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Climate Democracy
MensNewsDaily.com ^ | July 3, 2008 | Roger F. Gay

Posted on 07/03/2008 4:15:47 AM PDT by RogerFGay

The UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change came up with the world's first idea for government control of the temperature of the earth's atmosphere. The presidential candidates from the two major parties in the US seem united in their quest to increase the role of the federal government in regulating climate. European nations have spearheaded international efforts. Politicians, bureaucrats, and journalists around the globe are in determined agreement on climate change. They want to do something about it.

US citizens currently face is a lack of choice from the two presidential candidates. During the latter part of the 20th century, average temperature increased. Change is a winning campaign theme this season, so both candidates are firmly against it. In fact, Barack Obama has promised to work with one of the world's leading opponents of warmth, Al Gore. Mr. Gore is well-known for his fanatic drive to make the earth colder. He has, for example, lobbied tirelessly for the rights of polar ice sheets, penguins and polar bears.

I've never been one to disparage a glacier, but that doesn't obscure my recognition of the manipulation in Mr. Gore's message when he attempts to convince us that we have no choice. Balderdash! If government can control the earth's temperature, then it can be forced in either direction. More importantly, if politicians are going to assume the authority to manipulate climate, voters should decide which way it goes.

Mr. Gore lives in the southern United States where I can well understand that a few degrees of cooling seems like a good thing. Try walking around Baton Rouge, Louisiana on a hot, humid summer day. Given a democratic choice, the south will likely rise in favor of cooling. But put yourself in the middle of a snowstorm in northern Minnesota and your perspective will change dramatically. Several degrees warmer would be a relief. Make it colder and Minnesota will suffer physically and economically.

The point is fundamental. Whether warming or cooling is beneficial depends largely on where you live. Federal control of climate is therefore inappropriate. International control, even worse. Climate democracy requires local control. If the political discussion remains national during this election season, the candidates should – at the very least – choose vice presidential running mates who favor warming: at least acknowledging that the north matters.

Local climate control: how can it be done? - the facts are these. To say that climate engineering is in a pre-early stage of development is a vast understatement. There is no such thing. Governments can no more control climate globally than they can locally. We have a long, long way to go technologically before any such thing as climate democracy can become reality. Wake up and smell the crap – it's a scam! They want to raise taxes and increase government control over earthly endeavors and you won't get anything for it in return.



TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Political Humor/Cartoons; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: climate; climatechange; environment; globalwarming; un

1 posted on 07/03/2008 4:15:48 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: RogerFGay

/barf


2 posted on 07/03/2008 4:18:06 AM PDT by KoRn (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: RogerFGay; Defendingliberty; WL-law; Genesis defender; proud_yank; FrPR; enough_idiocy; rdl6989; ...
 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

3 posted on 07/03/2008 4:19:25 AM PDT by steelyourfaith
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To: KoRn

Read the whole article before barfing.


4 posted on 07/03/2008 4:19:38 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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Hugo Chavez on Global Warming

"The environment is suffering damage that could be irreversible — global warming, the greenhouse effect, the melting of the polar ice caps, the rising sea level, hurricanes — with terrible social occurrences that will shake life on this planet."

"I believe this idea has a strong connection with reality. I don't think we have much time. Fidel Castro said in one of his speeches I read not so long ago, 'tomorrow could be too late, let's do now what we need to do'."

"I believe it is time that we take up with courage and clarity a political, social, collective and ideological offensive across the world — a real offensive that permits us to move progressively, over the next years, the next decades, leaving behind the perverse, destructive, destroyer, capitalist model and go forward in constructing the socialist model to avoid barbarism and beyond that the annihilation of life on this planet."

--Hugo Chavez, at the 16th World Festival of Youth and Students, held in Caracas on August 8-15, 2005
http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/2005/640/640p16.htm

5 posted on 07/03/2008 4:26:35 AM PDT by ETL (Plenty of REAL smoking-gun evidence on the demonRats at my FR home page)
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gloBULLwarminghype is ALL BS. We are cooling according to 32,000 real climate scientists... not some fat gas-bag, has-been, dope-head ex-VP POS and his minions!

LLS

6 posted on 07/03/2008 4:26:57 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (REAGANISM... not communism!!!)
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Volcanic eruptions reshape Arctic ocean floor: study
June 25, 2008 | AFP

Recent massive volcanoes have risen from the ocean floor deep under the Arctic ice cap, spewing plumes of fragmented magma into the sea, scientists who filmed the aftermath reported Wednesday.

The eruptions -- as big as the one that buried Pompei -- took place in 1999 along the Gakkel Ridge, an underwater mountain chain snaking 1,800 kilometres (1,100 miles) from the northern tip of Greenland to Siberia.

Scientists suspected even at the time that a simultaneous series of earthquakes were linked to these volcanic spasms.

But when a team led of scientists led by Robert Sohn of the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution in Massachusetts finally got a first-ever glimpse of the ocean floor 4,000 meters (13,000 feet) beneath the Arctic pack ice, they were astonished.

What they saw was unmistakable evidence of explosive eruptions rather than the gradual secretion of lava bubbling up from Earth's mantle onto the ocean floor.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080625/sc_afp/sciencegeologyoceansvolcano

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From Ohio State University News, Dec 2007...

EARTH'S HEAT ADDS TO CLIMATE CHANGE TO MELT GREENLAND ICE

COLUMBUS , Ohio -- Scientists have discovered what they think may be another reason why Greenland 's ice is melting: a thin spot in Earth's crust is enabling underground magma to heat the ice.

They have found at least one “hotspot” in the northeast corner of Greenland -- just below a site where an ice stream was recently discovered.

The researchers don't yet know how warm the hotspot is. But if it is warm enough to melt the ice above it even a little, it could be lubricating the base of the ice sheet and enabling the ice to slide more rapidly out to sea.

http://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/hotgreen.htm

7 posted on 07/03/2008 4:31:46 AM PDT by ETL (Plenty of REAL smoking-gun evidence on the demonRats at my FR home page)
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To: LibLieSlayer
Exactly. Global Warming: Has Anyone Noticed that it’s Over?
8 posted on 07/08/2008 8:05:29 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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