmwcyle]

Another Cultural Marxist in churh. This is why women should not have leadership in the church.

[Zionist Conspirator]

Looks like the Left no longer believes in “armed resistance.”

[MrB]

In the Church, as in the family, men ARE the leaders, by definition...

just whether they do a good job of it or not - that’s the question.

[GladesGuru]

Rev. Nancy Smith - a Liberal asking for the ultimate ZOT.

Perhaps, given the ALmighty’s alleged dislike of deliberate deception, she should curtail her summertime outdoor activities?

[GladesGuru]

As a matter of theological accuracy, the Commandment originally forbid “murder”.

Liberation theology types like to claim the Commandment forbid “killing”.

They are, in so claiming, violating the commandment forbidding “bearing false witness”.

If I may be forgiven for paraphrasing a famous Watergate line, “Is this here ‘bearing false witness’ what we, back home, call plain old ‘lyin’”?

[Oldpuppymax]

Anything to create a nation of peaceful sheep, all prepared for the eventual coming of the leftist ministers of salvation. Or in plain english, create a defenseless public so the Marxists can take over as easy as pie! Yeah..I’m sure that’s part of Gods plan.

[tumblindice]

“Rev. Nancy Smith”

1 Corinthians 14:33-35 (English Standard Version)
33 For God is not a God of confusion but of peace. As in all the churches of the saints, 34 the women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says. 35 If there is anything they desire to learn, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church.

[Zionist Conspirator]

Anything to create a nation of peaceful sheep, all prepared for the eventual coming of the leftist ministers of salvation. Or in plain english, create a defenseless public so the Marxists can take over as easy as pie! Yeah..I’m sure that’s part of Gods plan.

I understand that, but my point is that the Left used to scream for "armed revolution." The fact that the American Left advocates that only the government can legally own firearms certainly gives a certain degree of believability to the theory that the Left is actually run by the American Establishment.

[struggle]

They are a NEWTYPE of conservative!

[Travis McGee]

On his last night, in the garden, Jesus told his disciples they needed swords for self defense.

Swords were the pistols of Jesus’ day.

[Dead Corpse]

Havamal 38
A wayfarer should not walk unarmed,
But have his weapons to hand:
He knows not when he may need a spear,
Or what menace meet on the road.

[Puppage]

intoned the Rev. Nancy Smith, coalition founder and chief

She's a Reverand AND a Chief? So, she can bless the masses & do a rain dance at the same time?

[BenLurkin]

BUMP!

[School of Rational Thought]

No hiding the fact now that the anti-civil rights crowd is religious like in their faith. No pretending there is any rational basis to their beliefs now.

[Dick Bachert]

Luke 22:36
“He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.”

Today, He would most likely instruct His people to buy a firearm.

And the next Manson, Dahmer or Bundy that turns up — send him to live with some of these folks.

[semantic]

Yet these same liberal justices/scholars cannot see the plain reading of the 2A.

Sure they can. They completely & thoroughly understand the plain meaning, but as Souter noted, the minority believe the Constitution can be amended by 5/9. It elevates Scotus as final arbiters over public policy matters.

It is this type of thinking that is most dangerous, and needs to be combated via an impeachment process.