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Why some conservatives are backing Obama. Meet the Obamacons.
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | July 6, 2008 | Carolyn Lockhead

Posted on 07/06/2008 9:18:40 PM PDT by FocusNexus

The "Obamacans" that Sen. Barack Obama used to joke about - Republican apostates who whispered their support for his candidacy - have morphed into a new phenomenon, or syndrome, as detractors like to call it: the Obamacons.

These are conservatives who have publicly endorsed the presumptive Democratic nominee, dissidents from the brain trust of think tanks, ex-officials and policy magazines that have fueled the Republican Party since the 1960s. Scratch the surface of this elite, and one finds a profound dismay that is far more damaging to the GOP than the usual 10 percent of registered Republicans expected to switch sides during a presidential election.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservatives; elections; idiotalert; notconservative; obama; obamacons; propaganda; propagandawingofdnc; stuckonstupid; wishfulthinking
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To: FocusNexus

So lets take names and never forget.


21 posted on 07/06/2008 9:37:11 PM PDT by DB
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To: FocusNexus

This is really just smoke and mirrors. The last comment of the article pretty much reveals all.

“Obama is actively trying to switch one prominent Republican to an Obamacan, former Secretary of State Colin Powell, who met with both candidates last month.”

Powel is not a Conservative, never was and never will be.

The title is whacked out. It presupposes that a Republican is a Conservative. Go no farther than Juan McCain to shoot that one down.

I know a number of Conservatives who will not be voting for Juan, but I don’t know any who will be switching to vote for Obamarama.

I do know Democrats who will be voting for McCain. So much for the lopsided ‘Conservative’ crossover votes. IMO, it’s going to be Clinton Democrats who break ranks to swoon over McCain.

Obama even scares the crap out of them.


22 posted on 07/06/2008 9:38:03 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Annapolis, flight school, Congress, Senate, MIAs, Keating 5, Soros, Kerry... tried & found wanting!)
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To: FocusNexus

There will be a few Repubs who go for Obama. There won’t be any conservatives, certainly no ideological types.

There will be a fair number of Dems who jump over and vote McCain. There is a certain percentage of Dems who always vote Republican, and I suspect that percentage will be bigger this time.

What Obama will do is hang onto a higher percentage of Green/Nader voters than will the average Dem candidate. But not enough to overcome the Dems jumping ship to McCain.

Overall, after you balance out all the fence-jumpers, the net gain is to the Repubs. But you won’t read a thing about it, if you read the press rags you’ll think Repubs and evangelicals are all lining up to vote for Obama. Sure they are.


23 posted on 07/06/2008 9:38:09 PM PDT by marron
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To: FocusNexus

What a bunch of bull. How can you be a hardline socialist and a “conservative” at the same time?

This smacks of propaganda. There is always an organization like “Democrats for X GOP candidate” or “Republicans for Y Democratic candidate” in each Presidential election cycle. And there might be a grand total of 100 people in the organization in question, but by gosh it’s a “trend” and “newsworthy” for the lamestream media.


24 posted on 07/06/2008 9:38:21 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: EveningStar

Do you know any? I sure don’t. Obama even scares the union member democrats in my family. They won’t vote for him.


25 posted on 07/06/2008 9:40:06 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Annapolis, flight school, Congress, Senate, MIAs, Keating 5, Soros, Kerry... tried & found wanting!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

There was also a recent poll, showing that libertarians overwhelimngly support Obama.

Here it is:

Libertarians Favor Obama and Other Looks at Election 2008

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2041168/posts

“Libertarian voters ... favor Barack Obama over John McCain by a 53% to 38% margin. “

Suggest going from the link above to the actual Rasmussen report article, which has a lot more detail.


26 posted on 07/06/2008 9:41:15 PM PDT by FocusNexus ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: FocusNexus
The only so-called conservative I have seen make nice-nice on Obama is that self-serving moron Michael Smerconish.

Doug Kmeic is NOT a conservative. He has whined about "income inequalities", "climate change" and Israeli "excessive force". Those are not conservative positions, in addition to Kmeic's betrayal of the unborn by giving cover to the most radical pro-abortion candidate in history.

27 posted on 07/06/2008 9:41:50 PM PDT by montag813
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To: FocusNexus
"There are people saying Obama's a University of Chicago Democrat, and you can't spend 10 years at the University of Chicago without having some appreciation for markets.

I don't know why I didn't think of that. Obama is from Chicago, and Hayek taught in Chicago!

Obama and Hayek in the same time zone, quite possibly in the same phone book!!

OK, thats enough for me. I'm taking the Obama plunge.

28 posted on 07/06/2008 9:44:25 PM PDT by marron
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To: FocusNexus

If an Obama supporter can call himself a “Conservative”, then the word has completely lost all meaning.


29 posted on 07/06/2008 9:45:34 PM PDT by Cymbaline (I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stres)
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To: DoughtyOne

From Rassmussen report:

“The largest group, representing 24% of the nation’s voters, are both fiscally and socially conservative. ...McCain leads Obama 82% to 13% among these voters. “

Can someone explain to me why 13% of those who claim to be both fiscally and socially conservative want to vote for Obama?

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/libertarians_favor_obama_and_other_looks_at_election_2008


30 posted on 07/06/2008 9:45:38 PM PDT by FocusNexus ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: FocusNexus

“The untold story of the Bush administration is the deliberate annihilation of the Reaganite, small-government wing of the Republican Party,” said Michael Greve, director of the Federalism Project at the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative think tank. “A lot of people are very bitter about it.”

Peggy Noonan got it right months ago when she referred to both Bush presidents as “wastrels.” They got to the Oval Office because of years of hard work and party building done by others, then both Bushes just frittered away all that had been built up by people other than them. Wastrels!

GHWB rode in on Reagan’s coattails, then proceeded to trash what had been accomplished before him, and then he lost after one term.

W. has been riding the patriotism and support that accrued to him after 9/11, even as he abandoned ever fiscally conservative notion that existed in the party, plus he and Rove, following their pander to Hispanics strategy, set off an unnecessary and very damaging internal fight over amnesty, insulting half or more of Republican voters along the way.

After the 2004 election, Republicans were in perhaps their strongest position ever, and in less than two years it all evaporated and Congress was lost. W. and Rove bear a big part of the blame for the nosedive in party fortunes since 2004.


31 posted on 07/06/2008 9:45:49 PM PDT by Will88
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To: DoughtyOne
I know a number of Conservatives who will not be voting for Juan, but I don’t know any who will be switching to vote for Obamarama.

This is the reality. No matter what the screamers say, conservatives who do not support McCain do not support Obama.

32 posted on 07/06/2008 9:46:43 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: FocusNexus

Keep dreamin’ San Francisco Chronicle....


33 posted on 07/06/2008 9:47:18 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: FocusNexus

I saw it, but for Libertarians to prefer a hard-line statist totalitarian big government type over McCain (despite McCain’s shortcomings), calls into question their own actual ideological preferences.


34 posted on 07/06/2008 9:48:44 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: DoughtyOne

The article actualy distinguishes between ObamaCANS (Republicans for Obama) and ObamaCONS (conservatives for Obama).

It states that it started with Obamacans, but now it spread to Obamacons.


35 posted on 07/06/2008 9:48:47 PM PDT by FocusNexus ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: FocusNexus

Fools !


36 posted on 07/06/2008 9:50:02 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: FocusNexus

Armstrong Williams and a few other black conservatives are tempted to vote for Obama, but I supect there will be very few Republicans who end up voting for him. He’s just too far to the left.

But quite a few might not vote for anyone for president, or might take the third party route.


37 posted on 07/06/2008 9:51:00 PM PDT by Will88
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To: FocusNexus
This is all fascism. The media wants to disenfranchise you into believing that even “conservatives” are backing the loser, the Obomination. It just isn't so. Don't buy it.
38 posted on 07/06/2008 9:52:04 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: FocusNexus
From Rassmussen report:

“The largest group, representing 24% of the nation’s voters, are both fiscally and socially conservative. ...McCain leads Obama 82% to 13% among these voters. “

Can someone explain to me why 13% of those who claim to be both fiscally and socially conservative want to vote for Obama?

Apparently, 13% of this 24% are illiterate or incapable of rational thought. That moron percentage is considerably higher in most of the other groupsa Rasmussen describes.

39 posted on 07/06/2008 9:52:58 PM PDT by AzSteven ("War is less costly than servitude, the choice is always between Verdun and Dachau." Jean Dutourd)
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To: FocusNexus
RINOs and Libertarians "might" vote for Obama, but a conservative would NEVER vote for him!

I have seen numerous news reports of "Colin Powell expected to endorse Obama..."

News flash...Colin Powell isn't a conservative!

40 posted on 07/06/2008 9:54:27 PM PDT by jan in Colorado (For Barack Hussein Obama TRUTH FILE see my homepage!)
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