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Serbs shrug off Binghamton bar attack, and still rant at U.S. for '99 bombing
nydailynews.com ^ | July 5th 2008 | RICH SCHAPIRO

Posted on 07/06/2008 1:08:11 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

BELGRADE - They sit like open sores at the heart of this turbulent eastern European nation.

Long before international fugitive Miladin Kovacevic revived tensions between the U.S. and Serbia, NATO bombs reduced a row of once formidable government buildings here to hulking shells.

The ravaged red-brick and concrete buildings are still standing nearly 10 years after the American-led aerial assault. They represent a wound that, many Serbians say, still runs deep.

"Our people look at America like it's an enemy," said Niko Percovic, 30, a reporter based in the northern city of Novi Sad.

That is one of the reasons, Percovic said, the tale of the monstrous Serb athlete who pummeled Brooklyn college student Bryan Steinhauer and then fled the country received almost no attention here for weeks.

"Nobody wants to say anything about Kovacevic or write anything about him in the newspapers," Percovic added.

But Kovacevic's story isn't going away anytime soon. The U.S. and Serbia are locked in a diplomatic battle over how to get Kovacevic back to upstate New York to face American justice.

A solution could take months - if one comes at all.

International attention focused on Serbia after Kovacevic, a 6-foot-9, 280-pound jock, fled there following a May 4 bar brawl that left fellow Binghamton University student Bryan Steinhauer, 22, in a coma.

The hulking Kovacevic, 20, escaped the U.S. on June 9 with the help of a consulate member, prompting Sen. Chuck Schumer to blast the Serbian government and demand the fugitive be returned. The U.S. ambassador to Serbia this week echoed Schumer's demand.

A month after Kovacevic fled, he remains a free man.

A Serbian prosecutor said the U.S. has still not filed the formal documentation necessary to spur local authorities to act. Even then, Serbian officials have suggested that their law may forbid them from extraditing Kovacevic.

American officials have conceded their best hope is that Kovacevic is persuaded to surrender voluntarily.

One question looms large - why would he?

Kovacevic has been spotted strolling around in a T-shirt and gym shorts near his hometown of Kula, a tiny city in the north with a sinister history.

Located 100 miles from Belgrade, Kula is known as the former base of an elite military unit, the Red Berets, which reportedly carried out political assassinations at the behest of the notorious Serbian dictator Slobodan Milosevic.

Residents there continue to view the U.S. with skepticism. Kovacevic's family friends said he was the victim of a conspiracy.

"The most he is guilty of is that he is big," one friend said.

Around Kula's three-block downtown, residents said they were shocked - and baffled - that one of their own had become a headline-grabbing fugitive.

"Was the [victim] somebody famous?" asked a man at an outdoor fast-food shop in between bites of a pljeskavica, a Serbian hamburger made with pork, lamb and beef. "I heard it was just a fight."

Belgrade, Serbia's bustling capital city, pulsates with life in the summer months.

Outdoor cafes remain packed deep into the night with people sipping iced coffees and wine. Hordes of stunning young women stroll past boutique shops wearing eye-catching outfits. Weekend nights don't end until the sun rises.

Questions about the Kovacevic case were often met here with looks of confusion.

"I don't know about it," said a 42-year-old sunglass vendor who declined to give his name. "We have our own problems and they are big ones."

Very big. Beyond the glamour and frenetic nightlife that Belgrade has become known for lies a government in tatters.

A parliamentary election in early May ended with the pro-Western party winning the most votes, but with little hope it could form a united government with its nationalistic opponents.

Two months later, the country is still without a functioning government - a black eye for a nation used to strife.

The police appear to be on edge. On two separate occasions this week, Serbian police ordered a Daily News photographer to erase his photos.

In 1999, Milosevic, intent on driving ethnic Albanians out of Kosovo, sent Serb soldiers and police rampaging into the neighboring province.

Then-President Bill Clinton pushed for the NATO attacks, which killed thousands of Serbs and left several government buildings obliterated. Today many political observers believe the bombing campaign was unwarranted.

In Serbia, feelings are still raw.

Dragana Grujin, 30, said she hates Clinton for the devastation he brought to her country nine years ago.

"I don't like it when people get killed for nothing," said Grujin, a hotel worker from Belgrade. "What America did was not necessary. Everybody here feels the same way."

As for Kovacevic, Grujin's views of the case mirrored many of her fellow Serbs. "There was a fight and the Serbian guy was tougher," she said. "What's the big deal?"


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; US: New York
KEYWORDS: bravosierra; clinton; dhimmitudedaily; jihadkneepads; monicaswar; revisionisthistory; serbhatingbigot; ustashe; wrongside; wrongwar
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To: Tailgunner Joe; FormerLib; NYC Republican; nkycincinnatikid
The Serbs haven't even issued an arrest warrant yet even after recieving a formal request to return him to the US.

Tailgunner, there is nothing in the article that you link to that says a "formal" request has been made!

41 posted on 07/06/2008 3:13:48 PM PDT by F-117A (Mr. Bush, Condi, have someone read UN Resolution 1244 to you!!!)
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To: F-117A

When US makes request, he will be tried in Serbia.
if he is guilty, he will get in jail, if not- not


42 posted on 07/06/2008 3:16:09 PM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: kronos77
As I recall, in 10 commandments there is something like “Don't touch someone else's girl as*”

No, but in the US this action would be felony sexual assault. Civilized people call the police, they do not commit violent assault, which is a more serious felony. From your comments in this thread 'civilized people' does not include anyone in the Balkans

43 posted on 07/06/2008 3:20:24 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Obama "King of Kings and Lord of Lords")
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To: F-117A

Anyway, in the mess senator Charles Schumer (D-NY) reqested that Serbi amust extradicte Kovacevic.
Senator Charles Schumer is known to be Albanian lobbyst:

http://www.aacl.com/AACL_JUN2005/DioGuardi-politics_and_religion.htm


44 posted on 07/06/2008 3:20:56 PM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: kronos77
...until Steinhauer grabbed the buttocks of the sexy sophomore, whose Facebook profile is adorned with dozens of provocative pictures - including one of her holding a penis-shaped cake and a condom.

This girl is hardly alone. Young women these days advertise themselves as free meat so at some point they should expect to be treated like free meat.

45 posted on 07/06/2008 3:23:30 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin '36 Olympics for murdering regimes Beijing '08)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Dragana Grujin, 30, said she hates Clinton for the devastation he brought to her country nine years ago.

I'd be pretty angry as well if a foreign president decided to bomb my country to get a sex scandal out of the news.

46 posted on 07/06/2008 3:23:58 PM PDT by Hacksaw (Deport illegals the same way they came here - one at a time.)
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To: Scotswife
The Serbs were also killing christian croations.

Sorry, the Albanians are the ones that attacked the Croats in Kosovo! (along with their attacks of the Gorani, Roma, Serbs and Turks!)

47 posted on 07/06/2008 3:24:13 PM PDT by F-117A (Mr. Bush, Condi, have someone read UN Resolution 1244 to you!!!)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Yes, and on just how many minutes a rape is committed in US?
Sex crime?
Too late for the victim. If someone offends girl, and he gets beaten up for that, the victim is still that girl and not the beaten-up bastard.
48 posted on 07/06/2008 3:24:34 PM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"Almost hard to believe that a 135 pound weakling would really attack a 6 foot 9 inch giant. Maybe because he didn’t."

TGJ, never one to let THE FACTS get in the way of a good "hate-the-Serbs" fest.

Gropped girl's mother sorry....

The mother of a sexy coed at the center of a violent bar brawl said her daughter was "violated" by the bespectacled honors student but insisted he never should have been beaten for the offense.

"My baby didn't deserve what she got," Melissa Cartagena, 40, said Sunday. "No one has a right to grope my daughter."

Bryan Steinhauer, 22, is still in a semicoma eight weeks after the stomping that cracked his skull.

And suspect Miladin Kovacevic remained on the lam in his Serbian homeland - thanks to the embassy official who bailed him out of jail and helped him flee the country.

Cartagena, whose daughter's name is also Melissa, said the fellow Binghamton University student was "devastated

"She has worked hard to build up her reputation," Cartagena said. "She's an honor student with a steady job."

The mom said Steinhauer "was really drunk," but said he should never have been pummeled.

"My prayers are with him," she said. "I hope he makes it out of the coma."

Her daughter released a statement in which she said Steinhauer groped her and head-butted her boyfriend, Senal Softic, 21, when they clashed at an offcampus bar May 4.

"This big guy [Kovacevic] saw what happened and just began punching him over and over," she wrote in the statement. "It all happened so quick."

49 posted on 07/06/2008 3:26:11 PM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe

I dont know, but Hillary should have done to Bill over Monica what Kovacevic did to Steinhauer over Melissa, and we would avoide one war...


50 posted on 07/06/2008 3:34:29 PM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Why Heck, the Austro Hungarians had to get the Kaiser involved just to get them to even offer to TALK about the assasin Princip’s serb army employers. Belgrade is going to give this punk up? He is a serb hero!


51 posted on 07/06/2008 3:35:25 PM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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To: nkycincinnatikid

Franz Ferdinand was shot by Austrian citizen.
Austria wanted to go to war against serbia long time before that.


52 posted on 07/06/2008 3:38:21 PM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: Scotswife
My point? It would be a mistake to characterize the conflict as christian vs. muslim.

But this does describe the situation that exists currently in Kosovo, hence the destruction of 200+ Christian churches, monasteries, and cemeteries, along with the KLA also targeting non-Muslim Albanians.

53 posted on 07/06/2008 3:42:34 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

This would otherwise be nothing more than a pedestrian “guys, a girl and a bar” story, had Kovacevic not gotten help from the embassy to make a run for it. Even though the embassy worker was fired by Serbia almost immediately, it has now been turned into an international incident with politicians on both sides of the Atlantic grandstanding. And the NY Daily News has shown itself to be a racist rag following this story —wit headlines like “Serb” Thug” Serb Brute” — you’d think that there weren’t three of them accused of the same fight. Pretty juvenile at best, if you ask me.


54 posted on 07/06/2008 3:45:26 PM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: kronos77

Lincoln was shot by an American citizen, but he wasn’t on the payroll of Gen Lee or Virginia.
Austria Hungary resisted all provocations until Germany reacted forcibly to the 9/11 style attack upon the heart of European governance, as the black hand had calculated


55 posted on 07/06/2008 3:53:47 PM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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To: kronos77

Austria wanted to go to war so badly they offered Serbia ridiculously prohibitive terms & after Serbia accepted declared war on them anyway.


56 posted on 07/06/2008 3:55:14 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Jacob Kell

When the Croat’s political leader was knifed to death by the serb majority leaders on the floor of the “Yugoslav/serb/Triannon” duma in the 20’s a precident was set.


57 posted on 07/06/2008 4:07:39 PM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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To: skeeter

What can one say other than that you are incorrect and know better. Had the serbs accepted the draconian terms for having assasinated the heir to the A/H government the war would not have occured.


58 posted on 07/06/2008 4:15:46 PM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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To: nkycincinnatikid

What precedents were set by US Senators and representatives challenging each other to duels during the first 100 years of our Republic?


59 posted on 07/06/2008 4:22:43 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: FormerLib

Let’s “Take it outside” actually has a civilized ring to it.


60 posted on 07/06/2008 4:24:25 PM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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