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Posted on 06/30/2008 9:20:50 AM PDT by kristinn
John McCain's presidential campaign sent out an e-mail today announcing the formation of the McCain Truth Squad to fight back attacks such as Wesley Clark's yesterday on Face the Nation.
The Politico posted the e-mail:
All: Please join us for a conference call launching the McCain Truth Squad -- a new group aimed at countering the recent attacks on John McCain’s military record. On the call will be Truth Squad leaders, including fellow POWs Col. Bud Day, USAF (Ret.) (Medal of Honor) and Lt.Col. Orson Swindle, USMC (Ret.), as well as Carl Smith, retired Navy pilot who served with Sen. McCain.
Looks like McCain has let bygones be bygones with Col. Day given their differences over the Swift Boat Veterans and POWs for Truth which McCain opposed and Day helped lead in 2004.
Col. Day has a much more significant connection with McCain than any past campaign can varnish - he nursed McCain back to life as his cellmate.
I read that it was McCain that set Col. Day’s broken arm.
I just hope they are able to put together a tech-savvy team. I do not trust the Obamacon techies, they’re unscrupulous and know how to subvert the internet resources (example - overloading the spam filters on Google for all anit-Obama blogs) That is the mentality of the people we will be dealing with this election. If they can steal this one, they will do so.
BTTT
Excellent!
I am glad they are doing this but....you would have to be willfully ignorant to buy into what General Clark said yesterday. Everyone has known of McCain’s war record for many, many years. His injuries are hardly open to political interpretation. One talking head moment cannot change reality, and you have to wonder what made anyone think it could.
I read the articles about their time together as POWs. POWERFUL stuff. Maybe Day can change McCain’s politically motivated snap judgment of the SBVfT.
A smear is a smear. Saying McCain shouldn’t answer Weasley’s smear because “everyone knows” his war record is like saying Obama shouldn’t answer the rumor that he’s still a Muslim because “everyone knows” he’s a Christian. And we KNOW nobody’s going to say OBAMA can’t answer a smear.
For anyone linguists who collect oxymorons, then I dare say they have found themselves a live one with that term.
Kind’a like a person with the name Biblebelter who likes to slander others. Another oxymoronic situation in the making.
I agree that McCain should respond forcefully. Any thinking person would know that the charge is base politics, but the trouble is half the people in the country don't think, they are emotion voters and will be swayed by their feelings.
FYI, my screen name is a geographic reference. I live at the intersection of the Rustbelt, Cornbelt, and Biblebelt. I have never slandered anybody that I am aware as the term "slander" is primarily reserved for a legal course of action. But yes I do ridicule, demean and belittle Senators like the RINO relic who are by and large a lying and unprincipled lot irregardless of the R or D attached to their elected titles.
Exactly.
Why? Overall, as politicians go, McCain's been more honest than most...it's been whether or not conservatives AGREE with those positions that's been the problem.
Whether the Bush campaign lied about McCain in South Carolina in 2000 is something that I do not have a strong opinion on. But I have a much stronger and fresher memory of 2008. I do know that McCain intentionally and dishonestly misrepresented what Romney said about withdrawal and date certain and that has nothing to do with any ideological disagreement I have with McCain nor was it because I was a supporter of Romney which I wasn't.
NOTE TO MCCAIN STAFF AND OTHER MCCAINIACS:
I AM accusing your man of pandering, lying, cowardice, and dishonesty, and I SINCERELY hope that one of you will put this message in front of him.
It is POSSIBLE - but by no means certain - that my family and I will be able to cast ballots for McCain this fall without losing our breakfasts all over the voting machines. But all of us reserve our ENTHUSIASM - and our $$$$ - for conservative candidates, not the unprincipled COWARDS who go behind closed doors to pander to gays, illegal aliens, and the greenie weenie gaggle.
Last night I had an extended conversation with a lifelong, diehard republican. He and his wife have been attending the national convention for years, he has run for Congress in Arkansas, been a county chairman, and will be heavily involved in the campaign this year in North MS. He spent an hour pleading with me to support McCain - and I spent the same time telling him how disgusted I am with his candidate.
In my opinion, McCain displays a total inability to grasp simple economic principles, illustrated by his populist “fairness” verbal meanderings about taxes. On the other hand, he has adopted the big-business view of illegals as a pool of cheap indentured labor, supported by our taxes for their education, welfare, and medical care. And I am enraged by his buying into the global warming hoax, giving full credibility to the hoaxers without giving any thought to the fully credible case for the other side.
I have no problem with voluntary conservation measures, or with electricity from nuclear power, as well as wind, solar and solar thermal, geothermal, and other fringe sources. But electricity will never move people or things around the planet and around the Country, although it will have limited use for short distances.
A hundred - or a thousand - years from now, that job still will fall to light liquid hydrocarbon compounds in a tank on board the vehicle. Hydrogen will never do that, and neither will ethanol. However, the source of these hydrocarbons will change. Instead of finding pre-assembled molecules that we can break into convenient sized pieces, we will have to assemble them from elemental ingredients - Carbon, hydrogen, and ENERGY.
All the carbon we need can be found in the tiny fraction of our atmosphere that is carbon dioxide (CO2), and all of the hydrogen can be found in our oceans (H2O). And enough energy to produce the precursor molecules (kerogens and bitumens) can be captured from the Sun, just as plants have done for millions of years - although we might want to supplement that with some of those sources of electricity mentioned above.
But until we have these new sources on line, we need to continue to tap the reserves of crude oil our planet has provided to us, without the artificial hobbles and bindings imposed on us by these Luddites.
DRILL HERE, DRILL NOW!
NOTE 2: This is personal to Mr. McCain, and NOT to the person who posted this thread. McCain ignores us, and I have no intention of ignoring that fact.
I said that as a politician he’s been more honest than most, not that he’s totally honest. It’s no different than his “straight talk” platform.
One thing McCain is not is a liar. There may be plenty to disagree with him on but so far as I know, he has done the things he said he would do.
So as entertaining as it may be to take pot shots, when you sit back and insinuate in writing that McCain can’t tell the truth, you are slandering him and his record.
Obama sends his appreciation. You can hang out in the Wes Clark club now.
Clark is a wussy little guy. You just can’t look at him and think “man.” He has to be dealing with a Napoleonic complex or something along that line. Not to mention, his political ambition seems to know no bounds. Just can’t stand him.
On the other hand, is there anyone with more credibility on these issues than Bud Day? He and McCain may have had their differences, but they are cut of the same cloth. Clark just doesn’t make that grade.
This needs to be expanded to everything else....
There is a ring of truth into what another liar Adrianna Huffington said that McCain said. I believe his diposition such that he did tell Huffington that he did not vote for Bush in 2000. But when he did say that he voted for Bush, that he was telling the truth because he was lying to Huffington as a way of cultivating favor and his maverick status in the MSM which is no more, because he is no longer the MSM's favorite also ran but the candidate.
Amazingly, "Kristinn" is actually a stage name (and costume) used by John McCain so that he can appear in public without being recognized.
And thus it turns out that Mr. McCain is a devoted FReeper, and is sure to read and act upon your personal post to him.
Nice group of friends you’re running with there.
“If this is limited to his military service, it accomplished NOTHING... in fact, it makes him look weak and defensive...”
I completely disagree with this.
“This needs to be expanded to everything else....”
But, I agree with this.
Bud Day is exactly what Johnny Mac needs right now, somebody who isn’t afraid of the truth or afraid of speaking it. Colonel Day fits that bill to a tee.
Uh, where did I say he shouldn’t answer this smear? I think I wrote: “I am glad they are doing this.” Please read my entire message again for meaning.
At least I would never invite the likes of Mr and Mrs Puff Daschle for house guests to discuss how many pieces of gold it would take to ditch my RINO act and become an official member of the opposing team. And I would never get close enough to a drunk that takes women swimming in his Oldsmobile to have my name hypenated before his name on a piece of legislation which formalizes the sellout of American nationhood and sovereignity. I don't get that reaching across the aisle business when you spend most of your political energy on that side of the aisle in the first place.
Well you sure have been spending a lot of time and energy helping the cause of all those you have just been listing.
Not exactly another oxymoron but definitely paradoxical I would say.
Let's stop dancing and get over with it. You're voting for the RINO relic and I NEVER will. Play the only card the McCainiacs on this forum can play, the traitor card. Call me a traitor and we got closure. I do not get mad when people call me a traitor for NOT voting for either of these two "messiahs" running not on any political platform but on a mission to save the country from the other. That is all I ever get from the McCain kool aid crowd, you should be scared if Bambi gets in office and you are a traitor for allowing him to get office. Okay, I am a stupid and I am a traitor for NEVER voting for the intemperate old geezer. I am too stupid to know I am a traitor and too stupid to be scared of a Barry presidency like you are. Shake in you boots that Barry is going to get elected, as for me, I ain't scared of a Barry presidency. You a very wise and scared puppy and in your wisdom and in your fear you will for vote Barry. I am nothing more than a unabashedly unafraid treacherous fool for not seeing the wisdom in voting for the crossdressing intemperate Keating Five Guy.
If you are not scared of an Obama presedency (which I am not either) why are you so scared of a McCain presedency.
BTW - I hereby refute all the things you say I am wanting to say about you. All I did was cite the group you were agreeing with and aiding. Please put words in someone elses mouth.
That being aside, why are you wasting your time attacking McCain. If you want to assume that both are bad then I guess that’s your business, but you are selling McCain short in my opinion. That to is your rught but back to the start of this whole exchange, you ought to try to confine your entertainment to the facts of your dislike and avoid slander, IMHO.
Also, irrelevant of fear, why aren’t you putting this energy into preventing Obama. He is obviously bad for the country. McCain is less bad (I believe he will get good things done and 4 years of McCain will leave America stronger and closer to the constitution than it is TODAY), so again irrelevant of fear, why not work for the best possible outcome.
*I ain’t scared of a Barry presidency*
Of course not, you are in a remote state with 522,000 population.
You have no clue to the real world.
I live in a county the size of the state of Conn. with over 3 million pop.
The largest population of military in the U.S. bases here and wanting Obama as their commander in chief is spitting
in the face of the military.
If you feel comfortable with Obama and his Marxist bunch, you also might feel comfortable at DU or Daily KOS where you can be with mutual left wingers.
Some of us don’t agree with all of McCain’s views but
we must win the war we are in.
Yeah, shame Juan needs Bud Day. McCain sure did a weak job in his own defense.
Really pathetic.
Yeah, shame Juan needs Bud Day. McCain sure did a weak job in his own defense.
Really pathetic.
I ain't scared of no RINO relic presidency, if I were I would be voting for Barry.
You are obviously an either or kinda of person. It is America, I will exercise my right to vote, but I will leave the Presidential box unchecked. That is my right as well, NOT to vote for President. As I stated before, "slander" is a term of art in the legal profession, what I am engaging in is ridicule.
It is America, and I have that right.
What I am trying to do is keep my ridicule to the big boys who are on the public stage NOT fellow Freepers.
I WOULD NEVER tell a fellow Freeper who to vote for or even tell him that he should vote. I DO NOT CARE who you vote for, and I would NEVER ridicule you for voting for the RINO relic or ever saying that you would vote for him. Voting is a choice, I am fine with whatever you do.
But you are TOO sensitive and take the DESERVED ridicule of your boy Juan personally. Politics is not a game for the weak and you should stop obsessing over the fact, that A JERK LIKE ME keeps running down your boy, that is free speech, that is politics, that is America. What I am saying is tame to what the likes of some of the founders such as Alexander Hamilton used to say about public political figures. He said them in a paper under a nom de plume, but everyone pretty much knew who was saying those things.
I am going to keep exercising my right to ridicule and criticize both the RINO relic and Barry the Marxist. This is America, and that is my right. Get over it and stop trying to interfere with a political discourse that goes back to our founding fathers but that may be a little to harsh and mean-mean spirited for your new millenianial post-modern sensibilities.
As I have stated from time to time on this forum, I do not live in Wyoming, but I proudly fly its flag on my FR profile page because I am so proud to have been born there. I actually live in a very very blue socialist state that I am ASHAMED to associate myself with even under the anonymity of a screen name.
I refuse to vote FOR anyone simply out of FEAR of the other.
I do not care who you vote for, I trust America and those who do choose to vote for Presidency, I am willing to accept the outcome.
I actually think McCain can win without my vote, and I have stated time and time again that he should choose Lieberman as his VP. Your post recognizes that is what this election is after all, simply a choice between an anti-war Democrat in Barry, and a pro-war Democrat in McCain. Their position on the war is essentially the choice.
I just KNEW it was my lucky day! My wife came home with a coupon for $100 if free gas, and I got a letter from the IRS telling me that my stimulus check will be sent to us next month.
The free gas requires me to pay $5 to buy $100 worth of un-free gas each month, in order to receive $25 each month as a “gift certificate” to be spent at the gas station. Yeah, that’ll work. And although I’ll cash the government check when it gets here, this whole scheme is on the stupid party’s stupid list. It truly is the classic combination of (1) the check is in the mail; (2) I’m from the government and I’m here to help you; and (3) I’ll still love you on the morning of November 5th.
Why are you so angry with me over exercising MY RIGHT to speak out and persuade others on this issue? (You are others in this case).
Why are you ordering me to stop exercising my rights. Don’t you oppress me!
As I have said the RINO relic is a pro-war Democrat. And you definitely in the right camp. Oldest Democrat trick in the book is to play the victim card. No doubt about it, I just be a old mean internet fascist ordering about and oppressing the messiah McCain's missionary minions. Don't oppress me. Don't oppress me. Don't oppress me. That is quite a squeal, you got there. I plead guilty, I am fascist internet jack booted thug oppressor, who takes pleasure in walking all over the crusaders in McCain' s RINO army.
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Actually you’re just a big puss (meow).
First you call a better man a liar without any way of backing it up.
Then you cite Arianna Huffington as your source.
Then you accuse the BETTER man, BETTER CONSERVATIVE than yourself of conspiring to join the Democrats.
Then when you can’t back ANY of it up, you say you were just poking fun.
Then you start barking on about your rights as if by simply disagreeing with you and challenging all your stupid trash you are having your right stepped on.
Then you take a comedic line from a Monty Pythong movie and try to turn it into some kind of attack back on someone who knows what a joke is.
Look, it’s OK you got a little far out on the limb and have no REAL way out. Just leave it alone why don’t you. Go on back to your Paulbot studio and try to rework you paleo-moron lines over again and try again next week.
PS - I think Hamilton would vote for McCain and laugh at you. I channeled him to help me write the last post.
That is the most tender and touching endearment ever posted to me on FR. And to be thoughtful enough to add a cute little sound effect was so considerate. Of course, I am just a big pussy cat. FYI, not quite as big a Garfield. You do not fool me one bit, sweet talking like that has gotten you quite far.
LOL
McCain bump for the truth.
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