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Diabetes: Underrated, Insidious and Deadly
NY Times ^ | July 1, 2008 | TARA PARKER-POPE

Posted on 07/02/2008 1:11:47 AM PDT by neverdem

In a set of recent focus groups, participants were asked to rank the severity of various health problems, including cancer, heart disease and diabetes.

On a scale of 1 to 10, cancer and heart disease consistently ranked as 9s and 10s. But diabetes scored only 4s and 5s.

“The general consensus seems to be, ‘There’s medication,’ ‘Look how good people look with diabetes’ or ‘I’ve never heard of anybody dying of diabetes,’ ” said Larry Hausner, chief executive of the American Diabetes Association, which held the focus groups. “There was so little understanding about everything that dealt with diabetes.”

But diabetes is anything but minor. It wreaks havoc on the entire body, affecting everything from hearing and vision to sexual function, mental health and sleep. It is the leading cause of blindness, amputations and kidney failure, and it can triple the risk for heart attack and stroke.

“It is a disease that does have the ability to eat you alive,” said Dr. John B. Buse, a professor at the University of North Carolina School of Medicine who is the diabetes association’s president for medicine and science. “It can be just awful — it’s almost unimaginable how bad it can be.”

Diabetes results when the body cannot use blood sugar as energy, either because it has too little insulin or because it cannot use insulin. Type 2 diabetes, which accounts for 90 to 95 percent of cases, typically develops later in life and is associated with obesity and lack of exercise. Type 1 diabetes, which is often diagnosed in children, occurs when the immune system mistakenly destroys cells that make the insulin.

The disconnect between perception and reality is particularly worrisome at a time when national diabetes rates are surging. Just last week, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced...

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: diabetes; health; medicine; prediabetes
Graphic A Growing Menace That's interesting. White devils have the highest rate of Type I in birth to age 10 years old, and the lowest rate of Type II in age group from 10 - 19 years old.

How Seriously Do You Take Diabetes?

1 posted on 07/02/2008 1:11:48 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
My father had it. Parkinson's was an added complication. That wasn't what brought about his death. It was congestive heart failure and he was too old to qualify for a transplant.

2 posted on 07/02/2008 1:14:43 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: neverdem
I have Type II diabetes. Information, good information, is difficut to find on diabetes (especially type II).

The best site I have found hands down is Blood Sugar 101 and I highly recommend it.

My goal is to make it into the 5% Club found at the same site. Have not made it yet although I am in the 7% club now and sometimes break into the 6% club.

Hope this is of use to those concerned about their own or a loved one's Type II diabetes.

3 posted on 07/02/2008 1:31:54 AM PDT by RileyD, nwJ (G'dad in Iraq)
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To: RileyD, nwJ

6% club here.


4 posted on 07/02/2008 1:59:23 AM PDT by Sparky1776
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To: RileyD, nwJ

Guess I’m a member of the 5% club. For several years now my A1c has been in the 5.0 - 5.5 range.
I was diagnosed with type two shortly after my wife died. It scared the stuffing out of me. I knew one man who died and several who lost their feet due to complications. I took the diagnosis seriously and changed my eating habits, lost 80 pounds, attended the courses at the hospital and studied the literature.
I intentionally allowed my blood sugar get too low and too high to see what it would feel like - in case I didn’t have my meter with me. The medical description in the literature was meaningless to me. I found that when the level was over about 200 I would fell like laying down and taking a nap - even when there was no reason to be sleepy. When it fell below 60 I felt like I had a good buzz.
I learned that weight work burned a lot of sugar. If I want to enjoy a pancake breakfast I enjoy it (maybe one a month), when I do I increase from a 10 minute workout to a half hour workout and my BGL will be around 160 two hours after eating. Experimenting with diet and exercise while closely monitoring taught me what I could and could not so. The information in the literature is based on the average patient - and all people aren’t alike.
At our last meeting at the hospital the nurse was happy with my AC1 - 5%. The rest of the people were in the 7-12 range. The nurse asked me to share my “secret”. I told her it was easy. I normally eat a light breakfast, and have a Jack sandwich for lunch and a light supper - and no after supper snacking. She asked what a Jack sandwich was.
“A shot of Jack Daniel’s sandwiched between two bottles of Budweiser.”
At first she looked shocked, but said whatever worked for me and the rest of the people looked like they were going to try it.
I did make a drastic lifestyle change, and it wasn’t easy - but all I had to do was think about my feet rotting off and it was easier to drive past the fast food joint. It was easier to forgo the late night snaking. I could even watch TV without eating.


5 posted on 07/02/2008 3:23:48 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: RileyD, nwJ

I have been 6% for the last two years and holding steady.


6 posted on 07/02/2008 3:37:05 AM PDT by bmwcyle (If God wanted us to be Socialist, Karl Marx would have been born in America.)
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To: neverdem

bump for later


7 posted on 07/02/2008 4:17:45 AM PDT by joe fonebone (The Second Amendment is the Constitutions reset button)
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To: neverdem
...associated with obesity and lack of exercise.

It ought to be associated with the garbage marketed as 'food' in 'grocery' stores. Of course; that explains the obesity...

8 posted on 07/02/2008 4:22:31 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: who knows what evil?

“It ought to be associated with the garbage marketed as ‘food’ in ‘grocery’ stores.”

So true. Most of the “fat free” stuff at the supermarket was loaded with fructose and other sugars. That only makes one crave sugar all the more. My son is a type 1 Diabetic since he was 17 years old. He is now on the insulin pump. His managing quite nicely. His A1c went down from 9 to 7 since starting the pump. I am still struggling with my A1c.


9 posted on 07/02/2008 5:51:39 AM PDT by LottieDah (Democrats and liberals never fail to disappoint.)
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To: RileyD, nwJ

Thanks for the link.


10 posted on 07/02/2008 5:56:54 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: neverdem

Yup.

My Endocrynologist (ductless glands doc) said this: “Everybody’s afraid of the “C” word. They SHOULD be afraid of the “D” word.


11 posted on 07/02/2008 6:20:36 AM PDT by RoadTest ( Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. But he spake of the temple of his body.)
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To: who knows what evil?

“It ought to be associated with the garbage marketed as ‘food’ in ‘grocery’ stores.”

Agree. I exhort you all to turn every package around and read beginning at “Ingredients”. The government requires they tell the truth here. The front label is almost alway Obamese: Catchwords and subliminals.


12 posted on 07/02/2008 6:23:03 AM PDT by RoadTest ( Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. But he spake of the temple of his body.)
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To: who knows what evil?
It ought to be associated with the garbage marketed as 'food' in 'grocery' stores. Of course; that explains the obesity...

That's the easy approach to explaining the problem and one the nanny staters over at the Center for Science in the Public Interest would applaud. The fact is you have more food choices today than at any other time in history. Fresh fruit and vegetables are available year round and you can purchase a vast array of food and beverages with low fat, no fat, low salt, no salt, sugar free, allergen free, gluten free, carb free, low cholesterol, trans fat free, no added MSG, preservative free and on and on.

With so much variety and so many choices available it is absurd to blame the food industry, who are only giving people what they want, for the obesity problem.

This kind of misunderstanding will only embolden to food police in their quest to manage your freedom by limiting your choices. People today consume too many calories, mostly from carbs, and exercise far too little. If more people understood this fact along with some basic nutrition, we'd have a lot less diabetes and less demand for more regulation and punishment of industry. If you think food prices are high now just wait until the nanny staters get the support they need to sue and tax them into oblivion.

Conservatives should know better.

13 posted on 07/02/2008 6:42:45 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: neverdem

Ironically, we’ve found that a Kosher diet is great for diabetes control and prevention. Sometimes, you gotta listen to the writer of the owner’s manual.


14 posted on 07/02/2008 7:47:28 AM PDT by pgyanke ("Huntered"--The act of being ignored by media and party to prevent name recognition)
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To: neverdem

As a fat person, who’s sitting around posting on Free Republic - I can’t handle the truth!!!

I’ll read the article another time.


15 posted on 07/02/2008 8:02:55 AM PDT by prolifefirst
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To: RileyD, nwJ; Sparky1776; R. Scott; bmwcyle; joe fonebone; who knows what evil?; LottieDah; ...
Whatever works for you, I have no problem. Just be advised that the results are mixed.

Intensive Glycemic Control Fails to Cut Cardiovascular Risk: Focus on blood pressure, lipid changes.

International Study Challenges U.S. Findings on Diabetes

Diabetes Study Partially Halted After Deaths

FReepmail me if you want on or off the diabetes ping list.

16 posted on 07/02/2008 11:50:02 AM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: pgyanke

*snrk* Excellent!


17 posted on 07/02/2008 11:56:42 AM PDT by null and void (every Muslim, the minute he can differentiate, carries hate of Americans, Jews & Christians - OBL)
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To: neverdem

Yep - whatever works.
Like I posted, everyone is not alike.


18 posted on 07/02/2008 1:14:32 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: RileyD, nwJ

Thank you for this resource! I (and many others) appreciate it so much!


19 posted on 07/02/2008 2:22:53 PM PDT by mountainbunny
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To: Mase
I was reading your post and thinking ‘this guy sounds just like Mase, sticking up for the CHEMICAL ADDITIVE FOOD INDUSTRY’ and lookie here, it IS Mase! How are things at your MONOSODIUM GLUTAMATE FACTORY?
20 posted on 07/03/2008 6:01:20 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter
Good grief. Why do fools like you want to advertise their ignorance and stupidity on an open forum like this? Do you have "idiot" embossed on your forehead?

You whine here incessantly about chemicals and how they impact your health when you don't even understand the first thing about the subject matter. I'm sure your doctor is thrilled every time you walk through the door since they just love treating clueless hypochondriacs.

You eat glutamate every day and don't even know it. You couldn't live without it and probably have several pounds of it in your body right now. As the man said, "you can't fix stupid" so there is no doubt I'll be hearing from you again. Until then.....

21 posted on 07/03/2008 8:01:58 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Mase; Ditter

You think Ron was talking about Ditter?

22 posted on 07/03/2008 8:17:14 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are doom and gloomers, union members and liberals so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot; Ditter
Ditter was Ron White's inspiration.
23 posted on 07/03/2008 8:25:00 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: R. Scott

I’m slightly overweight and in my forties. Sometimes I feel really lethargic and tired, and even after a full night’s sleep I often feel that way. I haven’t been tested for diabetes yet, and quite frankly, I’m afraid to. I know I need to get more exercise and pass by the fast food joints more oftern than I do, but old habits die hard - very, very hard :(


24 posted on 07/03/2008 8:34:08 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (This tagline is completely naked - STOP STARING!)
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To: Mase
You are so right. That is the reason for all the obesity in this country.

People have a wide variety of choices. Many make the wrong choice. And it is only their fault.

25 posted on 07/03/2008 8:48:37 AM PDT by JRochelle (Rob Portman for VEEP.)
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To: JRochelle
I don't believe it is the cause of "all" the obesity in this country. A lot of it? Yes. All of it? No. Some people are fighting genetic, hormonal and other issues that will make obesity a lifelong challenge for them.

However, blaming the food companies or food ingredients for the problem is absurd.

26 posted on 07/03/2008 8:58:18 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Mase
The number of obesity cases caused by hormonal issues tiny.

Thyroid issues and taking certian medications such as steroids do alter the body's metabolism. Yes there are people who genetically more likely to be fat. They like food. There is such a thing as a person's brain not telling them that they are full until after they have already eaten too much. Some people just don't get into food so much or have a greater ability to stop.

The bottom line is, 99% of people who are overweight are so for just one reason. They eat more calories than they burn off.

27 posted on 07/03/2008 9:21:58 AM PDT by JRochelle (Rob Portman for VEEP.)
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To: JRochelle
I don't disagree. When someone says otherwise, which happens here regularly, I like to refer them to pictures of Americans in the early 20th century when half the population made their living in agriculture. You never see any fat people (other than the boozers) because people back then worked like hell.

People like to blame carbs for obesity. They've never seen what went on the table three times a day in the farm culture of the early 20th century. It was loaded with carbs. So, contrary what the know nothings here like to tell us, and to your point, the obesity problem of today is caused by too many calories going in and not enough of them being burned.

28 posted on 07/03/2008 9:42:10 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Mase
Dose related Mase, remember that.
29 posted on 07/03/2008 1:09:42 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: reagan_fanatic

Don’t be afraid to get tested. Having it and not doing anything is far worse than knowing about it and not doing anything. As I posted, I didn’t want to see my feet rot off - or go blind.
Changing life style is hard, but it can be done. I pass up fast food joints, but still eat burgers at home - and they’re far less fattening than at McDonalds. I even eat french fries now and then, even pizza. What’s different now is that I don’t eat the stuff as often or eat as much. When I do eat pizza (never Uno’s - one slice has the calories of an entire day!).
Of course, if you don’t care if you go blind and your feet rot off ...


30 posted on 07/03/2008 1:18:01 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: goldstategop
My father had it. Parkinson's was an added complication. That wasn't what brought about his death. It was congestive heart failure and he was too old to qualify for a transplant

CHF is one of the most common morbidities caused by diabetes.

31 posted on 07/03/2008 1:20:53 PM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Ditter
Yeah, right. You consume more than 10 times more glutamate, on average, from naturally occurring sources than from added sources. If you react to one source there is no reason you shouldn't react to the other.

At least you know now that MSG does not cause allergic reactions. Unless, of course, you're the first person in history to experience one.

Didn't you promise once never to respond to me again? What happened?

32 posted on 07/03/2008 1:23:44 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: R. Scott

Thanks. I’m sure you’re right about the testing - unfortunately, I come from a long line of folks who wouldn’t see a Doctor until they were knocking at death’s door, and even then kicking and screaming. I guess I inherited some of that ;)

And you are correct about fast food joints. I have a weakness for Arbys and Sonic, places I should be avoiding like the plague. Hopefully I’ll get up the nerve to get tested - I kinda fancy having feet, and the eyes really come in handy when driving!


33 posted on 07/03/2008 1:25:12 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (This tagline is completely naked - STOP STARING!)
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To: Mase

Did I promise not to post to you again? LOL I probably did and meant it at the time. I have read everything I can find on MSG and I know that glutamate is naturally occurring in lots of food that I can eat with no problem but answer me this and I will let you alone. Why can I eat tomatoes, lots of tomatoes but I can’t eat one can of Campbell’s Tomato Soup without experiencing severe heart palpitations that go on for several hours and scare the crap out of me?


34 posted on 07/03/2008 5:03:50 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter
Why can I eat tomatoes, lots of tomatoes but I can’t eat one can of Campbell’s Tomato Soup without experiencing severe heart palpitations that go on for several hours and scare the crap out of me?

Have you asked a doctor? Perhaps a psychiatrist would be best.

35 posted on 07/03/2008 5:09:53 PM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: Glenn

Let me ask you one, Glenn, do you think you are cute?


36 posted on 07/03/2008 5:15:56 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter
do you think you are cute?

No. Never.

I was just trying to help. You seem to be "sickly", as my grandmother might say.

37 posted on 07/03/2008 5:18:06 PM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: reagan_fanatic

I used to be more fearful than I now am - but I still shy away from having new things checked out - symptoms usually go away in a month or so.
My diabetes was found on a routine checkup. Now when I see the doc every six months she follows the diabetes as well as arthritis - it’s almost a full physical with blood work. I content myself with the thought that if anything serious comes along she’ll find it.


38 posted on 07/04/2008 2:41:45 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: Glenn; Ditter; Mase
Ditter is very sensitive. Her body can tell the difference between glutamate from tomatoes and glutamate added at the soup factory. She can probably also tell the difference between the fructose and glucose in HFCS compared to the fructose and glucose in table sugar.
39 posted on 07/05/2008 9:17:11 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are doom and gloomers, union members and liberals so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot; Glenn; Ditter
I think she's railing on chemicals other than MSG because I don't think Campbell's is adding MSG to their soups. Who knows, to someone so fearful of chemicals, she could be fearing just about anything. There are deadly chemicals in everything from coffee, strawberries, potatoes, lima beans and orange juice. I'm sure Ditter steadfastly avoids them along with all the other foods that could kill her.

The rest of us go about our business enjoying these things without worry because we understand that without chemicals there would be no food - or life for that matter.

40 posted on 07/05/2008 10:12:25 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: RileyD, nwJ

My doc called me today with my recent lab results. My A1C was 5.2.

Platelet count was low, though.


41 posted on 08/28/2008 11:31:55 PM PDT by Monitor ("...I love my country more than I hate John McCain..." - Kim du Toit)
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