Posted on 07/06/2008 2:15:26 AM PDT by Coffee200am
Addressing the issue of anti-Islamic prejudice in the UK, a British government minister has said that the growing culture of hostility has led many Muslims to say they feel targeted like "the Jews of Europe."
Labor MP Shahid Malik, Britain's first Muslim government minister, made the statement in an interview with to be broadcast on Monday on the UK's Channel 4, to coincide with the third anniversary of the 7/7 bombings in London which killed 52 people.
Malik, appointed minister for international development by Prime Minister Gordon Brown last year, said it has somehow become legitimate to target Muslims in a way that would be unacceptable for any other minority.
"Somehow there's a message out there that it is OK to target people as long as it's Muslims, and you don't have to worry about the facts, and people will turn a blind eye," he told the Dispatches program.
Malik made clear that he was not equating the position with the Holocaust.
"I think most people would agree that if you ask Muslims today what do they feel like, they feel like the Jews of Europe," he said. "I don't mean to equate that with the Holocaust, but in the way that it was legitimate almost - and still is in some parts - to target Jews, many Muslims would say that we feel the exact same way."
The Channel 4 documentary, entitled "It Shouldn't Happen to a Muslim," will look at claims that negative attitudes to Muslims have become legitimated by think-tanks and the media who use language now being used by the far right.
He said that many British Muslims now felt like "aliens in their own country" and that he himself had been the target of racist incidents. The MP said he regularly receives anti-Muslim hate mail at his constituency office in Dewsbury, West Yorkshire, which was home to Mohammad Sidique Khan, the leader of the 7/7 suicide bombers.
To show how Muslims were being targeted, Malik used an example of a newspaper story that ran in the British press last December claiming that staff in a Dewsbury hospital had been ordered to turn the beds of Muslim patients towards Mecca five times a day.
"It's almost as if you don't have to check your facts when it comes to certain people, and you can just run with those stories," he said. "It makes Muslims feel like aliens in their own country. At a time when we want to engage with Muslims, actually the opposite happens."
A poll accompanying the program found that 51 percent of Britons blame Islam to some degree for the 7/7 attacks while more than a quarter of Muslims now believe Islamic values are not compatible with British ones. Eight out of 10 said they felt a marked increase in hostility toward their faith since the 2005 bombings, while 90% of Muslims said they still felt attached to Britain.
Former Metropolitan Police head of counter terrorism, Andy Hayman, who was Britain's most senior anti-terrorism officer until he resigned last December, is asked on the program why it is important to engage with Muslims who express extreme views.
"Because we're tackling head-on the people that we feel are at the heartbeat of this whole complex agenda," he said. "Not to have a dialogue with them would seem that we are apprehensive, we're scared, we're frightened... So even if it's appeasement in some quarters, that is still a conversation that is not being had and needs to be had."
Simon Woolley, a member of the government's task force tackling race inequality, concurred, saying: "On an almost daily basis, there is rampant Islamophobia in this country, the effect of which is not for our Muslim community to get closer to a sense of Britishness but to feel further away from a feeling of belonging in British society."
No, they don’t.
I believe Jews are the Jews of Europe!
Further proof that a person doesn’t need to know anything at all to be in politics.
Islam is not a race.
Lame liberal politician.They will NEVER CHANGE despite what spouts and touts Osbama
At some point after the 7/7 London bombings (I think it was soon after but I'm uncertain) a major polling firm conducted a poll of muslims residing in the UK and asked them two questions....1)Do you support or approve of the bombings of 7/7? and 2)Do you support or approve of the attacks of 9/11?
The results? Question #1....33% said yes.Question #2.....50% said yes.
Any other complaints,Mr Pigfornicator Minister?
Fixed it.
What do we do? you name it. They win and we lose with this type of atmosphere. They want our destructions for being Jewish, or Christian especially but all will Muslim or else s how they view the world
Judaism is not a race either.
Actually, this post gives me a lot of hope that the UK may yet find its way.
I think the phenomenon being discussed is a healthy sign — as long as (if there are any) moderate Muslims remain silent, the society at large *must* be suspicious of them all.
Here's a Hint: Never
Except for all that "hygeine" stuff. Yep...
Oh, and without the acclimation into European society to make up an inseparable part of their culture.
And I almost forgot, forget about the part of overachieving sucess in schools, businesses and universities.
I could go on, but what's the point? I want to keep my breakfast down.
ought to see what i think of the mooselimb murdering scum.
Did I miss something about the Jews beheading nonappeasers, or mudering women and children, suicide bombing innocents, etc? Somehow, there just seems to be no connection.
No doubt Obama agrees with this ridiculous, outrageous statement.
kewl, when do we get to put 6 million of them into the ovens?
This is more appeasement rubbish from left-wing useful idiots & jihadist fellow travelers.
“... a poll of muslims residing in the UK and asked them two questions....1)Do you support or approve of the bombings of 7/7? and 2)Do you support or approve of the attacks of 9/11?
The results? Question #1....33% said yes.Question #2.....50% said yes.”
You’ve hit the sweet spot of the problem. The Muslim community have nobody to blame but themselves as long as so many of their silent majority support the jihadists.
They need to reform that whole attitude by talking sense to each other until they begin to ostracize the bad guys from within their religion. Until then, they will continue being ostracized from without.
| Moslems murder Europeans in England.
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Europeans murder innocent Jews.
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| Moslems murder Europeans in Spain
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Europeans murder innocent Jews
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| Moslems murder Europeans in France
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Europeans murder innocent Jews
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| Islam Aspiring to Hitler (which is why they are so beloved by the EU, in the first place)
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Europeans murder innocent Jews
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The poor things feel oppressed because their belief system encourages the mass murder of Jews and Christians and normal people don’t like them?
Too bleedin’ bad!
Their belief system is not compatible with civilization. It is the very opposite of civilization.
then round them all up and let them get the full feeling...
But how could that be when according to the islamo-fascists the holocaust never occured?
Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system. Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components. The religious component is a beard for all the other components. Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called ‘religious rights'.
When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to ‘the reasonable’ Muslim demands for their ‘religious rights,’ they also get the other components under the table. Here’s how it works (percentages source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)).
As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:
At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:
From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. (United States).
At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world. When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions (Paris –car-burnings). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats (Amsterdam - Mohammed cartoons).
After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:
At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:
From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:
After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:
100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace — there’s supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:
Of course, that’s not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons.
"Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world and all of us against the infidel."
– Leon Uris, ‘The Haj’.
It is good to remember that in many, many countries, such as France, the Muslim populations are centered around ghettos based on their ethnicity. Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. Therefore, they exercise more power than their national average would indicate.
Of course they do.
Sadly, however, their fate is very unlikely to be the same, however.
Not nearly enough.
And I would have no problem whatsoever, justifying it to history...
Fair warning:
To any moonbat who feels like challenging that claim. I will list muslims atrocities worldwide, just since 911!
For that to be a valid comparison, they would have had to lived in peace among their European neighbors for centuries, contributing mightily to science, medicine, art, and all the other achievements of civilization, minding their own business, not trying to inflict their medieval way of life on their compatriots, and patriotically serving in the military services of their homelands. And then even if all that were true, it would be an obscenity to compare the historical suffering of the Jewish people in Europe to the minor indignities a Muslim of today faces.
Except for the pogroms, the confiscation of their property, the forced baptism of their children, the laws forbiddimg them to own land, the mass expulsions, the Kristallnacht, the deportations, and the death camps.
Oh, and not to mention the Archbishop of Canterbury and the Chief Judge of the House of Lords recommending that halachah (Jewish law) should become the law of the land...(You mean they never said that? Oops, my bad.)
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