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Save the Press (Are newspapers history?)
International Herald Tribune ^ | July 3, 2008 | Timothy Egan

Posted on 07/04/2008 6:20:58 AM PDT by kellynla

On the lobby wall of the newspaper where I got my first reporting job are the Thomas Jefferson words that U.S. journalists like to trot out as America's Independence Day nears:

"Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter."

Of course, Jefferson also said the only reliable truths in newspapers were the advertisements, and that he was happiest when not reading the papers.

But as to his iconic quote, it's no secret that we're trending toward the former. And anyone who cheers the collapse of the newspaper industry should consider why Jefferson put aside his distaste for the vitriol and nonsense of the press for the larger principle of healthy democracies needing informed citizens.

Last week, almost 1,000 jobs were eliminated in the American newspaper industry, perhaps the bloodiest week yet of a year where many papers are fighting for their lives.

You read about the great names in American journalism - the Baltimore Sun, the Boston Globe, the San Jose Mercury News - as if reading the obituary page. Rich U.S. cities like San Francisco can no longer support a profitable daily paper.

Columnists, reporters, editors, cartoonists and photographers who brought to life the daily narrative of a city or region have been swept aside. What started as layoffs and buyouts is edging toward closures and bankruptcies.

And here's the great paradox: All of this bad news is coming at a time when the audience and reach of many newspapers has never been greater. The Internet may kill the daily newspaper as we know it, but it's allowed some papers to increase their readership by tenfold.

(Excerpt) Read more at iht.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: business; newspapers; press

1 posted on 07/04/2008 6:20:59 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: kellynla

It’s like Rush said, the newspapers will examine every reason for their failure, except their own content.


2 posted on 07/04/2008 6:26:06 AM PDT by NurdlyPeon (New tag line in progress.)
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To: kellynla
Columnists, reporters, editors, cartoonists and photographers ... have been swept aside.

I'm trying to see the down side to this....

3 posted on 07/04/2008 6:28:31 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: kellynla

the los angels times reads like your old leftist college professor’s dribble.

i’m tired of hearing about the homeless.

the truth is: many are psychiatric patients. in the ‘70s liberals wanted them out of hospitals. and state govt’s saw an opportunity to cut their expenses.

many are alcoholics and drug addicts.

where are bill gates and warren buffett?


4 posted on 07/04/2008 6:33:30 AM PDT by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: kellynla

That’s alot of Black Oblack campaign workers. Perhaps they could try reporting the Truth and see how that works. Works pretty good for Rush and Fox?

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters


5 posted on 07/04/2008 6:34:30 AM PDT by bray (Drill Congress!!!)
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To: kellynla

I won’t be happy until the New York Times closes its doors. That will be a great day for America.


6 posted on 07/04/2008 6:36:37 AM PDT by TonyM (E)
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To: kellynla
And I should give a s*** less. I hope all of them turn to dust and blow away in the wind. Screw the press. They are free to print all the lies they want without any other voice but talk radio to put them down. Their aiders and abettors in Congress and in the Marxist movement should be buying them, but even they don't.
7 posted on 07/04/2008 6:37:11 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (Congress in session, the White House occupied - Your freedom, liberty and rights are in jeopardy.)
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To: kellynla

....I just don’t see any sympathy from the American public on this...I think our little hometown twice weekly paper will be just fine...Rush will tell me all I need to know nationally....there’s too nuch national news out there any way....many of us remember when TV used to sign off at midnight and we got along OK.


8 posted on 07/04/2008 6:39:13 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: kellynla

Mr. Egan is trying to say the problems our liberal-left newspapers are currently experiencing are not as a result of their liberal-left slant but their failings are only because the newspaper industry has not kept up with technology. In other words, there is not a problem with the liberal-left message, the problem is with the outdated messenger.

These leftist journalists will even try to spin their own demise.


9 posted on 07/04/2008 6:39:14 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: NurdlyPeon

In Jefferson’s day, newspapers were proudly partisan and competed with each other in the arena of ideas. Today, one variety of newspapers are already dead and gone - conservative newspapers. So why should we mourn the passing of the liberal ones, especially when they have the sanctimony to claim that only they hold sway over the events of the day.

Be gone, be gone. The arena of ideas is the internet and the battle is raging therein, these leftie rags are up to date as the buggy whip.


10 posted on 07/04/2008 6:41:04 AM PDT by centurion316 (Democrats - Supporting Al Qaida Worldwide)
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To: TonyM

” I won’t be happy until the New York Times closes its doors. That will be a great day for America.”

I would be happier if a CONSERVATIVE purchased the newspaper.


11 posted on 07/04/2008 6:51:10 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla
Newspapers.....

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12 posted on 07/04/2008 6:53:37 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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To: kellynla
"anyone who cheers the collapse of the newspaper industry should consider why Jefferson put aside his distaste for the vitriol and nonsense of the press for the larger principle of healthy democracies needing informed citizens."

In the context of the article, this is a 100% specious statement.

Someone should tell Timberly that the poorly executed, half-witted argumentum ad verecundiam is a contributing reason why people are shying away from him and his ilk.

13 posted on 07/04/2008 6:54:05 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Islam: Imagine a clown car.........with guns.)
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To: ken21

***the truth is: many are psychiatric patients. in the ‘70s liberals wanted them out of hospitals. and state govt’s saw an opportunity to cut their expenses.

many are alcoholics and drug addicts.***

How true! Also, we had the ‘60s and it became fashionable among the drug-riddled Nam protesters to take to living on the street instead of getting a job.


14 posted on 07/04/2008 6:56:55 AM PDT by kitkat (DRILL HERE, DRILL NOW)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

***”anyone who cheers the collapse of the newspaper industry should consider why Jefferson put aside his distaste for the vitriol and nonsense of the press for the larger principle of healthy democracies needing informed citizens.”***

>>>In the context of the article, this is a 100% specious statement.>>>

Yes! The IHT took the wonderful quote of Jefferson and turned it around to make it look as though Jefferson approved of the likes of Soros and Buffet bankrolling a one-opinion commie press.


15 posted on 07/04/2008 7:07:13 AM PDT by kitkat (DRILL HERE, DRILL NOW)
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To: kellynla
”Jefferson put aside his distaste for the vitriol and nonsense of the press for the larger principle of healthy democracies needing informed citizens.”

A constant spew of disinformation does nothing to create an informed citizenry.

”Rich U.S. cities like San Francisco can no longer support a profitable daily paper.”

Look on the bright side Tim; at least they wont have to pay a wind-fall profits tax. **smirk**

16 posted on 07/04/2008 7:08:00 AM PDT by ArchAngel1983 (Arch Angel- on guard)
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To: ArchAngel1983

Isn’t the IHT the bastard child of the NYTimes?
I noticed this snarkfest POS doesn’t allow direct response to his rantings lies...this old fart NY Times peon needs to be pensioned off to some Homo Colony for NY Slimers.


17 posted on 07/04/2008 7:19:59 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: kellynla
If newspapers are history it may well be because like most all modern day media/press the no longer report NEWS, they try to manufacture news to suit political and social agendas.
What little that passes for “news reporting” is all negative and almost always lends itself to blaming America and Americans for everything bad that happens.
People are sick and tired of that.
No one in my family (extended) had watched a “major network” evening newscast for longer then I can remember. We got sick and tired of the same bashing and gore and sex that was broadcast.
There are many ways to stay informed and be aware of what is moping on in the world.
Newspapers and Network Tv News should become history..............
18 posted on 07/04/2008 7:24:20 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Got Freedom ? Thank a Veteran.........)
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To: iopscusa
”...this old fart NY Times peon needs to be pensioned off to some Homo Colony for NY Slimers.

As the extinction process gains momentum, I’m sure the mass exodus to said ‘Colony’ will increase proportionally.

19 posted on 07/04/2008 8:03:06 AM PDT by ArchAngel1983 (Arch Angel- on guard)
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To: kellynla


20 posted on 07/04/2008 8:26:40 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©® - CTHULHU/SHOGGOTH '08 = Nothing LESS!!!)
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To: kellynla
The last line of this tripe explains why so much of the reading public won't shed a tear as the Newspaper funeral passes by Main street.
“We may still prove Jefferson's preference wrong: Perhaps a nation can function without newspapers. But it would be a confederacy of dunces.”
Timmy sounds like a jilted lover shouting, “You're gonna miss me when I'm gone!!!” as his heart's desire drives away with a new mate. Now who are the dunces, Timmy?
21 posted on 07/04/2008 8:27:04 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: kellynla
Rich U.S. cities like San Francisco can no longer support a profitable daily paper.

Of course they can. The Liberal media seems incapable of understanding an incredibly simple truth: their anti-business, socialist agenda has completely turned off their advertisers — who are, after all, businesspeople.

They've been biting the hand that feeds them for decades.

22 posted on 07/04/2008 8:35:08 AM PDT by JennysCool (They all say they want change, but they're really after folding money.)
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To: kellynla

This one’s a real piece of work, don’t even know where to start.


23 posted on 07/04/2008 10:47:43 AM PDT by MIT-Elephant ("Armed with what? Spitballs?")
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To: kellynla

I read a newspaper held in my hands last Monday for the first time in 18 months. It felt strange. It was in a doctor’s waiting room.
It made loud sounds when I turned the pages, and it was hard to put back together as I had found it.


24 posted on 07/04/2008 10:56:04 AM PDT by Crawdad (If you're in a fair fight, your tactics suck.)
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To: NurdlyPeon
And anyone who cheers the collapse of the newspaper industry should consider why Jefferson put aside his distaste for the vitriol and nonsense of the press for the larger principle of healthy democracies needing informed citizens.

Since when, exactly, have "presstitutes" been in the business of "informing" the country, as opposed to indoctrinating the public? When journalists forgo "advocacy journalism", and it is no longer taught as a viable concept in "schools of journalism" across the country, then, and only then, will I even be *able* to conceive of a time where the press informs the public, without some hidden, or even not so hidden agenda in mind...

the infowarrior

25 posted on 07/04/2008 11:35:47 AM PDT by infowarrior
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To: kellynla
“We may still prove Jefferson's preference wrong: Perhaps a nation can function without newspapers. But it would be a confederacy of dunces.”

Anyone who relies on a newspaer to be informed is a myopic dunce of the highest order.

26 posted on 07/04/2008 1:05:27 PM PDT by lawnguy (The function of wisdom is to discriminate between good and evil-Cicero)
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