Posted on 07/03/2008 7:39:18 PM PDT by blam
US election: Barack Obama wobbles on withdrawing Iraq troops
By Tim Shipman in Washington
Last Updated: 12:20AM BST 04/07/2008
Senator Barack Obama has rushed to clarify his position on the Iraq War after he appeared to wobble on a commitment to withdraw US ground troops within 16 months, a central plank of his candidacy.
Barack Obama speaks on his Iraq policy during a news conference in Fargo, North Dakota
The Democratic presidential nominee used a press conference to say that the timetable was not set in stone and that he would adjust his plans based on conditions on the ground when he visits Iraq later this month.
On his website, Mr Obama promises he "will remove one to two combat brigades each month, and have all of our combat brigades out of Iraq within 16 months".
But he told journalists in North Dakota that those policies could be "refined" in the light of what he finds in Iraq.
"I've always said the pace of withdrawal would be dictated by the safety and security of our troops and the need to maintain stability," he said.
"When I go to Iraq and have a chance to talk to some of the commanders on the ground, I'm sure I'll have more information and will continue to refine my policies."
The comments were immediately seized upon by his rival, Republican Senator John McCain, a supporter of the Iraq War who has taunted Mr Obama over his failure to visit Iraq for more than two years.
Brian Rogers, a spokesman for Mr McCain, said: “Since announcing his campaign in 2007, the central premise of Barack Obama’s candidacy was his commitment to begin withdrawing American troops from Iraq immediately. Today, Barack Obama reversed that position proving once again that his words
(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...
This guy is mental.
So he just threw Iraq under the bus?
Anyone starting a betting pool on the fall of Baghdad. I have $20 on I+15 [inauguration day + 15 months]. No only do they get Baghdad, but they get the embarrassment of trapping the last two US combat brigades which are stuck in Iraq for the last month in an indefensible position awaiting orders to withdraw. Sounds like a Jimmy Carter move.
And a couple of US combat brigades. Orderly retreat is an extremely delicate and complex maneuver. Only the best military geniuses can pull it off without being overrun and slaughtered.
This POS Marxist socialist cares ABOUT ONE THING — POWER AND THE WHITE HOUSE. He is, and will, SAY AND DO ANYTHING TO GET THAT POWER.
He is a text-book liberal, very dangerous, and an AMERICA-HATER — the BEST friend of our enemies.
God, how can this be happening? And where in the hell is McCain and the hard counters to this scum bag? Is McCain just going to HAND THIS ELECTION to this raving Marxist?
Gosh, every day just brings something new and more to love about Moob Barack.
/not.
I only wish that the “anti Macs” would take stuff like this into account when they vow never to vote for him.
I will vote for him for the sake of our military personnel, alone.
I owe them that.
[*sigh*....now, where did I put my asbestos pajamas?]
Do not believe any of this for one second. He was truly a leftist as the most liberal voting senator. In this election he must, and is wobbling toward the center to con people into voting for him who are not socialists at heart. If he is elected, he will rule from the left which means government control and minimal individual liberty and freedom. If only fraud laws could be used to put politicians behind bars!
He sure does believe in change. He changes his position every other day.
May 18, 2008: Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, these countries are tiny compared to the Soviet Union. They don't pose a serious threat to us. ...they spend 1/100th of what we spend on the military. I mean, if Iran ever tried to pose a serious threat to us, they wouldn't stand a chance.
May 20, 2008: Iran is a grave threat. It has an illicit nuclear program. It supports terrorism across the regions and militias in Iraq. It threatens Israel's existence. It denies the Holocaust.
He’ll lose his base if they believe he might not deliver regardless of the hope and change rhetoric and demagoguery he comes up with.
That picture is ripe for someone to photoshop him holding a tin cup with a sign calling for spare change.
Nah. Mainly, they just care that he's Black.
Like ALL MARXISTS, the man's word means nothing.
Absolutely nothing.
Obama is (impeached and disbarred) Bill Clinton without the honesty and fidelity.
On his website, Mr Obama promises he "will remove one to two combat brigades each month, and have all of our combat brigades out of Iraq within 16 months".
Mister Obama does have one "out". He can confess that he has never had any idea just what is a "brigade".
“I wanted to make an art piece of Barack Obama because I thought an iconic portrait of him could symbolize and amplify the importance of his mission. I believe Obama will guide this country to a future where everyone can thrive and I should support him vigorously for the sake of my two young daughters. I have made art opposing the Iraq war for several years, and making art of Obama, who opposed the war from the start, is like making art for peace. I know I have an audience of young art fans and I’m delighted if I can encourage them to see the merits of Barack Obama.”
-Shepard Fairey
http://store.barackobama.com/product_p/po26951.htm
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See, it's all about "peace, love, togetherness" and "change". Here are some of Fairey's other masterpieces. Most of his works are along these same lines...
From Michael Moore's website, September 12th, 2003:
Michael Moore to Wesley Clark: Run!
A Citizen's Appeal to a General in a Time of War (at Home)
Dear General Wesley Clark,
I've been meaning to write to you for some time. Two days after the Oscars, when I felt very alone and somewhat frightened by the level of hatred toward me for daring to suggest that we were being led into war for "fictitious reasons," one person stuck his neck out and came to my defense on national television.
And that person was you.
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/index.php?messageDate=2003-09-12
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From Moore's website, January 14th, 2004:
I'll Be Voting For Wesley Clark / Good-Bye Mr. Bush
Many of you have written to me in the past months asking, 'Who are you going to vote for this year?'
I have decided to cast my vote in the primary for Wesley Clark. That's right, a peacenik is voting for a general. What a country!
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/index.php?messageDate=2004-01-14
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Michael (the "peacenik") Moore quote, also from his website...
The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not "insurgents" or "terrorists" or "The Enemy." They are the REVOLUTION, the Minutemen, and their numbers will grow -- and they will win. Get it, Mr. Bush?
[actual quote from Michael Moore (2004). It still appears on his website]
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/index.php?messageDate=2004-04-14
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This one has been up for years, although I doubt if it's actually Michael Moore saying it...
The Communist Party USA (CPUSA):
"We are a party of unity in action. We are an integral part of every struggle and movement for change to eliminate poverty and joblessness, against racism and for full equality. We are participants, initiators and leaders of every movement to make life better now and much better in a socialist future." Yeah, so they supported an oppressive dictator, like the Repubs and Democrats haven't? The CP is still around, has apologized for that whole Stalin thing, and has a quickly growing youth section.
[see: MichaelMoore.com-->Links-->PoliticalAction (bottom of the page--CPUSA promo)]
http://www.michaelmoore.com/links/index.php?linkType=Political%20Action
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From the Revolutionary Communist Party website
A Viewer's Guide to Fahrenheit 911
Revolutionary Worker #1246, July 18, 2004, posted at http://rwor.org
"People have been lied to. And many can see it. Invasion, occupation, police spying, round-ups, even torture camps--plus far-reaching changes in law, treaty and doctrine --they have all come wrapped in deceit. The President lies. His whole clique lies."
http://rwor.org/a/1246/fahrenheit_911_guide.htm
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Monday, April 21st, 2008
My Vote's for Obama (if I could vote) ...by Michael Moore
Friends,
I don't get to vote for President this primary season. I live in Michigan. The party leaders (both here and in D.C.) couldn't get their act together, and thus our votes will not be counted.
So, if you live in Pennsylvania, can you do me a favor? Will you please cast my vote -- and yours -- on Tuesday for Senator Barack Obama?
"Benedict, Kathleen Willey, Obama".
Benedict, Kathleen Willey, Obama?
"Yes, you curdled camel's detritus."
(Opens Envelope)
"Name a Pope, a grope and a dope".
(looks inside envelope again)
"I don't see any HOPE in there."
From David Horowitz's FrontPageMag.com/DiscoverTheNetworks.org:
"FBI files from 1976, recently made public under the Freedom of Information Act, confirm the connections between Weatherman, Havana, and Moscow. Weatherman leaders like Mark Rudd traveled illegally to Havana in 1968 to engage in terrorist training. There, camps set up by Soviet KGB Colonel Vadim Kotchergine were educating Westerners both in Marxist philosophy and urban warfare."
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6808
July 27, 1970: The United States Army base at The Presidio in San Francisco is bombed on the 11th anniversary of the Cuban Revolution. [NYTimes, 7/27/70] :
Chronology of Weather Underground attacks:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weatherman_(organization)#Chronology_of_events
Weather Underground Organization linked to North Vietnamese and Cuban governments, KGB
[420 pages in all on pdf]
Source: FBI, via Freedom of Information Act:
http://foia.fbi.gov/foiaindex/weather.htm
From David Horowitz's FrontPageMag.com/DiscoverTheNetworks.org:
March 6, 1970: "three members of the Weather Underground accidentally killed themselves in a Manhattan townhouse while attempting to build a powerful bomb they had intended to plant at a social dance in Fort Dix, New Jersey -- an event that was to be attended by U.S. Army soldiers. Hundreds of lives could have been lost had the plot been successfully executed."
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6808
"The bomb was intended to be planted at a non-commissioned officer's dance at Fort Dix, New Jersey.
The bomb was packed with nails to inflict maximum casualties upon detonation."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weatherman_(organization)#Chronology_of_events
Bill Ayers TODAY (April 6, 2008), from his own red communist star-headed website, begging to debate communism vs capitalism with Sean Hannity and STILL calling for revolution!
"Imperialism. I’m against it, and if Sean Hannity and others were honest, this is the ground they would fight me on. Capitalism played its role historically and is exhausted as a force for progress: built on exploitation, theft, conquest, war, and racism, capitalism and imperialism must be defeated and a world revolution—a revolution against war and racism and materialism, a revolution based on human solidarity and love, cooperation and the common good —must win.
We begin by releasing our most hopeful dreams and our most radical imaginations: a better world is both possible and necessary.
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