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Black, Hispanic Gangs Kill Each Other Over Turf (Coast to Coast)
worldnetdaily.com ^ | July 05, 2008 | staff

Posted on 07/05/2008 6:39:34 AM PDT by kellynla

WASHINGTON – Latino gang members were hunting for black people in the Harbor Gateway community of Los Angeles.

Age was not a factor. Neither was gender.

Cheryl Green, 14, was on her scooter, talking to friends when a hail of bullets killed the 8th-grader and injured several other black youngsters.

That was December 2006. But the race-motivated carnage has only increased since then, say law-enforcement authorities from coast to coast – with Hispanic gangs targeting blacks and black gang reciprocating as their communities are increasing surrounded by the exploding population of Hispanics, much of it fueled by illegal immigration.

In Harbor Gateway, the dividing line is 206th Street. Blacks understand it is not safe to cross over to the Hispanic side and Hispanics know it is not safe to cross over to the black side.

Federal prosecutors last year charged members of a Latino gang with conducting a violent campaign to drive blacks out of the Florence-Firestone neighborhood in L.A. County, which resulted in some 20 homicides over several years.

L.A. County Sheriff Lee Baca wrote in a newspaper editorial that "some of L.A.'s so-called gangs are really no more than loose-knit bands of blacks or Latinos roaming the streets looking for people of the other color to shoot."

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The face of MS-13!

Anyone who thinks that by just eliminating the government benefits for illegals will encourage them to go back to their countries of origin need only look at the fact that gangs like MS-13 are in more than 42 states and expanding. MS-13 is accepting members and they don't care if you are "legal!"

1 posted on 07/05/2008 6:39:34 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: gubamyster; HiJinx; Travis McGee

ping


2 posted on 07/05/2008 6:40:02 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

So black and mexican gangs are killing each other - good.


3 posted on 07/05/2008 6:41:30 AM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: kellynla

The libs will find a way to blame this on that eeeevvvvilll majority.


4 posted on 07/05/2008 6:42:50 AM PDT by BooksForTheRight.com (Fight liberal lies with knowledge. Read conservative books and articles.)
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To: svcw

They are killing other people as well.


5 posted on 07/05/2008 6:44:32 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: svcw

At least they are keeping whitey out of it


6 posted on 07/05/2008 6:45:29 AM PDT by mouse1
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To: AppyPappy

exactly, like innocent people


7 posted on 07/05/2008 6:46:42 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: kellynla; DCPatriot
This is what DCPatriot and other advocates for the illegal alien criminals have brought us. Our generation is watching, rather silently, while our streets are being turned into war zones. Our children are being raped and murdered. They're bankrupting our hospitals. They bring with them disease and pests that we'd once wiped out in the US, and live by undercutting wages for low skilled American workers. Our school classrooms are being infested with children of illegals who drag down their classes because they cannot function in our primary language.

They are a plague. We either eliminate them or they will eliminate us, one way or another.

8 posted on 07/05/2008 6:51:07 AM PDT by RavenATB
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To: BooksForTheRight.com
The libs will find a way to blame this on that eeeevvvvilll majority.

Gang bangers acting like dimocrats.

9 posted on 07/05/2008 6:51:53 AM PDT by evad (.!.)
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To: mouse1
At least they are keeping whitey out of it

FOR NOW!!!

10 posted on 07/05/2008 7:00:00 AM PDT by reg45
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To: RavenATB
Our school classrooms are being infested with children of illegals who drag down their classes because they cannot function in our primary language.

The children are generally fully bilingual; it's the attitudes with which they've been indoctriated that are the problem.

11 posted on 07/05/2008 7:07:25 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW!)
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To: kellynla

“The face of MS-13”

When the time comes, it will be easy to round them up.

They are wearing their “uniforms” on their skins.


12 posted on 07/05/2008 7:09:56 AM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: RavenATB
We either eliminate them or they will eliminate us, one way or another.

History is nothing but a record of competition between groups & individuals over scarce resources, including power, wealth & territory.

Just because a people withdraw from the ongoing constant struggle doesn't mean the other side does. Witness what is happening in both the UK & US; PC has beaten down the will of the people to compete survive.

We will only fight back when our back is to the wall (many generations from now), with the same inevitable consequences recorded throughout history: Western Civ wins, but at the cost of essentially annihilating the enemy.

13 posted on 07/05/2008 7:12:01 AM PDT by semantic
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To: RavenATB
This is what DCPatriot and other advocates for the illegal alien criminals have brought us. Our generation is watching, rather silently, while our streets are being turned into war zones. Our children are being raped and murdered. They're bankrupting our hospitals. They bring with them disease and pests that we'd once wiped out in the US, and live by undercutting wages for low skilled American workers. Our school classrooms are being infested with children of illegals who drag down their classes because they cannot function in our primary language. They are a plague. We either eliminate them or they will eliminate us, one way or another.

Bump! (can't wait to see the quisling's reply)

14 posted on 07/05/2008 7:13:07 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: RavenATB

18-abr-2008
The People’s Summit - Parallel to SPP Meeting in New Orleans
Check out the response to the “three amigos” meeting next week in New Orleans. Behind closed doors they will make decisions about the future of North America...
http://americasmexico.blogspot.com/2008/04/peoples-summit-parallel-to-spp-meeting.html

A Short History

The Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP) was launched in Waco, Texas in March 2005. The heads of state of the three NAFTA countries, other government officials, and business groups have met periodically to hammer out agreements to speed up integration and increase security. This has been done with almost no public input or Congressional oversight.

Since the SPP is not a law or a treaty or even a signed agreement, there are no formal mechanisms of accountability built in. It is essentially a “gentleman’s agreement” between the executive branches and major corporations in the three nations.
http://americas.irc-online.org/am/4497


15 posted on 07/05/2008 7:14:42 AM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: kellynla
Surenos have declared a race war for few years now.

But we need more illegal aliens because they do jobs Americans won't do. /sarcasm

16 posted on 07/05/2008 7:16:56 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: Fishrrman
When the time comes, it will be easy to round them up.

The "time" was years ago. The "time" was when they were crossing our border.

The U.S. government's (led by Bush) policy on the invasion is the same as Obama's policy on terrorists: "After Americans die we will prosecute."

17 posted on 07/05/2008 7:17:54 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: svcw
So black and mexican gangs are killing each other - good
Perhaps you didn't read the part where they were killing innocent people too-- like little girls on sidewalks. If they were only taking each other out, I could agree with you.
18 posted on 07/05/2008 7:19:35 AM PDT by Clara Lou (~sigh~ '08)
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To: kellynla
Anyone who thinks that by just eliminating the government benefits for illegals will encourage them to go back to their countries of origin need only look at the fact that gangs like MS-13 are in more than 42 states and expanding. MS-13 is accepting members and they don't care if you are "legal!"

One FReeper voiced an opinion that I felt was far more in line with the final agenda of the left. Socialist democrats in the United States see the use of wide-spread racial gang activity as cultural "shock troops" on the masses. One benefit is that they serve as a constant distraction to the public who will call for further government action, resulting in expansion of government powers. Next, they serve as a means to keep people focused on one another, and not the government robbing the people blind and savagely curtailing their freedoms.

These presence and growth of these gangs are not an "accident", they are the roots of the socialist army.

19 posted on 07/05/2008 7:20:46 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: mouse1

Don’t draw any comfort from that. That will change as soon as there’s a benefit to them to change it.


20 posted on 07/05/2008 7:21:04 AM PDT by Clara Lou (~sigh~ '08)
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To: kellynla

No surprise that illegals are drawn to illegal gangs and commit illegal activties. More power to them if they keep it between themselves! (grin)


21 posted on 07/05/2008 7:29:34 AM PDT by CalifChris
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To: kellynla
Immigration stasis might eventually solve the problem. Hear me out: one of the things that always disgusted hardcore Marxists is that once the poverty-stricken downtrodden reach the relative comfort of lower-middle class, they lose their revolutionary spirit. They don't want to go out and kill in the name of the proletariat. They want to stay home, drink beer, and watch TV.

If our cities could just settle into little balkanized neighborhoods without one population growing exponentially (right now, that would be the Hispanic population growing due to constant immigration) they might eventually settle into stable, very segregated neighborhoods.

From there, if they reach a certain comfort level, peace might descend.

Now this part will sound really cynical, but I'm going by what I've observed: Most poor people are poor because they are easily satisfied. If they have a roof over their head, food on the table, and some electronic toys to play with after work, they are pretty content. Add beer and pot, and you have a quiet, contented populace. They'll never be anything but maids, valets, mechanics, and cashiers, but not everybody searches for fulfillment in their jobs.

So to summarize my rather lengthy exposition, I think if we could control the border, the situation might eventually stabilize.

22 posted on 07/05/2008 7:30:17 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: CalifChris
activties = activities (I wish I'd click on that spell button more often) grin
23 posted on 07/05/2008 7:31:30 AM PDT by CalifChris (Keep the racebaiters away from me)
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To: Caipirabob

“One benefit is that they serve as a constant distraction to the public”

President Bush Participates in Joint Press
April 22, 2008

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2008/04/20080422-4.html
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To make our borders smarter and more secure, we are coordinating our long-term infrastructure plans and are taking steps to enhance services, and reduce bottlenecks and congestion at major border crossings. In this regard, we are working to coordinate the efforts of federal agencies to enhance capacity at major border crossing points, such as Detroit-Windsor and San Diego-Tijuana. We are deepening cooperation on the development and application of technology to make our border both smarter and more secure, as well as strengthen trusted traveler and shipper programs. We will seek to allocate resources efficiently so as to avoid unnecessary inspections.


24 posted on 07/05/2008 7:32:08 AM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: kellynla
gangs like MS-13 are in more than 42 states

MS-13

MS-13 primarily targets the Latino community in urban and rural areas of both North and South Carolina, specifically illegal aliens who fear deportation and as a result often don’t report the crimes.

(Richland) March 3, 2006 - Richland County investigators are warning people about a fast-growing gang called MS-13. The violent group is striking fear in Columbia's Hispanic neighborhoods, and beyond.

25 posted on 07/05/2008 7:32:53 AM PDT by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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To: svcw

I’m not happy about a fourteen year old girl being shot. I don’t take any comfort in this kind of violence. When irrational violence spreads, the whole society is put in danger.


26 posted on 07/05/2008 7:42:07 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Does Obama know ANYONE who likes America, capitalism, or white people?)
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To: RavenATB


27 posted on 07/05/2008 7:46:16 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: popdonnelly
Who is? I am not.
If you are choosing to live in these drug infested slim holes of neighborhoods there are going to be tragedies. I have seen people in neighborhoods make excuses for gangs over and over, when an innocent gets killed or injured they scream bloody murder, yet they stay and continue to make excuses.
28 posted on 07/05/2008 7:46:24 AM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: kellynla

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/04/john-mccain-la-razas-voice-in-washington/


29 posted on 07/05/2008 7:51:25 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: kellynla

Isn’t multiculturalism wonderful? These people have done so much to enrich our nation.


30 posted on 07/05/2008 7:51:48 AM PDT by DemonDeac
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To: svcw

They are killing 8th grade girls riding scooters.


31 posted on 07/05/2008 7:53:59 AM PDT by Tribune7 (How is inflicting pain and death on an innocent, helpless human being for profit, moral?)
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To: Tribune7
Yes, and it is tragic. Move out of these neighborhoods and stop making excuses for these thugs.
32 posted on 07/05/2008 7:55:36 AM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: kellynla

It’s no secret that the black gangs and Hispanic gangs have been fighting for years. It has just finally been reported by the MSM. The politicians oppose cracking down on these gangs and favor “outreach” type programs to the community. These embolden the gangs and make matters worse.


33 posted on 07/05/2008 7:55:44 AM PDT by detective
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To: DemonDeac
Multiculturalism is something cooked up by Marxist academics in opposition to our traditional "melting pot", "E Pluribus Unum" ideal, and is meant to weaken our nation.

It is evil.

34 posted on 07/05/2008 8:00:16 AM PDT by Tribune7 (How is inflicting pain and death on an innocent, helpless human being for profit, moral?)
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To: A_perfect_lady

“So to summarize my rather lengthy exposition, I think if we could control the border, the situation might eventually stabilize.”

I doubt it. We still have 1,200,000 or more coming in legally now, then the 500,000+ (who knows) that sneak in illegally. The only thing that would cause a point of stasis would be a severe cutback of immigration as was done in the 1920s, to around 200,000 per year or fewer.

And, the huge number of illegals in the country can and probably will keep most of the pathologies they bring going for another couple of generations. And we’ll never completely cutoff illegal entries.


35 posted on 07/05/2008 8:01:24 AM PDT by Will88
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To: KC_Conspirator
The brown versus black violence is a favorite topic of the media , even among conservatives and people who want to generate more support for law enforcement . This is another orchestrated dodge to avoid responsibility within each community . These inter-racial killings are vastly out numbered by black on black crime and the war between the Surenos and Nortenos is far more volatile .
36 posted on 07/05/2008 8:03:34 AM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know)
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To: svcw
Move out of these neighborhoods and stop making excuses for these thugs.

Not making excuses, just trying to give you constructive criticism is reading comprehension. What you said was "So black and mexican gangs are killing each other - good.". What I pointed out was that they were killing innocent girls. That's not the same thing and I'm glad you understand that is tragic.

37 posted on 07/05/2008 8:05:33 AM PDT by Tribune7 (How is inflicting pain and death on an innocent, helpless human being for profit, moral?)
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To: Tribune7

“Multiculturalism is something cooked up by Marxist academics in opposition to our traditional “melting pot”, “E Pluribus Unum” ideal, and is meant to weaken our nation.”

I believe there is a degree of truth to that, that some want to weaken the US, and particularly traditional patriotism, by bringing in more and more foreigners who will not share those beliefs.

But there is a long list of open borders (or very lax immigration enforcement) advocates, and they have every sort of motive from wanting cheap labor, and cheap votes, and more Catholics in the pews, do gooders who think US residency and citizenship is a gift they have to offer the world’s poor, and those who want more their kind to increase their numbers and political power, etc., etc.


38 posted on 07/05/2008 8:07:48 AM PDT by Will88
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To: kellynla
Bookmark these maps because they show where the majority of violent homicides in the US are originating from.

Over the five years ending in 1997, the Justice Department says, there was an average of 36,000 firearms-related deaths a year. (Fifty-one percent were suicides, and 44 percent homicides.) _______________________________________________________________

These maps are from the article titled "Anti-gun Promo Blackfires"

I think perhaps it should have been entitled, "The African Americans are slaughtering each other in our US Cities"

Baltimore, PROPER, which is reflected on the map has 64.34% Black or African American, 31.63% White.

_______________________________________________________________

This Baltimore Sun map shows a terrible problem, but does not clarify who the murderers are.

Baltimore Sun map of PEOPLE murdered, 2007:

_______________________________________________________________

Baltimore Sun map of BLACKS murdered, 2007: (264)

_______________________________________________________________

Baltimore Sun map of WHITES murdered, 2007: (12)

Of the 12, 6 were killed *downtown* probably while buying drugs. _______________________________________________________________

That's right a small percentage of people, generally gangs and drug dealers, in our large cities are causing the majority of the gun related homicides in the US. Do not allow this data to be covered up or hidden. Do not allow the gun control nutcases to take away your self defense weapons.

SOURCE: http://essentials.baltimoresun.com/micro_sun/homicides/
Baltimore, PROPER, Population 651,154
Baltimore, greater metropolitan area, Population 5.1 Million

Graduation & gunfire: Student shot in back minutes after ceremony

Posted by Shabba Rommel 09:08 AM, 06/18/2008

Like Franknstein and Bill Cosby said, where is all the discipline in the Black Community? Where is Al Sharpton & Jesse Jackson when their “community” really needs them? From teenage gangs killing innocent victims in Septa terminals to this, many in the Black community are simply out of control. Fortunately (or unfortunately for them) a majority of their victims are their own. The media perpetuates this by glorifying hiphop and the “gangsta” lifestyle. Blacks are the only minority specifically protected by law and many STILL can’t get their act together in society. All other minorities, including Asian and Latino (and even now with the success of the Native Americans) manage to provide for themselves and their families and successfully integrate into the American society. Slavery isn’t an excuse anymore…that died about 100 yrs ago…that is just an excuse for the desperate and frankly Native American’s had it 1000x worse. There are Black leaders all across the county in business and government and now there is one who is successfully running for President, the only racism that exists is that which a minority brings upon itself.

http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20080618_GRADUATION___GUNFIRE.html?viewAll=Y&text=#comments

39 posted on 07/05/2008 8:11:36 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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To: A_perfect_lady
“I think if we could control the border, the situation might eventually stabilize.”

We need to SECURE BOTH BORDERS.

“one of the things that always disgusted hardcore Marxists is that once the poverty-stricken downtrodden reach the relative comfort of lower-middle class, they lose their revolutionary spirit. They don't want to go out and kill in the name of the proletariat.”

Since the influx & proliferation of illegal drugs and the HUGE profits that can be and ARE available from their import; America has become a cesspool of crime/gangs/illegals.

“Most poor people are poor because they are easily satisfied”

Without sounding “Clinton”; it depends on what you call “poor” LOL
Even the “poor” in this country have availability to food, education, medical care & shelter assistance.
The problem we have with illegals are that they come to this country, take advantage of our generosity, kill Americans(more have been killed in America by illegals than in the wars in Iraq & Afghanistan combined!) and with 300K foreigners incarcerated; American taxpayers shouldn't have to pay to incarcerate other countries’ criminals. It's not like we are long on cell space and short on American criminals!

DEPORT ALL ILLEGALS & SECURE BOTH BORDERS

40 posted on 07/05/2008 8:13:14 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Tribune7

Sorry I did not men “you” stop making excuses, I meant the people in the neighborhoods.


41 posted on 07/05/2008 8:13:22 AM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: kellynla

Welcome to Amexica!


42 posted on 07/05/2008 8:15:51 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: A_perfect_lady
They will never be anything but "mechanics"......

Oh really...I know a mechanic that probably could buy you...lock stock and barrel.

He will laugh when I tell him....he hasn't amounted to much.

LOL!!

43 posted on 07/05/2008 8:16:20 AM PDT by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: B4Ranch
Over the five years ending in 1997, the Justice Department says, there was an average of 36,000 firearms-related deaths a year. (Fifty-one percent were suicides, and 44 percent homicides.) _______________________________________________________________

If you take out the Arkancides....that would probably only be about 39% suicides.

44 posted on 07/05/2008 8:18:55 AM PDT by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: kellynla
Heaven forbid if a "Cyrus" comes along and tries to unite them:

"The problem in the past has been the man turning us against one another. We have been unable to see the truth, because we have fighting for ten square feet of ground, our turf, our little piece of turf. That's crap, brothers! The turf is ours by right, because it's our turn. All we have to do is keep up the general truce. We take over one borough at a time. Secure our territory... secure our turf... because it's all our turf!"

45 posted on 07/05/2008 8:23:06 AM PDT by dfwgator ( This tag blank until football season.)
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To: svcw
I meant the people in the neighborhoods.

I agree with that 100 percent.

46 posted on 07/05/2008 8:24:55 AM PDT by Tribune7 (How is inflicting pain and death on an innocent, helpless human being for profit, moral?)
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To: kellynla

MS-13=Al-Qaida: Treat both as what they are-Terrorists!


47 posted on 07/05/2008 8:27:11 AM PDT by getarope (I don't like McCain, but I'll pick him over Osama Obama ANYTIME!)
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To: Will88
I believe there is a degree of truth to that, that some want to weaken the US, and particularly traditional patriotism, by bringing in more and more foreigners who will not share those beliefs.

It's not that they just want to bring in foreigners, it's that they tell them they don't have to learn English, they don't have to pledge allegiance to the flag and they want them to be allowed to vote even if they are here illegally, much less citizens.

48 posted on 07/05/2008 8:28:44 AM PDT by Tribune7 (How is inflicting pain and death on an innocent, helpless human being for profit, moral?)
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To: Fishrrman
When the time comes, it will be easy to round them up. They are wearing their “uniforms” on their skins.

Be that as it may, they are not in the least constrained by considerations of "legality" and will not go quietly. MS-13 is not just some bunch of snotnoses, but a rough bunch by most any standard.

49 posted on 07/05/2008 8:34:49 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Osage Orange

If a mechanic owns his own business, I’m sure he does well. Undoubtedly better than I do. I apologize for insulting mechanics.


50 posted on 07/05/2008 8:39:31 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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