Posted on 07/05/2008 12:48:16 PM PDT by Coffee200am
Presumptive Republican U.S. presidential nominee John McCain told Mexican leaders security at the border is a precondition of immigration reform.
McCain ended a visit to Colombia and Mexico Thursday, The Arizona Republic reported.
I believe we must have comprehensive immigration reform. The American people want our borders secured first, McCain said at a Mexico City news conference. That will require some walls. It will require virtual fences. It will require high-technology equipment. We must secure our borders, and then we will address the issue of comprehensive immigration reform.
McCain was one of the authors of an immigration reform bill that failed to get any traction in Congress, and caused him to lose support among illegal immigration hard-liners. Since then, he has toughened his stance on the issue.
McCain, accompanied by his wife, Cindy, and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, also visited the Basilica of Our Lady of Guadalupe, the most important Catholic shrine in Mexico.
Blah, blah, blah. We KNOW what mclame has in store for us regarding ILLEGALS==and it won’t be pretty.
Virtual fences, imagined by virtual conservatives,
will stop virtually none of the Crimigrants.
I like Jebb Bush, but immigration is not exactly his strong point.
I suppose it’s a step forward that McCain has been brought around to the point where he thinks it’s worth lying to the conservative base instead of just sticking another finger in their eye.
But a trip to Mexico and Guatemala may not have been the best place to do it.
Do not accept just the state governors certifying that their borders are secure when the govt announces it.
Trust but verify with citizen groups. Meaning that citizens groups should be included in the certification, such as the Minutemen, and some of the larger anti-illegal immigration groups.
They will never secure the border unless it's forced on them!
Ya, YA,
Border Security first, kind of like we have now. Don’t worry Juan, they can all sneak over later when it gets dark.
“Comprehensive immigration reform will be my top priority yesterday, today, and tomorrow!” —John McCain in Mexico City.
I believe precious little of what McCain has to say because his history in our government tells me something completely different than his current words. If I’m not mistaken, McCain has been a member of the senate since his amnesty plan went down in flames and he has done absolutely nothing to make the border more secure ... he just talks about doing something. I’m not impressed.
Sort of lends a whole new meaning to the term “Cap and Trade”.
I saw McCain portrayed on Spanish tv news. He was saying how great relations were between the US and Mexico. His example: Well, it was that Hispanic culture was everywhere in the US. Hmmm, does that mean American culture was everywhere in Mexico. McCain is a political lifetime Multi-culti, anti-English as a unifying language guy. That’s it. Why Romney and the others didn’t pound him on this, means that their NOT the Presidential candidate and McCain is. GOP, goes right for the capillary.
Did McCain tell Mexico to stop encouraging Mexican citizens to emmigrate illegally to the USA?
Then, he's not serious about controlling the flow of Mexican illegal aliens.
John’s refusal to criticize Juan Fernandez’ Mexico First policy is all I need to know about this bastard.
Let’s face it, the borders have already been secured to John’s satisfaction, and the fist 100 days of his presidency will see comprehensive immigration reform.
Another way of putting it is, the first 100 days of McCain’s presidency will see comprehensive United States cohesion reform.
John can name that tune in under 100 days. I can name it right now.
Hey John, instead of the same old rhetoric, how about some innovation?
Duncan Hunter promised us a wall in six months if he were elected president. An admiral and worthy idea.
How 'bout you get with Duncan, discuss, and then announce one of your first tasks as president will be to appoint Duncan to a Special Presidential Commission to build the fence in six months.
Git 'er done!
Nah, this is way over the head of an illegal-lover like you.
Rumor has it that Mr. McCain was actually spotted "handing out invitations and road maps" (per a USA Today/Gannett photo that appeared with a recent story) (source: [1] , [2]).
As FReeper raybbr insightfully posted: The sense of entitlement extends to every Mexican citizen, politician and official. They have come to believe they are entitled to participate in our government, our security, our prosperity, our legislative process and society. This is what years of indifference to the invasion has wrought and will take years to reverse. Obama and McCain endless pandering to the illegals will only strengthen that sense of entitlement.
Stories of Mexicanos interference in American justice are horrific.......presaging the Third World they are building on US soil.
Americans see the horrendous latino takeover in our everyday lives---in stores, churches, schools---everywhere. The arrogance and contempt these lettuce pickers and burger flippers display toward Americans is palpable.
Viscious latino drug cartels are setting themselves up for mob rule on US soil. Even as we type, Mexican and Columbian drug cartels are waging war in border towns to carve out their turf.
Drug cartels envision huge profits now that Mexican trucks are hauling on US highways--- the trucks are easily loaded up with drugs and illegal aliens (drug runners) with no fear of L/E-----b/c Bush authorized this atrocity.
The longterm plan is to takeover the US government to change the foundation of our Nation from the rule of law to mob rule.
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The US is overrun by Third World invaders, calculatedly organizing into a latino voting bloc. Corrupt illegals know all the tricks: infiltrating US agencies, bribing US officials, buying forged/fraudulent documents, drivers licenses, multiple stolen IDs, fraudulently registering to vote in several precincts; illegally voting absentee then voting several times in different precincts.
McCain will suckup for illegal latino votes........like a dry drunk with his mouth pressed to a beer keg.
Look for McC's October Surprise---- a signing ceremony to turnover the SW as a token of his total allegiance to Mexico.
McC might order US L/E to escort drug cartels crossing the border to vote. Columbian Drug cartels will commandeer another bunch at gunpoint, carting truckloads of drug pushers over the border to vote illregally.
These are the votes McC wants.
“....GOP goes straight for the capillary”.
Funny, sad and true.
bttt
“McCain tells Mexican leaders to their faces - the border must be secured first.”
Yeah, with a wink and a nod.
After video of the first couple of guys missing the mattress hits the airwaves and the internet, I would almost guarantee that there will be a line of folks begging to be allowed to drive, walk, or hitchhike across the border.
I believe McAmnesty about as much as when Bush said eight years ago that he was going to work on comprehensive immigration reform.
You just can’t admit he isn’t backing down from his pledge of securing the border first.
So you prefer Obama? (I doubt it.) What is your alternative.
Did you read the article? He did exactly what you suggested.
I never said I prefer obama, Mr. elect mccain pinger. I like many, will be holding my nose and my breath at the ballot box and hope he doesn’t kill the US like obama would most certainly do.
He “reportedly” assured Hispanic in a private meeting” This you believe?
And his saying he now wants the borders secure before and immigration reform, you do not believe?
Other then you simply dislike McCain, what evidence have you that one is a lie and the other the truth?
Bottom line is the fence IS being built and the border IS being secured. Illegals are leaving the country because there is a crackdown on employers and the actual influx of illegals has been halved or more by all accounts.
For McCain, the lesson learned is secure the borders first and then grant amnesty to the 12 to 20 million illegals already here who will in turn sponsor another 66 million to 100 million more LEGAL IMMIGRANTS thru chain migration, i.e., family reunification. If that happens, this country is finished. Amnesty is forever.
Congress is putting a halt to it. Chairman Price is holding it up.
Border Fence Construction Not Moving Fast Enough for Rep. Hunter
I haven't heard any McCain condemnation of Price.
Illegals are leaving the country because there is a crackdown on employers and the actual influx of illegals has been halved or more by all accounts.
We are still apprehending about a million people a year at the southern border trying to enter illegally. Another 500,000 to 1 million get through. Attrition thru enforcement works, but again, McCain has been MIA on that strategy. He also voted against making English the official language of this country.
John McCain, Multiculturalist Immigration is just one problem
Do you seriously expect to go from whatever the number of illegals were coming in a year ago to zero immediately?
There is progress and it is substantial
http://www.nationalledger.com/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi?archive=24&num=19915
Now, you are hedging, and parsing.
You stated that the border is secure. You stated the number of illegals entering has been halved.
I contend that having thousands of illegals still flooding across the border does NOT signify a ‘secure border’.
And that is the problem with McCain’s position: what exactly is the definition of a ‘secure border’ and what are the provisions to make it that way? Those are the provisions, means, methods that McCain has never identified. So, by your reasoning, cutting the flood of illegals in half implies that the border is now secure. McCain would love that reasoning. He might make you head of Homeland Security for that.
ping
Well no, I did NOT state the border was secure. What I said was “the border IS BEING secured”
That is a difference with a distinction, wouldn’t you say?
You think? After promoting the McCain-Kennedy bill in the teeth of the base, and refusing to back down, and still keeping a top member of La Raza on his campaign staff while firing staffers because the Democrats complain about them, he has a lot of explaining to do.
I read his statement and what it seems to say is, “I will build the fence and then give them all amnesty.”
Sorry, but he has a long history on immigration, all of it is bad, and getting even worse in the past year or two.
I would not even waste my time trusting MCCain on this issue.
I wouldn’t even spend one minute thinking he will do anything but grant amnesty.
People who think otherwise are sadly, very naive.
McCain has been having many private meetings kissing the hispanic patooty.
Have you not been paying attention?
You McCainiacs are pathetic.
You have the typical "my way or the highway" mind set and like other McCain haters cannot see past the end of your idelogical nose to the looming disaster of a Hussein presidency vs that of a McCain one.
Is he pretending not to GET IT, or is he a complete moron?
“McCain tells Mexican leaders to their faces - the border must be secured first.”
and then what?
Poll: Voters Unaware of Candidates Immigration Positions; McCain Supporters Farthest Off the Mark
Yay,okay.
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