Posted on 06/30/2008 10:46:10 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
This quote was from Medea Benjamin, co-founder of Code Pink, an organization that gave $600,000 in cash and supplies in "humanitarian aide" to an insurgent-controlled Fallujah several years ago in our current war (the Marines won anyway, which is perhaps why Code Pink is leading the assault against the Marines in Berkeley).
That is just one toxic outburst is a collection of indefensible comments from the radical fringe of the Democratic Party laughably called "progressives" in a series of personal attacks levied at Presidential candidate John McCain and chronicled by Ben Smith in a Politico article.
Prominent progressive blogger John Aravosis attacked McCain for breaking under brutal torture in North Vietnamese prisons, and labeled the unwilling use of McCain in a North Vietnamese propaganda film as "disloyalty." Tellingly, Aravosis has never uttered similar words of disapproval against Jane Fonda, who willingly and famously posed for propaganda photos on North Vietnamese antiaircraft guns that were used to shoot at American pilots like McCain.
Other angry souls associated with MoveOn.org, , the Huffington Post, and Mother Jones also have expressed interest in attacking McCain's military record.
Democrat Wesley Clark—notable for his scarcity of support in the military, notes fighter pilot Lex—also attacked McCain's military experience as an example of poor leadership experience, without, or course, expressing how Obama's thin resume has prepared him to lead anything as consequential as a Cub Scout Troop.
We've known that Barack Obama's base among the radical fringe would bring out some long-seated uglinesses in part of the Democratic Party that makes up his base, but I don't think that anyone could have expected it would come out this soon, this hard, this transparently.
I wouldn’t consider anyone in Code Pink an American.
Including Kerry?
Kerry was in Vietnam?
“I would not consider the direct offspring of Hitler Medea Benjamin as an American but as a traitor and piece of scum”
I can’t imagine anyone wanting to have sex with her. She IS contraception.
Kerry gained "hero" status because he supposedly threw away his medals away and went before the congress and sold out his fellow soldiers by calling them murderers and plunderers and referring to them with an elitist and affectatious pronounciation of Genghis Khan.
“Code Pink Founder”.....is an anti-American hag.
The MSM will have it’s hands full trying to keep these loony moonbats on the back pages.....................
Then her comment applies to McCain’s critic Wesley Clark just as much as it applies to McCain.
The creature on the right is better looking.
Wow, hadn't heard that - did he get any medals?
Yeah, I heard that he presented some medals to himself before he threw other people’s medals over a fence.
I don't recall the communists on the Left denouncing this man's military service in Vietnam during the 2004 election. Instead we heard how much more heroic Kerry was and how Bush didn't "really" serve. We NEEDED a war "hero" from Vietnam that election.
Here we now have a candidate who suffered TORTURE for YEARS under the North Vietnamese Communists and they are still RA RA for the Commies.
We must fight man made global stupidity.
It is a crisis. Every day I see reports of global stupidity levels rising.
This problem cannot be solved by mere intellectual “offset” credits.
They’re just displaying their patriotism.
We just have to figure for what country.
Thank goodness you joined FR to save us with your philosophy . There are NO unimportant jobs in the military . You either did your duty , that which is owed , or you didn’t . Nobody needs you to declare anybody a hero .
(Code Pink Founder: “I Wouldn’t Characterize Anybody Who Fought in Vietnam As A War Hero.”)
Thats okay PINKO. As a Vietnam era Veteran and an American, I would not characterize or consider YOU to be an American, so anything you have to say is pretty much less then dog crap..............
I’ve heard readings of transcipts of what the men with McCain suffered and did while in captivity.
Hand making their own American flag to continue their loyalty to this country, an action that cause further beatings for one of the men and yet he made another flag for the group.
An elaborate code system by which they communicated (one of the men could hear radio broadcasts and shared news).
If I recall, McCain was offered an opportunity to leave but he was not permitted to take the other men with him so he declined.
If the Code Pinko’s headline quote can be taken on its face value, if NO US servicemen were “heroes” in Vietnam, and we know about the “war criminals”, is it a stretch to tie the Left’s rhetoric together and think that maybe they believe that McCain and the others DESERVED the torture they received at the hands of the North Vietnamese Communists?
It was not that the Left thought that we were wrong to intervene in a civil war. The Communists on the Left wanted a North Vietnamese Communist VICTORY over South Vietnam. Jane Fonda said we’d ALL hope to live under Communism if we were only bright enough to understand what it was.
Yes. Did he neglect to mention that to you?
He probably ALSO forgot to tell you that he won three purple hearts over there...
;^)
(That is just one toxic outburst is a collection of indefensible comments from the radical fringe of the Democratic Party laughably called “progressives)
radical fringe of the Democrat Party???
Surely you jest.
This is standard DNC issued rethoric.
This is bread and butter from the campaigns of both Clinton and Obama.
This is everyday Democrat Party Machine talking point material.
But... but...
I’ve seen pictures of those medals hanging on Mr.Kerry’s Senate office wall.
How can that be???
>> Code Pink Founder: “I Wouldn’t Characterize Anybody Who Fought in Vietnam As A War Hero.”
Then I remain glad that you are on the extreme fringe of American society.
Only a truly disturbed individual can consider an obnoxious pink-wearing hag that has never sacrificed anything in her pathetic little life a “hero”, and John McCain — a veteran that sacrificed 5-years of his life to a POW Camp, and lost the ability to raise his arms above his shoulders — a “non-hero”.
Heroes sacrifice. Obnoxious twits merely bitch at those who sacrifice.
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Ohh..that’s a good one. May I borrow it?
YearningToUnderstand member “Since Jun 30, 2008”
Looks like the trolls are out and about once again. You’d think after all these years they wouldn’t be so obvious.
From Politico: I know and like McCain," said Tom Hayden, a former California state senator and prominent anti-war activist. "From my own perspective and that of many anti-war activists of that era, the fact that he bombed North Vietnam some 25 times, probably killing civilians, gets blurred with the facts that he suffered through that long prison ordeal, then also went on to promote diplomatic relations between the two countries."
"It's like asking a guy that served his jail term here — you'd say he's done his time so that's behind him," Hayden said.
Ah, so this is the game or playbook that they are going to go by. Were they not the same gum flappers, that stated that anyone who did not fight or served was a chickenhawk? Word-up to the 527-mouthpieces for the candidate-those middle name cannot be mentioned, we know the game you are playing and we will not roll over and let you get away with this crap./Just Asking - seoul62........
She looks like she likes being cuffed and MAN handled.
It's quite simple, really. Kerry was in VietNam. He was not a hero. Ergo, not everyone who goes in-country is a hero.
Code Pink headquarters would be a great site for a napalm test range, or maybe a dump site for all the remaining agent orange. What a knot of puss-soaked crones. How in the name of God did we ever become tolerant of such trash?
No, but it does make you a patriot.
A hero is someone who goes above and beyond the call.
...and one who suffers greatly as a patriot (both famous and unknown): i.e. Nathan Hale, Maj. Gen. Joshua Chamberlain, Maj. Gen. Thomas J. "Stonewall" Jackson, Lt. Col. John MaCrae, Sgt. Daniel Daly, USMC; Audie Murphy, and also John McCain.
I beg to differ. Enlisting in the US Military in any Branch and regardless of being placed in a combat zone makes you a true hero in my book.
By doing so you have put the freedoms and liberty of all Americans above your own.
At anytime you wear a Military uniform you could be placed into a combat situation.
You earn precious few dollars to obtain the contempt of the American Media and about half of American Politicians and Government.
You earn the right to work long hours, not know what holidays are. You also earn the right to be criminally charged for doing your job..
You earn the right to have a flag given to your family when you give your life for the defense of freedom and liberty for millions of people that would not give you the time of day if they passed you in the street and you were in uniform.
In the past month I have attended 2 funerals as a flag bearer and escorter of young men that gave their lives fighting in the Terrorist War. I have another one later this week.
Its is not that these young men are dead that they are heroes. Its that they willing risked there lives to protect my family and my families freedoms. They would have been heroes to me if they had survived and gotten back home to their families safely.
People forget that Clark was the Commander in Charge of the assault on the Branch Davidian compound in Waco. He was run out of the Army for various reasons, and he surfaces by comparing himself to McCain? He is not worthy of tying McCain’s shoes.
Well put. Thank you.
I suggest you take your head out of your butt for a moment and consider a few points aside from the 'semantics' on the definition of the word 'hero.'
Point #1. Anyone who 'volunteers' to strap on a military fighter jet as a chosen profession has some serious guts. War or no war, those machines are very unforgiving and will kill you in a moment if you do not show them all due respect. They are not at all like playing the NASCAR experience.
Point #2. Double the guts factor for anyone either brave or insane enough to volunteer to operate that same treacherous machine off and back on to the pitching deck of a carrier.
Point #3. After being man enough to accomplish both points #1 and 2, now get in that dangerous machine, fly it off that dangerous deck and take it into the most heavily defended air space in the world where people who have demonstrated great skills in shooting down aircraft are trying to kill you just as they have also killed many of your closest friends.
I'll allow you to sit in your armchair and define the word hero and I don't really give a damn what definition you come up with. I'm more interested in people who have shown the guts to put themselves in harm's way for a greater cause.
He says he did...but I'd take that with a grain of rice... ; )
Uh. Yes.
I think.
People forget that Clark was the Commander in Charge of the assault on the Branch Davidian compound in Waco. He was run out of the Army for various reasons, and he surfaces by comparing himself to McCain? He is not worthy of tying McCain’s shoes.
To the credit if Kerry, he and everybody else who served in Vietnam passed up the safe haven of Canada available to those who loved their precious hide more than their country.
And thanks to Carter, the biggest cost the Canada option entailed has been taken away.
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