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PATIENT IGNORED TO DEATH (KINGS COUNTY HOSPITAL OUTRAGE)
NY Post ^ | July 1, 2008 | LARRY CELONA, STEPHANIE COHEN and CATHY BURKE

Posted on 07/01/2008 5:23:13 PM PDT by neverdem

They callously ignored her.

Esmin Green is seen in these infuriating images collapsing on the psychiatric emergency-room floor at Kings County Hospital - stared at by one worker, ignored by a security guard, and finally nudged by a health-care staffer on June 19.

She lay there for an hour before doctors and nurses snapped to attention and tried to revive the 49-year-old Jamaica native.

It was too late.

The shocking video was released by lawyers suing KCH in federal court on an unrelated matter.

"I heard about it and it's horrible how she died like that," said Green's landlady, Beatrice Wallace, of East 94th Street in Brooklyn.

She'd lived there until just days before she died.

The needless death resulted in the immediate firings of the director of psychiatry, the doctor on duty and the director of security, said a spokeswoman for the city's Health and Hospitals Corp., which runs the municipal hospital.

Two nurses and a security guard were suspended pending hearings.

"We are all shocked and distressed by this situation," HHC President Alan D. Aviles said in a statement last night. "It is clear that some of our employees failed to act based on our compassionate standards of care."

He added that "as a result of this tragic incident, we will put into place additional and significant reforms" to protect psych patients.

A federal court order will be signed today, directing the hospital to assemble a search team to fill the spots of the fired staff, and establishing guidelines to reduce the waiting time at the emergency room.

HHC said Green was brought to the psychiatric e.r. by EMS medics on the morning of June 18, suffering from agitation and psychosis.

The patient refused medical review and was admitted against her will.

She was left in the e.r.,...

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: esmingreen; health; healthcare; kingscounty; medicine; mentalhealth; socializedmedicine
Original subtitle in parentheses

Caught on tape: Hospital patient left to die

1 posted on 07/01/2008 5:23:13 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
"It is clear that some of our employees failed to act based on our compassionate standards of care."

Only SOME? How about everyone who saw her lying there?

2 posted on 07/01/2008 5:28:38 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: neverdem
The office of the city's medical examiner said it was still trying to determine why Green died. She had been brought to the hospital suffering from agitation and psychosis, city officials said.
Agitated delirium. Crack.
3 posted on 07/01/2008 5:28:41 PM PDT by xDGx
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To: neverdem

P.S. It is a GOVERNMENT RUN HOSPITAL.


4 posted on 07/01/2008 5:29:13 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: neverdem
Something straight out of The Hospital (1971), one of my favorite flicks. George C Scott and the delectable Dianna Rigg. Barnard Hughes' character (Edmund Drummond) was a hoot. Here's a quote:
Edmund Drummond: So at 9:15 this morning I rang for my nurse...
Bock: Rang for your nurse?
Edmund Drummond: To ensure one full hour of uninterrupted privacy.
Watch it and think about Hillarycare.
5 posted on 07/01/2008 5:30:37 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (If it is going to take 10 years, shouldn't we get started? Drill here, drill now, pay less.)
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To: neverdem

I was just about to post this myself- that was disgusting to watch.


6 posted on 07/01/2008 5:32:00 PM PDT by Dysart
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To: xDGx
Agitated delirium. Crack.

If it was, they would have said it already. It's not hard to test for. I'm betting on misdiagnosis or a prescribed adverse drug reaction.

7 posted on 07/01/2008 5:34:44 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: neverdem
The needless death resulted in the immediate firings of the director of psychiatry, the doctor on duty and the director of security, . . . A federal court order will be signed today, directing the hospital to assemble a search team to fill the spots of the fired staff

Great. And I'm sure there will be plenty of competent, dedicated people lining up to apply for these jobs, which entail managing the unmanageable with both hands tied behind your back by idiotic laws and regulations, while working long hours in a very dangerous neighborhood.

8 posted on 07/01/2008 5:35:39 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: neverdem
of course this should not have happened. but i am familiar with this system. i am sure this woman was a known entity to this hospital. belligerent, drug-addicted, etc...

and while i totally believe that security guards would do this, the doctor's actions surprised me. the ones who work at these places are total bleeding hearts usually. which makes me think this doc knew this woman and simply dismissed this as an act.

9 posted on 07/01/2008 5:38:44 PM PDT by thefactor (the innocent shall not suffer nor the guilty go free...)
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To: neverdem
the city's Health and Hospitals Corp., which runs the municipal hospital

Government-provided health care at its "finest," brought to you by the Democrat Party. It's not called the Donkey (Jackass) Party for nothing.

The sad thing is, if this poor soul was a voter, she probably voted for Democrats.

10 posted on 07/01/2008 5:42:02 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Only a selfish, idiotic coward thinks the way to win in politics is for his own side to lose.)
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To: neverdem
This is a strategy.

It is established in law that if one is ignored in a hospital initially -- that is, no acknowledgement of injury is made -- that neglect even leading to death is not malpractice.

At least, this is how it was explained to me by probably the only honest lawyer in Florida, who counseled me when a hospital ignored my seriously injured son (who thankfully did not die).

The first question was "who is your insurance provider" and when the answer was, "I'm self insured" we were told to wait. And wait. And wait. Until my son threw up in the triage nurse's face.

By that time I had raised so much hell trying to get my son treated that I was arrested for disturbing the peace (hence the discussion with the attorney later).

Yes, it is a strategy. Maybe something like this will begin to put a stop to it.

But, until then, I have, of course, lost all faith in the hospital business.

Fortunately, my son was transferred to a private hospital in another town and the subject of the bill did not even come up until we were checking him out. It was like night and day.

11 posted on 07/01/2008 5:42:38 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (the media vs. the people.)
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To: neverdem

When I had to have hip surgery, due to a stress fracture, I was treated so badly, I felt like a prisoner in a concentration camp. I was left on the porta-potty for two hours the day after surgery. (They forgot me.) I could not use the ‘call’ button or even push the button for my pain meds. It was excruciating.

I was not given a sponge bath for five days. My teeth were not brushed for five days. The food was totally inedible - and in five days, I lost 18 pounds.

On the fifth day, after literally begging for a shower, I was again “forgotten” in the storage room shower, in a wheelchair, unable to move because of the pain meds. Two hours. No curtain - no towel - no shower stall. Just a shower head squirting me for two hours, surrounded with walkers, canes, wheelchairs, and equipment in a huge room.

The doctor had put a sign on the door (at my request): “No one is to touch this patient without first washing their hands”. (I seriously feared MRSA.) In five days, only twice did I ever see anyone wash their hands. They would walk in with gloves already on, and attend to my surgical area. What (and who) did those gloves touch before they entered my room and removed my bandages?

Every day there, I begged for fresh fruit. The day I was to be discharged, the dietician came in to my room with a banana in one hand, an apple in the other. He held them up, and said, “I hear you want fresh fruit. Which one do you want?”

It was the biggest nightmare of my life - and I will never enter a hospital again (electively). My knee has been bone on bone for over five years - you think I would volunteer to go back there again? It will be bone on bone for the rest of my life, rather than endure the horrible treatment again, that I suffered at the hands of uncaring, incompetent, health care workers.

And here is what really angers me. Guess what those five days cost my insurance company? Over $10,000 a day!

Our hospitals are in serious trouble, folks.


12 posted on 07/01/2008 5:49:27 PM PDT by yorkie ( Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass....It's about learning to dance in the rain.)
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To: Wolfstar
The sad thing is, if this poor soul was a voter, she probably voted Democrat.

Guess what FRiend?

She still will be come November!
13 posted on 07/01/2008 5:55:17 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the Skidmark in the panties of American history.)
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To: Wolfstar

“Government-provided health care at its “finest,” brought to you by the Democrat Party. It’s not called the Donkey (Jackass) Party for nothing.

The sad thing is, if this poor soul was a voter, she probably voted for Democrats.”

It said she had been there 24 hours when she fell off the chair.

They also lied about the whole thing, but it was recorded so I think that
is enough for some serious jail time and not just firings.


14 posted on 07/01/2008 5:55:26 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U
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To: TribalPrincess2U

I forgot to add, HillaryCare=ObamaCare.

Heaven help us.


15 posted on 07/01/2008 5:56:20 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U
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To: yorkie

Ye gawds, my sympathies to you for that nightmare!

How about giving Freepers here a heads up on what hospital that was so we can be aware, and pass the word to anyone who might be headed for that chamber of horrors?!?

Good luck, hope you’re mending up and staying that way!


16 posted on 07/01/2008 5:57:43 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the Skidmark in the panties of American history.)
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To: mkjessup

Go here and you will know

Caught on tape: Hospital patient left to die


17 posted on 07/01/2008 6:04:24 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U
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To: mkjessup

See post #1


18 posted on 07/01/2008 6:05:37 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U
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To: thefactor
.... and while i totally believe that security guards would do this, the doctor's actions surprised me. the ones who work at these places are total bleeding hearts usually. which makes me think this doc knew this woman and simply dismissed this as an act.

One has to keep in mind that this was a psychiatric ER.

While somebody throwing themselves on the floor or being sprawled out on the floor at any other ER would immediately raise alarms, maybe having psychiatric patients on the floor was something to be expected from that population.

Imagine being at a restaurant at 7:00 PM and somebody is sprawled on the floor. Something is definitely wrong.

Imagine being on a downtown street at 7:00 PM a block away from that restaurant and a homeless man is lying on the sidewalk with his eyes closed. How many times have we walked past such a person without thinking twice about it?

19 posted on 07/01/2008 6:19:16 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: neverdem

I saw the tapes.

Freakin unbelievable.


20 posted on 07/01/2008 6:21:13 PM PDT by djf (I don't believe in perpetual motion. Perpetual mutton, that's another thing entirely!)
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To: cyborg; Clemenza; Cacique; NYCVirago; The Mayor; Darksheare; hellinahandcart; Chode; ...
McCain supporters hopeful for New York

FReepmail me if you want on or off my New York ping list.

21 posted on 07/01/2008 6:22:41 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
P.S. It is a GOVERNMENT RUN HOSPITAL.

In a state that would elect Hillary Rodham Clinton as a Senator
AFTER 9-11.

Some much for that "Empire State" Bravo Sierra.
22 posted on 07/01/2008 6:23:29 PM PDT by VOA
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To: thefactor
i am sure this woman was a known entity to this hospital. belligerent, drug-addicted, etc...

And you are sure of this because of some facts you read somewhere? Or is speculate the word you maybe mighta shoulda used?

23 posted on 07/01/2008 6:28:40 PM PDT by grellis (By order of the Ingham County Sheriff this tag has been seized for nonpayment of taxes)
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To: neverdem

I live near Kings County Hospital, which unfortunately has had a bad reputation. The news about this person who was left neglected didn’t surprise me at all.


24 posted on 07/01/2008 6:38:48 PM PDT by MoochPooch (I'm a compassionate cynic.)
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To: yorkie

Your experience is similar to a friend of mine. For 5 days ahwnever got her face washed or teeth cleaned. The bed sheets weren’t changed and she was discharged - with two bedsores - and no one at her home to care for her. She couldn’t even walk.

I have another friend, a single guy who just happens to be a millionaire. He got a sponge bath every eight hours. The nurses were all over him. Coincidence? I think not.


25 posted on 07/01/2008 6:47:42 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: neverdem

Government health care strikes again. Barry Hussein wants to guarantee this level of care for every citizen in the USA.
Feel better?


26 posted on 07/01/2008 6:49:12 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: yorkie
It will be bone on bone for the rest of my life, rather than endure the horrible treatment again, that I suffered at the hands of uncaring, incompetent, health care workers.

OMG PLEASE don't settle for a lifetime of pain!! Please ask around, find out where the good hospitals are. They ARE out there, they just don't have the big name recognition of the mega hospitals that people are so attracted to. At small town hospitals, you tend to encounter workers who are extremely loyal, many of them who have been there for 20+ years. These hospitals don't suffer from the employee turnover rate/lack of pride that the mega hospitals are infected with. And since knee replacement surgery is fairly routine these days, you can be confident that even a smaller hospital can do the job competently.

I've worked in the health care industry for 17+ years now. I've also been a patient at hospitals big and small. I can tell you that there are great ones out there, but they are usually the ones that you've never heard of.
27 posted on 07/01/2008 6:51:41 PM PDT by Nathan Jr.
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To: yorkie

What a horrible experience. I can tell you that would never happen in the place where I work. I’m a nurse aide and have never left anyone unattended in the shower. We aren’t even allowed to.


28 posted on 07/01/2008 7:05:18 PM PDT by cyborg (My Mom Lives to Nag Me Another Day!)
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To: thefactor

I’m glad you are of sound mind and body.


29 posted on 07/01/2008 7:06:23 PM PDT by cyborg (My Mom Lives to Nag Me Another Day!)
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To: xDGx

Oh my. Crack. You’re perfectly healthy and have all your marbles. Some people aren’t so lucky.


30 posted on 07/01/2008 7:07:41 PM PDT by cyborg (My Mom Lives to Nag Me Another Day!)
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To: ladyjane

Terrible. You aren’t SUPPOSED to discriminate in nursing care or healthcare in general for that matter. However, I’m not surprised to hear young single moneybags got better treatment. I’d rather not know such details about a patient actually. Some readily volunteer and I usually tell them it doesn’t matter. I take care of everyone just the same.


31 posted on 07/01/2008 7:13:50 PM PDT by cyborg (My Mom Lives to Nag Me Another Day!)
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To: ladyjane; cyborg

Oh, my insurance was paying their salary - so they didn’t have to do a damned thing for me. Nada.

And, I was:

1. A classy lady
2. An intelligent lady
3. A lady that didn’t whine or yell or complain - (I just begged and pleaded)
4. An educated lady
5. A totally shocked and surprised lady - at the treatment I received.

And how was I discriminated against? I was weak - they were strong - and I had no choices but to take what I was given.


32 posted on 07/01/2008 7:40:40 PM PDT by yorkie ( Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass....It's about learning to dance in the rain.)
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To: thefactor
the doctor's actions surprised me. the ones who work at these places are total bleeding hearts usually. which makes me think this doc knew this woman and simply dismissed this as an act.

or just maybe he dismissed it as "well, she finally fell asleep" = after having sat in a hard chair for 24 hours = and, according to the report, patients were sometimes left even longer.

Try sitting for 24 hours in a chair like that - probably without food or water...and see if you might roll off, inable to keep awake.

33 posted on 07/01/2008 7:41:15 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in sending this message but a large number of electrons were terrible agitated)
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To: yorkie

Wow I don’t know what to say except to report them to the Department of Health :(


34 posted on 07/01/2008 7:51:05 PM PDT by cyborg (My Mom Lives to Nag Me Another Day!)
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To: cyborg

It wouldn’t make any difference, Cy. From what I hear - all major hospitals are the same - show up to work - clock in - collect your paycheck - go home and forget it.

There apparently is a very large percentage of patients that have no health care coverage - no insurance. And they demand everything they can get. Every five minutes. And those of us who pay our own way are ignored.


35 posted on 07/01/2008 8:03:33 PM PDT by yorkie ( Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass....It's about learning to dance in the rain.)
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To: yorkie; cyborg

Whenever you go into a hospital you need to have someone right there monitoring your care. Ideally it is a male and a lawyer or a physician. You need to have an advocate there constantly to insure you are getting the right tests, meds and even the right food.

Even with an advocate you’re not always safe. There was a woman who was a writer for the Boston Globe who went into a Boston hospital for chemotherapy. I think she was the health/medical writer and her husband was a lawyer. She and two other women were given the incorrect dose of chemo. She died from the error.

It’s best not to get sick and best to stay out of hospitals if you can.


36 posted on 07/01/2008 8:51:56 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: yorkie

Complaints don’t mean much unless you are willing to post the name of the hospital where you were abused like this.


37 posted on 07/01/2008 8:57:52 PM PDT by ottbmare
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To: yorkie
So you never reported any of your poor treatment? I find that as shocking as the poor care you received.

Two words for your next visit..patient advocate

38 posted on 07/01/2008 8:59:46 PM PDT by linn37 (phlebotomist on duty,its just a little pinch)
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To: ottbmare

Well, darlin’, did I complain? I don’t remember complaining - If I remember correctly - I stated a fact. I stated how I was treated. I do not remember one word of ‘whine’ or ‘complaint’.

I was treated abusively. That is not complaining - it is a fact. I will FM you the name of the hospital - but I do not choose to open myself to a lawsuit or litigation for posting the name of the hospital on a VERY public forum.

I am sure you will understand, Ott. If you don’t, that is not my problem. Have a good night. ;-)


39 posted on 07/01/2008 9:05:54 PM PDT by yorkie ( Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass....It's about learning to dance in the rain.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
But, until then, I have, of course, lost all faith in the hospital business.

If you like it now you'll love "New and Improved" Hillary Care.

40 posted on 07/01/2008 9:06:41 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: linn37

Yes, Linn, I did complain, of course. I told my doctor and I also told his staff. You know what they told me? Write a letter to the Administrator. Join the thousands who have.

My doctor left the hospital and the state. He could no longer perform his talent or exercise his knowledge in such an institution.


41 posted on 07/01/2008 9:29:19 PM PDT by yorkie ( Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass....It's about learning to dance in the rain.)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


42 posted on 07/01/2008 9:52:29 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: neverdem

Sheesh. You pay health care insurance premiums out the rear-end and this is the kind of service you get?


43 posted on 07/01/2008 9:54:45 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: neverdem

The buck stops at Bloomberg’s desk.

Kings County is a NYC owned and run Hospital. Shame on, Miguelito! And you think you should be POTUS.


44 posted on 07/01/2008 10:15:41 PM PDT by Cincinna
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To: thefactor

This shows exactly what Government run Health Care will bring.

That being said, there is absolutely no defense of a Health Care Professional, Doctor, Nurse, Aide, whatever, or security person allowing a human being to suffer and die in an ER while they did nothing.


45 posted on 07/01/2008 10:19:08 PM PDT by Cincinna
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To: Grizzled Bear
If you like it now you'll love "New and Improved" Hillary Care.

You're preaching to the choir there.

46 posted on 07/02/2008 2:52:54 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (the media vs. the people.)
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