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OPEC president warns no end to oil price rises
AFP ^ | Jul 6, 2008 | Unknown

Posted on 07/06/2008 12:08:46 PM PDT by decimon

ALGIERS (AFP) - OPEC president Chakib Khelil warned Sunday that oil prices will continue to rise because of the falling dollar, in an interview in the Algeria-News.

"The price of oil will rise again in the coming weeks. We have to follow the evolution of the dollar, because a one percent fall in the dollar means four dollars more on the price of oil," Khelil, who is Algeria's minister of energy and mines, told the independent daily.

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"I believe that 60 percent of the rise is due to the fall in the exchange rate of the dollar and to geopolitical problems, and 40 percent to the intrusion of bioethanol on the market," he said.

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1 posted on 07/06/2008 12:08:46 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

Not many in the media covering this aspect are they? It’s not about shortages, it’s about the US fed printing too much money.


2 posted on 07/06/2008 12:11:52 PM PDT by kjo
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To: decimon

Maybe we have a warnign r two for the OPEC President like if there is no market for yur oil you will drive camels instead of solid siver cars...............


3 posted on 07/06/2008 12:17:41 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: decimon

Reid and Pelosi have been working real hard since 2006 to implement their comprehensive energy policy. It also tells us lots about who might be pulling Obama’s strings. Certain currency manipulators seem to be closely related to the financing of the DNC. The ethanol farce is just one more sign as to how quickly things out of hand when the greed and stupidity over rule the free market.


4 posted on 07/06/2008 12:20:37 PM PDT by Steamburg (Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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To: decimon

Drill our own oil, watch the price fall.


5 posted on 07/06/2008 12:20:46 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (Just say NObama!)
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To: kjo
"The price of oil will rise again in the coming weeks. We have to follow the evolution of the dollar, because a one percent fall in the dollar means four dollars more on the price of oil,"

The man is making a valid point. A point that is ignored by the media as well of the Fed as they keep lowering interest rates.

And what happened to all those Freepers that once cheered the devaluation of the dollar so that American markets would open up to the world? Fools.

6 posted on 07/06/2008 12:22:28 PM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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To: kjo

Sinking dollar, rising prices.

Offshore drilling won’t reduce gas prices, stronger dollar will.

Offshore drilling is just election year BS.


7 posted on 07/06/2008 12:23:14 PM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: decimon
OPEC president warns no end to oil price rises

Oh, big deal! Cheeze, what did they expect this guy to say: "Well, if the truth be known, we here at OPEC feel the rise in oil prices is just about over, and are bracing for a sharp market correction.'

Like Limbaugh said this kind of stuff isn't news, it's made-up "news" by the MSM.

8 posted on 07/06/2008 12:25:21 PM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: ex-snook
Offshore drilling is just election year BS.

Yeah. It's not like we can drill our way out of the problem. More supply never affects prices.

9 posted on 07/06/2008 12:25:52 PM PDT by Jacquerie (McCain will not kiss the a$$ of Islam.)
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To: trumandogz
"And what happened to all those Freepers that once cheered the devaluation of the dollar so that American markets would open up to the world? Fools. "

They are still cheering it.

10 posted on 07/06/2008 12:26:07 PM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: Steamburg

11 posted on 07/06/2008 12:26:10 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (Just say NObama!)
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To: decimon

Rising oil price = no end in eventual reduction of demand.


12 posted on 07/06/2008 12:30:25 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president! (it ain't over 'til it's over))
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To: decimon
Chakib Khelil

Some leadership we've had, where we've reached a point where some bathrob wearing freak named Ali Baba Cheatya Killya issues threats while slowly choking off America...

Fortress of America sounds better and better.

We should start doubling our food production, and start a national drive for energy Independence...Use imprisoned illegal aliens for farm labor to save fuel on farm machines...All we've really got to do is eat and drink and double the size of our military, double our food production, build nuke plants etc and start the national drive for energy independence...Only genuine allies like Australia will benefit...

All others that want to eat our food will pay 50 barrels of oil for a half dozen corn dogs. A T-bones will go for 60 barrels...With meat..150 barrels.

13 posted on 07/06/2008 12:34:16 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Jacquerie
"Yeah. It's not like we can drill our way out of the problem. More supply never affects prices. "

Get real. There has been no double demand increase. There has been a double inflation increase. Presidents of both parties over the past 30 years have not pushed offshore drilling. Offshore drilling is in the same category as reducing gas taxes for the summer. It's election year bullcrap.

14 posted on 07/06/2008 12:37:51 PM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: ex-snook
There has been a double inflation increase.

Get real yourself.

15 posted on 07/06/2008 12:42:09 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Beware the Congressional, Environmental and Radical Left complex.)
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To: dragnet2
Some leadership we've had, where we've reached a point where some bathrob wearing freak named Ali Baba Cheatya Killya issues threats while slowly choking off America...

I didn't see any threats. The headline contains the word 'warns' but the headline is from some editor with the job of producing catchy headlines.

16 posted on 07/06/2008 12:44:20 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

time to go short...


17 posted on 07/06/2008 12:47:54 PM PDT by steveyp
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To: ex-snook

Wow, I think you are one of the very few around here that actually understand the current situation.

First, that that devaluation of the dollar is having a great impact on the current price of oil.

Second, that Offshore Drilling will not solve our problems and is little more than election year window dressing.

Don’t you find it interesting that so many blame the Democrats for the Offshore Drilling ban while that ban was first signed into law by a GOP President and renewed 24 times by either or GOP President, a GOP Senate or a GOP House and Senate?


18 posted on 07/06/2008 12:49:20 PM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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To: decimon

OPEC was complaining about the weak $US 35 years ago. It’s boilerplate.


19 posted on 07/06/2008 12:51:26 PM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: decimon
I didn't see any threats.

You don't see any threats from the Mideast oil sultans?

Tell ya what, when it continues to go up and this country is brought to it's knees, because our leadership is at their never ending garden party behind locked gates, and your piece of the pie is reduced to a pan of macaroni and a Chinese made scooter...You can tell me all about not seeing any threats.

20 posted on 07/06/2008 12:51:28 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Jacquerie

Are you talking about the current Offshore Drilling Ban.

Now, Let’s Review who has kept that Offshore Drilling Ban in Place since 1981.

Now let’s review each year since 1981 and see who it is that voted for and signed the renewual of the Offshore Drilling Ban.

1981 GOP President and a GOP Senate

1982 GOP President and a GOP Senate

1983 GOP President and a GOP Senate

1984 GOP President and a GOP Senate

1985 GOP President and a GOP Senate

1986 GOP President and a GOP Senate

1987 GOP President

1988 GOP President

1989 GOP President

1990 GOP President

1991 GOP President

1992 GOP President

1993 Dem President Dem House and Senate

1994 Dem President Dem House and Senate

1995 Dem President GOP House and Senate

1996 Dem President GOP House and Senate

1997 Dem President GOP House and Senate

1998 Dem President GOP House and Senate

1999 Dem President GOP House and Senate

2000 Dem President GOP House and Senate

2001 GOP President GOP House and Senate

2002 GOP President GOP House and Senate

2003 GOP President GOP House and Senate

2004 GOP President GOP House and Senate

2005 GOP President GOP House and Senate

2006 GOP President GOP House and Senate

2007 GOP President Dem House and Senate


21 posted on 07/06/2008 12:53:30 PM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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To: ex-snook
“There has been no double demand increase.”

Look up “price in-elasticity” and you will see why it takes only a small shortfall of supply to send oil prices skyrocketing.

22 posted on 07/06/2008 1:01:49 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: dragnet2
You don't see any threats from the Mideast oil sultans?

Not in this article.

23 posted on 07/06/2008 1:16:09 PM PDT by decimon
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To: trumandogz
Hopefully the Fed has finally gotten it and will neither raise or lower rates for a while.
If they raise the rates in a down economy we are screwed. If they lower rates the dollar suffers and oil goes up even more.
24 posted on 07/06/2008 1:17:17 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: dragnet2
Exactly, any time we can control our own destiny we should.
25 posted on 07/06/2008 1:19:02 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: kjo

Ben Bernanke is a monetary slut.


26 posted on 07/06/2008 1:19:24 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (McCain / Kerry '08! ************* McCain's Dream Ticket, only the names have been reversed)
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To: ex-snook

“Sinking dollar, rising prices.

Offshore drilling won’t reduce gas prices, stronger dollar will.

Offshore drilling is just election year BS.”

Exactly and isn’t it fascinating that the closer to the election we get, the lower the dollar sinks. Now, what group benefits from that? Working class Americans? Middle class Americans? College elite liberals?

And rank and file Republicans wonder why the GOP will get smoked in November!!!!!!!!!


27 posted on 07/06/2008 1:21:04 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: trumandogz

Eye opening!


28 posted on 07/06/2008 1:23:00 PM PDT by Cheetahcat
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Drill our own oil, watch the price fall.

But we are drilling our own oil now at full capacity and are booked up for years to come. So why is the price not doing what you claim it will?

29 posted on 07/06/2008 1:25:43 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Juan McCain....The lesser of Three Liberals.")
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Is there any oil at Gull Island?
30 posted on 07/06/2008 1:29:49 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: decimon

No end to the rise in oil prices? OK...then how about an end to OPEC?

Drill here, Drill now. We are already producing 40% of our domestic need. With expanded expoloration and new extraction technologies, we should be able to get to 85-90% or even more. Get the tree huggers and enviro-whackos out of the way. Add refinery capacity. Develop nuclear energy for electricity. Incentivize R&D into new energy sources.

It’s well past time... (thanks, Jimmuh).


31 posted on 07/06/2008 1:32:36 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion)
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To: decimon
Memo to Chakib Khelil enjoy since we have more Oil than you your laughter will be short lived: The time it takes us to remove the terrorists from the house is about it!
32 posted on 07/06/2008 1:37:11 PM PDT by Cheetahcat
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To: rodguy911

Yes, there is oil at Gull Island, but it is much like that at Endicott. It is an environmental nightmare.

The older part of the Prudhoe field has been running down the last ten years. When we first started, (1977) our production liner was 9 5/8, and we produced it with 7” tubing. Now it is down to 3 1/3” and we produce with 2 7/8 tubing.

Formation pressures have also fallen off drastically and we pump sea water into the formation to induce a flow. Which also causes further problems.


33 posted on 07/06/2008 1:38:16 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Juan McCain....The lesser of Three Liberals.")
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
"are booked up for years to come"

We can't make any more drilling rigs in a few years? More hand-wringing BS. We need to get off our collective duffs and get rollin'.

34 posted on 07/06/2008 1:44:43 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president! (it ain't over 'til it's over))
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
How much oil is at Gull Island? And what environmental problems keep us from tapping it?
35 posted on 07/06/2008 1:50:26 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: PubliusMM
We are already producing 40% of our domestic need. With expanded expoloration and new extraction technologies, we should be able to get to 85-90% or even more.

We'd have to find much cheaper methods of extracting the oil or we'd be using the more expensive oil while our competitors, like China, got the less expensive oil. That would be economic suicide.

36 posted on 07/06/2008 2:02:28 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon
OPEC Mulsim Cheatya Khilya warned Sunday that oil prices will continue to rise

You don't see any threats from the Mideast oil sultans?

Not in this article.

Oh, OK.

37 posted on 07/06/2008 2:03:47 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: decimon

The dollar will never recover with dems running congress. Never.


38 posted on 07/06/2008 2:09:10 PM PDT by Crawdad (If you're in a fair fight, your tactics suck.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
But we are drilling our own oil now at full capacity and are booked up for years to come. So why is the price not doing what you claim it will?

No, we aren't.


39 posted on 07/06/2008 2:13:44 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (Just say NObama!)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

A lot of things are not adding up, seems like there is oil everywhere and we are just not drilling it for some reason. The only thing that makes sense without getting conspiratorial is whacked out enviros doing the dirty work for the socialist dems.


40 posted on 07/06/2008 2:21:44 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: rodguy911
Sure would like an answer to # 35.
41 posted on 07/06/2008 2:23:13 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: decimon

Somebody please educate me. I thought a weak dollar only means rise in oil price in US domestic? But why do we see the rise of oil prices in other countries as well?


42 posted on 07/06/2008 2:26:46 PM PDT by paudio (Like it or not, 'conservatism' is a word with many meanings. Yours may be different from mine.)
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To: paudio

I’m no expert, but I seem to recall a thread a long time ago that said that Saudi (perhaps OPEC as a whole) only took U.S. $ for oil. (I think the thread was about them thinking of switching over to using the Euro).


43 posted on 07/06/2008 2:31:19 PM PDT by 21twelve (Don't wish for peace. Pray for Victory.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Could there be this much?

http://www.cabotia.com/energy-non-crisis-ch17.html

44 posted on 07/06/2008 2:35:34 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: 21twelve
Saudi (perhaps OPEC as a whole) only took U.S. $ for oil. (I think the thread was about them thinking of switching over to using the Euro).

Thanks. But if that's the case, I thought the country (whose currency is stronger compared to the US$) will pay cheaper price as now they have more US$ per one unit of whatever currency they have?

45 posted on 07/06/2008 2:38:49 PM PDT by paudio (Like it or not, 'conservatism' is a word with many meanings. Yours may be different from mine.)
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To: decimon

“....”The price of oil will rise again in the coming weeks. We have to follow the evolution of the dollar, because a one percent fall in the dollar means four dollars more on the price of oil,” Khelil, who is Algeria’s minister of energy and mines, told the independent daily....”

Do the math, how can 1%= a $4.00 increase in the cost of a barrel of oil? Even my bad math can not make any sense out of this crazy bastards claim.

$140 a barrell times 101%= $141.40, that is a change of $1.41 not $4.00.


46 posted on 07/06/2008 2:48:15 PM PDT by WellyP (How much does Huma know?)
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To: paudio

Yeah - you would think that. I don’t know. Then I wondered how much oil the U.S. consumes - I knew we were number one. A search brought up the following. I kept the China info. in as well as that is a huge part of the increase I think.

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The United States continued unchallenged as the world’s single largest oil-consuming nation in 2007, using almost one fourth of the global total at a rate of 20.7 million barrels daily.4 But U.S. oil consumption was virtually unchanged for the third year in a row, as rising oil prices discouraged demand despite three years of steady economic growth.5

China increased its petroleum consumption by 5.5 percent in 2007, up from 7.3 million barrels per day in 2006 to 7.7 million barrels.6 It now accounts for nearly 9 percent of the world’s total oil use.7 Over the past decade China has nearly doubled its oil consumption,


47 posted on 07/06/2008 2:56:19 PM PDT by 21twelve (Don't wish for peace. Pray for Victory.)
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To: Kolokotronis; ex-snook
I'm not at my own PC so I can't quote the argument for you, but there's a sound argument that says drilling and producing oil domestically will have the effect of strengthening our currency.

So, on top of that, just the mere declaration that we will drill (by Congress) will not only have an immediately psychological impact on the price of oil (lowering prices), but strengthen the dollar as well.

So the question is - why not drill?

Our Democrats are pushing for Marxist Socialism - nationalize oil production. Step in and provide Socialist solutions to the devalued dollar, make everyone dependent on government for survival.

48 posted on 07/06/2008 2:58:31 PM PDT by the anti-liberal (Write in: Fred Thompson)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Is that a map of where Republican Presidents and Republican Congresses have voted for 25 of the last 27 years to keep the Offshore Drilling Ban in place?


49 posted on 07/06/2008 3:22:54 PM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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To: decimon

As a general rule, costs of new technology tend to fall over time, as the technology matures. I believe the same would apply, to some degree, with new crude oil extraction techniques.
Regardless, there is a price point at which extraction processes are profitable. I submit that global markets, like crude, tend to factor in global availability along with global demand. Bringing additional supply into the marketplace would tend to push down prices. It might be that the downward price pressure would take prices below the breakeven of the new extraction process(es) but the supply/demand relationship would still be in play. Suppliers would withdraw from the market, supplies would fall, price would go up, suppliers would get back into the market at a profit point. There would, however, be an oscillation toward equilibrium.
The technology may need to be incentivized in some manner, for some period of time. I generally don’t support government participating in the marketplace, but this one may be an exception. Of course, the gubmint has pretty much screwed it up to this point.
I believe this is an important enough issue that we simply must move forward.

The fact that we currently produce a large portion of our crude oil needs still leaves a lot of oil to be sourced from beyond our borders. I’ve read that most of that oil comes to us from accpetable trading partners...Canada, Mexico, etc. However, to the extent that we are sourcing ANY crude oil from the Middle East, we are quite likely funding our enemy in the War on Terror. That is an untenable situiation, IMO. And may well be the strongest argument for developing additional domestic supplies.


50 posted on 07/06/2008 3:31:32 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion)
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