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Top federal judges clear path for more logging (Amazing ruling for 9th Circuit)
The Oregonian ^ | July 3, 2008 | Michael Milstein

Posted on 07/03/2008 7:27:22 PM PDT by jazusamo

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To: riverrunner

Well that hasn’t helped in the past, knowing the SCOTUS would overturn most of their rulings. I wonder if the SCOTUS telegraphed a message. It almost looks as if the 9th has been turned the other way. Wow. If that were the case...

I would like to see reasoned forest logging rules across the board too.


41 posted on 07/04/2008 7:30:12 AM PDT by DoughtyOne ( I say no to the Hillary Clinton wing of the Republican party. Not now or ever, John McCain...)
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To: DoughtyOne

Don’t have the slightest idea why they came up with this ruling, it’s definitely contrary to their track record. Hopefully there will be more on that in the next few days.

The first thing I did was look to see who the eleven judges were and sure enough, judge Stephen Reinhardt was not one of them. He’s a liberal old coot appointed by Jimmah Cahter that’s been overturned more than any other in the Ninth I believe.


42 posted on 07/04/2008 8:09:20 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: george76

I thought you’ld be interested in this. Don’t know what happened, it was out of the blue. For them to admit their past errors is almost unbelievable to me.


43 posted on 07/04/2008 8:11:47 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: smoothsailing

Thought you might be interested in this Brother.


44 posted on 07/04/2008 8:14:29 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: jazusamo

Is that Ramona Ripston’s husband? I’ve forgotten his name.

Her and here husband are a real pair.


45 posted on 07/04/2008 8:24:50 AM PDT by DoughtyOne ( I say no to the Hillary Clinton wing of the Republican party. Not now or ever, John McCain...)
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To: jazusamo

Is that Ramona Ripston’s husband? I’ve forgotten his name.

Her and her husband are a real pair.


46 posted on 07/04/2008 8:24:58 AM PDT by DoughtyOne ( I say no to the Hillary Clinton wing of the Republican party. Not now or ever, John McCain...)
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To: jazusamo

***The enviros are going to go nuts!***

The enviros ARE nuts.

The entire Sierra Nevada mountain range is one giant tinder box. I was up at one of my fave haunts last summer. The redwoods just below King’s Canyon. I was shocked. You go twenty feet off the trail and the tinder dry litter is three feet deep and bone dry. Scary.


47 posted on 07/04/2008 8:25:39 AM PDT by gost2
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To: Carry_Okie

Naaaaaaa. We’ll let the Chinese, Koreans and Indians come in and create a logging industry. Some Americans can be their peons.


48 posted on 07/04/2008 8:28:27 AM PDT by gost2
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To: DoughtyOne
Yes, he is. Here's a line from Google.

Stephen Reinhardt is currently married to Ramona Ripston, the Executive Director of the ACLU of Southern California,[2] and has three children.

49 posted on 07/04/2008 8:32:07 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: jazusamo
A truly amazing rarity for the 9th Circuit, actually using common sense to make a decision! Refreshing news, Jaz, thanks for the ping.
50 posted on 07/04/2008 8:35:29 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: gost2

That’s a shame, sorry to hear it. I haven’t been to King’s Canyon in many many years but what a beautiful place.


51 posted on 07/04/2008 8:35:31 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: gost2
Naaaaaaa. We’ll let the Chinese, Koreans and Indians come in and create a logging industry. Some Americans can be their peons.

China's forests suck. The Russian taiga has vast forests, but they don't grow worth a darn. It's soil temperature that makes for growth. Weyerhaeuser, for example, has operations in Borneo, Indonesia, South America, and Europe, with old growth operations primarily in Canada. Interestingly, it's giant sequoia that's being grown in Scotland, Morocco, and Germany.

The stuff in Washington is just about ready to hit again. They'll want a good price for it and don't want the National Forests to dilute the market.

52 posted on 07/04/2008 8:37:46 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (We have people in power with desire for evil.)
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To: huldah1776

I have lived in a log home for 13 years. I have since wrapped and stuccoed the exterior and plastered half of the interior. The bugs and weather were fast destroying the exterior ... the logs inside are an incredible dust magnet that have to be brush-vacumed twice a year and also since they reflect near zero light the place was dark and dreary even though we cut in more windows and large french doors.

Additionally log construction is very labor intensive and expensive. A 2 x 6 framed wall is cheaper, almost as strong, better insulating and keeps the bugs out. The logs will check and split and make easy entrance for all kinds of six legged and crawling friends to come live with you.

Log homes are ‘artistic’ and sexy to look at. They also suck.


53 posted on 07/04/2008 8:40:12 AM PDT by gost2
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To: smoothsailing

You bet, Smooth. You and the Mrs. have a great Fourth today at the VFW.


54 posted on 07/04/2008 8:42:16 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: jazusamo
Thanks, Jaz. Here's hoping you and your family have a wonderful 4th as well!

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55 posted on 07/04/2008 8:52:04 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: eyedigress

“One possibility is that the smoke helped improve their vision,”

Great quote ... I worked with Mark Rey years ago and he is one terrific person, as were most of the forest industry guys. I am just delighted for them. This is looooooong overdue.


56 posted on 07/04/2008 8:53:59 AM PDT by EDINVA (Proud American for 23,062 days.... and counting!)
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To: jazusamo
“Political leaders “will be able to say, ‘Go ahead and cut everything down and we'll make sure our scientists say that's O.K. and then we can go to court and say the science supports it,’ “ he said. Political pressure could be used in the same way to stop all logging, he said.”

The hypocrisy of this enviro is astounding. Question a scientist or politician on the GW dogma and you'll be called akin to a holocaust denier.

57 posted on 07/04/2008 8:58:10 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (Been here before)
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To: headstamp 2

You’re exactly right, this Rohlf is a real number. A law professor teaching future attorneys all the tricks of the environut trade.

Enviromental attorney has become a big thing at several law schools here in the NW. Over twenty years ago a professor of my son asked him to go to a round table type thing at UO for prospective law students. He didn’t want to be an attorney but he went.

At his table of 12 to 15 people he said at least half wanted to be enviro attorneys, said they all wanted to make the world a better place. LOL!


58 posted on 07/04/2008 9:10:57 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: jazusamo

“Top federal judges clear path for more logging (Amazing ruling for 9th Circuit)”

Wow, I can hardly believe it. Surely hell is freezing over.


59 posted on 07/04/2008 9:16:21 AM PDT by AuntB (Vote Obama! ..........Because ya can't blame 'the man' when you are the 'man'.... Wanda Sikes)
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To: AuntB

Hah! I couldn’t hardly believe my eyes when I stumbled on this story yesterday evening.

It still hasn’t been widely printed, AP put out a blurb on it but not many papers have picked it up yet. Don’t know if they wanted to keep under the radar or not, this Fourth of July weekend probably has something to do with it.


60 posted on 07/04/2008 9:31:27 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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