Posted on 07/03/2008 10:12:18 AM PDT by Crazieman
Due to pending disasters predicted because of global warming, government scientists are urging the creation of a new Earth Systems Science Agency -- by merging the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and the U.S. Geological Survey...
'The United States faces unprecedented environmental and economic challenges in the decades ahead,' the group warns. 'Foremost among them will be climate change, sea-level rise, altered weather patterns, declines in freshwater availability and quality and loss of biodiversity'... Developing...
“Morons”
Clearly. They should all collectively crawl back into their Global Warming Bong, and sit it out until the world gets colder
Oh dear, now we’re all going to get to live on Planet Gore!
Why would we need a new gov’t agency? Just saying, we already have these two agencies, plus the Environmental Protection Agency. Wouldn’t this fall under EPA jurisdiction if we really want to take any action in this area? Not sure we need more bureaucrats to deal with it.
Climate changes over time but not nearly as quickly and these MORONS’ brains are frying!!!
Dis’is’buuuuullsh$t man!
And 90% of it will be made up of Lawyers.
I say prove “global warming” or STFU
"The central fact is that after three quarters of a century of extraordinarily mild conditions, the earth's climate seems to be cooling down. Meteorologists disagree about the cause and extent of the cooling trend, as well as over its specific impact on local weather conditions. But they are almost unanimous in the view that the trend will reduce agricultural productivity for the rest of the century. If the climatic change is as profound as some of the pessimists fear, the resulting famines could be catastrophic."
The Cooling World
Newsweek, April 28, 1975
There are ominous signs that the Earth's weather patterns have begun to change dramatically and that these changes may portend a drastic decline in food production with serious political implications for just about every nation on Earth. The drop in food output could begin quite soon, perhaps only 10 years from now. The regions destined to feel its impact are the great wheat-producing lands of Canada and the U.S.S.R. in the North, along with a number of marginally self- sufficient tropical areas parts of India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indochina and Indonesia where the growing season is dependent upon the rains brought by the monsoon.
The evidence in support of these predictions has now begun to accumulate so massively that meteorologists are hard-pressed to keep up with it. In England, farmers have seen their growing season decline by about two weeks since 1950, with a resultant overall loss in grain production estimated at up to 100,000 tons annually. During the same time, the average temperature around the equator has risen by a fraction of a degree a fraction that in some areas can mean drought and desolation. Last April, in the most devastating outbreak of tornadoes ever recorded, 148 twisters killed more than 300 people and caused half a billion dollars' worth of damage in 13 U.S. states.
To scientists, these seemingly disparate incidents represent the advance signs of fundamental changes in the world's weather. The central fact is that after three quarters of a century of extraordinarily mild conditions, the earth's climate seems to be cooling down. Meteorologists disagree about the cause and extent of the cooling trend, as well as over its specific impact on local weather conditions. But they are almost unanimous in the view that the trend will reduce agricultural productivity for the rest of the century. If the climatic change is as profound as some of the pessimists fear, the resulting famines could be catastrophic.
"A major climatic change would force economic and social adjustments on a worldwide scale," warns a recent report by the National Academy of Sciences, "because the global patterns of food production and population that have evolved are implicitly dependent on the climate of the present century."
A survey completed last year by Dr. Murray Mitchell of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration reveals a drop of half a degree in average ground temperatures in the Northern Hemisphere between 1945 and 1968. According to George Kukla of Columbia University, satellite photos indicated a sudden, large increase in Northern Hemisphere snow cover in the winter of 1971-72. And a study released last month by two NOAA scientists notes that the amount of sunshine reaching the ground in the continental U.S. diminished by 1.3% between 1964 and 1972.
To the layman, the relatively small changes in temperature and sunshine can be highly misleading. Reid Bryson of the University of Wisconsin points out that the Earth's average temperature during the great Ice Ages was only about seven degrees lower than during its warmest eras and that the present decline has taken the planet about a sixth of the way toward the Ice Age average. Others regard the cooling as a reversion to the "little ice age" conditions that brought bitter winters to much of Europe and northern America between 1600 and 1900 years when the Thames used to freeze so solidly that Londoners roasted oxen on the ice and when iceboats sailed the Hudson River almost as far south as New York City.
Just what causes the onset of major and minor ice ages remains a mystery. "Our knowledge of the mechanisms of climatic change is at least as fragmentary as our data," concedes the National Academy of Sciences report. "Not only are the basic scientific questions largely unanswered, but in many cases we do not yet know enough to pose the key questions."
Meteorologists think that they can forecast the short-term results of the return to the norm of the last century. They begin by noting the slight drop in overall temperature that produces large numbers of pressure centers in the upper atmosphere. These break up the smooth flow of westerly winds over temperate areas. The stagnant air produced in this way causes an increase in extremes of local weather such as droughts, floods, extended dry spells, long freezes, delayed monsoons and even local temperature increases all of which have a direct impact on food supplies.
"The world's food-producing system," warns Dr. James D. McQuigg of NOAA's Center for Climatic and Environmental Assessment, "is much more sensitive to the weather variable than it was even five years ago." Furthermore, the growth of world population and creation of new national boundaries make it impossible for starving peoples to migrate from their devastated fields, as they did during past famines.
Climatologists are pessimistic that political leaders will take any positive action to compensate for the climatic change, or even to allay its effects. They concede that some of the more spectacular solutions proposed, such as melting the Arctic ice cap by covering it with black soot or diverting arctic rivers, might create problems far greater than those they solve. But the scientists see few signs that government leaders anywhere are even prepared to take the simple measures of stockpiling food or of introducing the variables of climatic uncertainty into economic projections of future food supplies. The longer the planners delay, the more difficult will they find it to cope with climatic change once the results become grim reality.
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The Cooling World:
http://denisdutton.com/cooling_world.htm
Original Newsweek article with scary maps and graphs:
http://denisdutton.com/newsweek_coolingworld.pdf
Aw, geez. This is nuts.
The biggest disaster for global warming jihadists is that more and more people see the anthropogenic global warming theory for what it is, a total fraud.
They have to hurry and get things in place before the cat gets out of the back. With each day that passes, more and more people are catching on to the fraud. The cultist are crying with increasingly more hysterical claims of doom that do not come true. In a matter of years it will be over an they will switch to the next scam for control.
Scroll down the page (on Drudge) and you will see Charlotte hits a 123-year LOW.
Another push toward Marxism.
Those who follow Algore, the genius inventor of the Internet and Global Warming, those who BELIEVE in this great travesty against the Planet Earth shall henceforth be known as “Gords”.
(With about as much as sense as a gord).
Soros sock-puppet James Hansen was on the global cooling train back in the day. Then the communique from Moscow arrived and he promptly did a 180.
I think we ought to stand back and ask what would be accomplished by the US Geological Survey, in such a mess. Based on my fundamentals of the organizational....they study rocks, volcanoes, and earthquake prone areas. I don’t believe they study water or rivers or lakes...or am I wrong? It would be curious to understand the degree of deceit going on....to acquire this other organization and put them under NOAA. What I could see...is that the dimwits suddenly create methods of undermining the volcanic data and the amount of carbon pumped into the air....which is a tremendous amount of carbon...much more than what humans contribute.
Yep - another agency, packed with unelectable, unaccountable, unfirable libs with broad, sweeping powers.
I’m sorry - since these guys are GOVERNMENT scientists pushing for this, isn’t it PROPAGANDA?
Sadly, they’ll probably get their way. :(:(:(
Liberals can never have too many agencies. Even if the agencies greatly overlap each other. As it is, we could probably eliminate 75% of the agencies in the federal and state governments and never miss them.
howzabout.... "Is this really happening the way we're assuming it is?" or "If the Earth is indeed warming, how much are Man's activities responsible for it?"
There. Can I have a grant?
“Algore will want this appointment to be Czar of the Global Warming Hoax Administration. “
I doubt it, he would not want the oversight and accountability.
Plus, he’s made close to $80,000,000 over the last eight years pushing his scam, that would all stop if he were the Gaia Czar.
If this comes to fruit it will be some relatively unknown professor, who will appoint the “correct” political hacks in his third tier of management (the level that writes policy).
Yes, the temperature is elevated these days but it has absolutely nothing to do with man made emissions. One volcano eruption emits more pollutants than man ever could. Seems to me the earth handles those just fine.
Another government agency to rob your wallet. When will this stop?
Al sees his 15 minutes of fame and is capitalizing on it. If he was serious, he would be living in a log cabin, growing his own food and riding his bike. Until he does he should be put out to pasture where he belongs.
THE ACQUITTAL OF CARBON DIOXIDE
by Jeffrey A. Glassman, PhD
ABSTRACT:
"Carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is the product of oceanic respiration due to the well-known but under-appreciated solubility pump. Carbon dioxide rises out of warm ocean waters where it is added to the atmosphere. There it is mixed with residual and accidental CO2, and circulated, to be absorbed into the sink of the cold ocean waters. Next the thermohaline circulation carries the CO2-rich sea water deep into the ocean. A millennium later it appears at the surface in warm waters, saturated by lower pressure and higher temperature, to be exhausted back into the atmosphere. Throughout the past 420 millennia, comprising four interglacial periods, the Vostok record of atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration is imprinted with, and fully characterized by, the physics of the solubility of CO2 in water, along with the lag in the deep ocean circulation.
Notwithstanding that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas, atmospheric carbon dioxide has neither caused nor amplified global temperature increases. Increased carbon dioxide has been an effect of global warming, not a cause. Technically, carbon dioxide is a lagging proxy for ocean temperatures. When global temperature, and along with it, ocean temperature rises, the physics of solubility causes atmospheric CO2 to increase.
If increases in carbon dioxide, or any other greenhouse gas, could have in turn raised global temperatures, the positive feedback would have been catastrophic. While the conditions for such a catastrophe were present in the Vostok record from natural causes, the runaway event did not occur. Carbon dioxide does not accumulate in the atmosphere."
http://www.rocketscientistsjournal.com/2006/10/co2_acquittal.html
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The graph above represents temperature and CO2 levels over the past 400,000 years. It is the same exact data Al Gore and the rest of the man-made global warmers refer to. The blue line is temps, the red CO2 levels. The deep valleys represent 4 separate glaciation periods. Now look very carefully at this relationship between temps and CO2 levels and keep in mind that Gore claims this data is the 'proof' that CO2 has warmed the earth in the past. But does the graph indeed show this? Nope. In fact, rising CO2 levels all throughout this 400,000 year period actually lagged behind temperature increases ...by an average of 800 years! So it couldn't have been CO2 that got Earth out of these past glaciations. Yet Gore dishonestly and continually claims otherwise. Furthermore, the subsequent CO2 level increases never did lead to additional warming, the so-called "runaway greenhouse effect" that Al Gore and his friends keep warning us about. -ETL
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"The above chart shows the range of global temperature through the last 500 million years. There is no statistical correlation between the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere through the last 500 million years and the temperature record in this interval. In fact, one of the highest levels of carbon dioxide concentration occurred during a major ice age that occurred about 450 million years ago [Myr]. Carbon dioxide concentrations at that time were about 15 times higher than at present." [also see 180 million years ago, same thing happened]:
http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=010405M
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So, greenhouse [effect] is all about carbon dioxide, right?
Wrong. The most important players on the greenhouse stage are water vapor and clouds. Carbon dioxide has been increased to about 0.038% of the atmosphere (possibly from about 0.028% pre-Industrial Revolution) while water in its various forms ranges from 0% to 4% of the atmosphere and its properties vary by what form it is in and even at what altitude it is found in the atmosphere.
In simple terms the bulk of Earth's greenhouse effect is due to water vapor by virtue of its abundance. Water accounts for about 90% of the Earth's greenhouse effect -- perhaps 70% is due to water vapor and about 20% due to clouds (mostly water droplets), some estimates put water as high as 95% of Earth's total tropospheric greenhouse effect (e.g., Freidenreich and Ramaswamy, 'Solar Radiation Absorption by Carbon Dioxide, Overlap with Water, and a Parameterization for General Circulation Models,' Journal of Geophysical Research 98 (1993):7255-7264).
The remaining portion comes from carbon dioxide, nitrous oxide, methane, ozone and miscellaneous other 'minor greenhouse gases.' As an example of the relative importance of water it should be noted that changes in the relative humidity on the order of 1.3-4% are equivalent to the effect of doubling CO2.
http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/
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Water Vapor Rules the Greenhouse System
Water vapor constitutes Earth's most significant greenhouse gas, accounting for about 95% of Earth's greenhouse effect (4). Interestingly, many 'facts and figures' regarding global warming completely ignore the powerful effects of water vapor in the greenhouse system, carelessly (perhaps, deliberately) overstating human impacts as much as 20-fold.
Water vapor is 99.999% of natural origin. Other atmospheric greenhouse gases, carbon dioxide (CO2), methane (CH4), nitrous oxide (N2O), and miscellaneous other gases (CFC's, etc.), are also mostly of natural origin (except for the latter, which is mostly anthropogenic).
Human activities contribute slightly to greenhouse gas concentrations through farming, manufacturing, power generation, and transportation. However, these emissions are so dwarfed in comparison to emissions from natural sources we can do nothing about, that even the most costly efforts to limit human emissions would have a very small-- perhaps undetectable-- effect on global climate.

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Time's Joe Klein Wants to 'Kill Your Air Conditioner'
Gore's Home Still Guzzling Energy (an oldie but a goodie)
Global Warming on Free Republic
Yep. They know that the science has already turned, and have to drum up hysteria and entrench policies before people get wise.
That their acronym would not be that far from ODESSA seems appropriate.
Not because of their God Like egos, but for our own good.
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Why not a cabinet level position?
“Global Warming Czar”
The Department of Crap?
The meteorologists can barely conceal their glee, since it's been slim pickings on the impending hurricane disaster meter for the past two years. I just read one blog that was ecstatically predicting that this year would be worse than 2005. May they all rot in the ultimate place of GW -- hell.
“government” scientists?
Best defense is a strong offense.
Is there a conservative (”Republican” designation intentionally omitted) with enough balls, to counter this socialist crap by introducing legislation to eliminate the EPA. For good measure, the bill should also include shuttering HUD, the Dept of Education and the National Endowment for the Arts.
You’re right about “global warming” theory being BS.
We live on a planet that was “spun from dust” about 4,500,000,000 years ago.
Since then, a lot has happened, and there’s more to come.
There are better things to worry about than “global warming”; and electing nonsense liberals is one of them.
Blow up the Sun , before it is too late .
I remember reading a novel called “Ice” back then. It was actually quite a page-turner.
What we need is an American Climate Protection Amendment to the US Constitution, whereby the government is specifically prohibited from making any law, regulation or executive order, or imposing any tax, for the purpose of changing or regulating the climate of the planet.
Its the only way to preserve our natural liberties from the relentless onslaught of the global warming debate deniers, who continue to deny the indisputable fact that there is lots of scientific debate about global warming, and continue to pursue their half-baked social engineering redistributionist agenda despite the many, many credentialed scientists who reject the man-made global warming hypothesis outright.
Even if such an amendment is politically impossible, a serious debate on its merits would do much to put the pro-global warming policy makers where they belong which is on the defensive.
I call them pro-global warming because they desperately want anthropogenic global warming to be real in spite of scientific evidence to the contrary, and they will not give up their draconian interventionist legislative agenda until we pry it from their cold, (legislatively) dead fingers.
Global Warming Czar
Please, Tovarisch, that would be "Commissar of Global Warming" Just say, "Nyet" to the Czar.
It will probably happen whether McCain or Hussein gets elected. Sigh....
This just in.....
N.O.A.A. and U.S.G.S. to be combined to form U.S.A.N.O.G.A.S.
'The United States faces unprecedented environmental and economic challenges in the decades ahead,' the group warns. 'Foremost among them will be male pattern baldness, climate change, erectile dysfunction, sea-level rise, the Heartbreak of psoriasis, altered weather patterns, hangnails, declines in freshwater availability and quality, acne and loss of more socks in the dryer'Weenies. Go hide under the covers 'till mama comes home.
Funny but I remember this when it happened being scared as a kid that we would all freeze.
(I’m showing my age now - god help me)
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