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Life in Putin's Russia
The Washington Post ^ | Sunday, June 22, 2008 | Julia Latynina

Posted on 06/24/2008 9:17:29 PM PDT by Dick Holmes

MOSCOW On Nov. 9, 2007, during a special operation in the village of Chemulga, in the republic of Ingushetia, Russian special forces shot and killed an individual by the name of Rakhim Amriyev. Eyewitnesses said that they shot him in the head and placed an automatic rifle beside his body. Then, as dozens of villagers who had run out of their homes looked on, the troops used an armored personnel carrier to demolish a wall of the one-room house where Amriyev lived and announced that he had died in a shootout.

You may ask how I can be sure that things happened this way -- that Amriyev didn't fire back, that he wasn't a terrorist and that the automatic rifle was planted. I'm absolutely certain -- because Rakhim Amriyev was 6 years old.

The most striking thing about everyday life in the Russia of Vladimir Putin (and make no mistake, it is Putin's Russia, despite the election of a new president, hand-picked by the great man) is the incredible corruption of the courts, the police, the special forces -- all the institutions that are supposed to uphold law and order in a democracy and that in Russia today have been transformed into a cancer that's devouring the state. Consider these further examples:

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: corrupt; kgb; putin; thugs
This might be beating a dead horse, but Putin is the guy, when Bush was asked if he could trust him, said, "I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straightforward and trustworthy. We had a very good dialogue. I was able to get a sense of his soul; a man deeply committed to his country and the best interests of his country."
1 posted on 06/24/2008 9:17:29 PM PDT by Dick Holmes
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To: Dick Holmes

I was hoping someone would blame President Bush rather than the ruthless thug Putin.

Thanks for stepping up.

That was really brave of you. for some reason you are not afraid of someone locating you and dropping some polonium on you— must be nice.

Please share more pearls of wisdom.


2 posted on 06/24/2008 9:24:19 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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To: lonestar67

“I was hoping someone would blame President Bush rather than the ruthless thug Putin.” I blame Putin for being a ruthless KGB commie thug, and Bush for being taken in by him. You got a problem with that?


3 posted on 06/24/2008 9:31:46 PM PDT by Dick Holmes
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To: Dick Holmes

“all the institutions that are supposed to uphold law and order in a democracy and that in Russia today have been transformed into a cancer that’s devouring the state.”

Russia became a democracy...when?

Oh sure - we watched Russia changed in the late 80s and early 90s. There was hope when “perestroika” was the buzzword.
But I don’t ever remember a time where it was reported that Russia had made it - that they had made the transformation.

Now we have a KGB criminal in charge who is behaving (surprise surprise!) like a KGB criminal.

We were all expecting....what exactly?


4 posted on 06/24/2008 9:36:23 PM PDT by Scotswife
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Eyewitnesses said that they shot him in the head and placed an automatic rifle beside his body.==

Yeah yeah. They always told so. Any terrorist is innocent. Ask any eyewitness in Faludga for example they will tell you same story. Americans shot him to head then placed automatic rifle beside his corpse.


5 posted on 06/25/2008 2:22:12 AM PDT by RusIvan (ABM can be used to fend off the weakered by first strike reciprocal answer.)
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To: Dick Holmes
Putin and his hand picked Kremlin puppet are arming all of America's and Israel's worst enemies. The neo-Soviet energy fueled empire is more dangerous then ever.

'We will bury you, but first weaken you through our proxies'

6 posted on 06/25/2008 2:24:29 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is not 'free'.)
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To: Dick Holmes

Addition.
This particular case happened in November 2007. The troppers didn’t even see that boy who was killed. They surrounded house then asked everyone to get out but someone shoot to him form house so they shoot back overwhelming fire. One bullet got ricoshet from wall to head of boy. It was admitted by authority.

SO there were not no planted automatic rifle whatso ever. You article is just anti-Putin propaganda.


7 posted on 06/25/2008 2:31:36 AM PDT by RusIvan (ABM can be used to fend off the weakered by first strike reciprocal answer.)
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To: RusIvan

I don’t buy these kinds of stories. From my perspective, all nations are opportunists. It was hoped by all that Russia and the U.S. could jointly cooperate on a massive scale in many areas outside of aeorospace industry. That this has not occured is indeed very dissapointing. Putin in my opinion, broke the faith first with targeted assasinations and jailings of dissenters, but a six year old boy? Not buying into it. Russia is playing it’s Iranian puppet too hard. This will result in not simply the destruction of Israel, Russia becoming the new economic global anchor (I believe such will occur) to benefit Russian people, this will result in nuclear annihalation for both nations. If Russia was smart, it would begin to reach out to the U.S. directly to offer aid in certain areas yet keep it’s economic advantages, particularly in energy. I don’t count it though and that is indeed a shame.


8 posted on 06/25/2008 7:12:56 AM PDT by quant5
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To: Dick Holmes
There is lots of blame as to who lost Russia.

Clinton started it with Kosovo and Bush drove it home with expanding NATO in their back yard.

I can understand why they don’t trust us and heck I don’t trust them either. But what we need is a new approach to improve our relationship. They would be a powerful ally if we could bring them into the democratic fold.

9 posted on 06/25/2008 8:30:59 AM PDT by usurper (Spelling or grammatical errors in this post can be attributed to the LA City School System)
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And what, exactly, makes Putin’s Russia worse than Gorbachev’s Russia? Brezhnev’s Russia? Khrushchev’s Russia? Stalin’s Russia? Tsar Nikolai’s Russia?

Oh, nothing. All righty then.


10 posted on 06/25/2008 8:34:43 AM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: usurper
I want to warn Americans. As a people, you are very naive about Russia and its intentions. You believe because the Soviet Union no longer exists, Russia now is your friend. It isn't, and I can show you how the SVR is trying to destroy the U.S. even today and even more than the KGB did during the Cold War.
--Sergei Tretyakov, 2007

Sergei Tretyakov, AKA Comrade J, was a Russian spy who defected to the U.S. in 2000. Prior to his defection, he was director of over 60 spies and over 150 informers in NYC alone - under Putin's authority.

11 posted on 06/25/2008 8:38:18 AM PDT by sandyeggo
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To: RusIvan
This particular case happened in November 2007. The troppers didn’t even see that boy who was killed. They surrounded house then asked everyone to get out but someone shoot to him form house so they shoot back overwhelming fire. One bullet got ricoshet from wall to head of boy. It was admitted by authority.

I couldn't find a page in English that takes this line. there were a few like this that take more the author's point of view. Did you read the rest of the Post article? What did you think of the other examples?

12 posted on 06/25/2008 10:01:43 AM PDT by Dick Holmes
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To: Dick Holmes

Russia has become a country run by and for the Russian Mafia/ex-KGB, and Putin is the Don.


13 posted on 06/25/2008 11:23:51 AM PDT by PsyOp (Truth in itself is rarely sufficient to make men act. - Clauswitz, On War, 1832.)
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To: sandyeggo

Sergei Tretyakov, AKA Comrade J, was a Russian spy who defected to the U.S. in 2000.==

Defector is defector. Any defectors say that. You better believe not traitors but those americans who traveled and lived in russia. Surely ther are thousands now. Even in Moscow the american community in few thousands all times. Better ask those people about Russia and disregard some stinky russian traitors.


14 posted on 06/26/2008 4:14:30 AM PDT by RusIvan (ABM can be used to fend off the weakered by first strike reciprocal answer.)
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To: Dick Holmes

http://www.sptimes.ru/index.php?action_id=100&story_id=23608

“..Ramzan Amriyev said in an interview that a special commando unit surrounded his house in the village of Chemulga early Friday, knocked down the door and put him, his wife and their four children face down on the floor.

The troops then opened fire over their heads on other rooms in the house, Amriyev said. When the shooting ended, they found their 6-year-old son, Rakhim, dead with a gunshot wound to the head. ..”

This article describe another picture of this story. Commandos stormed into house. Took few relative lay down them (notice none kiled at this moment). Next they open fire to other room wher later they found dead boy.

Seems to me. They saw something in other room diceded that is the threat and opened fire. Like policemen in America takes no chances. Agree such things happened in United States frequantly when they came to apprehend bad boys in thier family houses.

“..Police said they suspected that a militant was hiding in the house. Turygin, the prosecutor, said Amriyev, the owner of the house, was suspected of rebel links and a search for him was under way. ..”
Here is the “probable cause” why they stormed its house in the first place.

About “planted AK rifle” in this thread article is just correpondent hoax. In sake of anti-Putin propaganda cause. For me propaganda is same stinky and dupy anti-Putin or else.


15 posted on 06/26/2008 4:27:06 AM PDT by RusIvan (ABM can be used to fend off the weakered by first strike reciprocal answer.)
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"This article describe another picture of this story." Not really. The reporter did a piss-poor job, and the story is incomplete.

'The region’s chief prosecutor, Yury Turygin, said in a statement that the boy was killed in a skirmish between security forces and militants hiding in the house, but he did not say which side had fired the fatal shot.'

But the police rounded up everyone, made them vacate, and even demolished the building: 'Police then rammed the Amriyev’s house with their armored personnel carrier, destroying the building. Police said they suspected that a militant was hiding in the house.' The police had control of the scene and the captives. Was there really a skirmish? And if so, where was the alleged gun that the family had?

BTW, no comment on the rest of the article, eh?

16 posted on 06/26/2008 8:52:09 PM PDT by Dick Holmes
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To: Scotswife
Russia became a democracy...when? Oh sure - we watched Russia changed in the late 80s and early 90s. There was hope when “perestroika” was the buzzword. But I don’t ever remember a time where it was reported that Russia had made it - that they had made the transformation.

"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."

But at least they are out of Poland, Czech Republic, East Germany, etc.

17 posted on 06/26/2008 8:55:38 PM PDT by dfwgator ( This tag blank until football season.)
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BTW, no comment on the rest of the article, eh? ==

Right. Russian proverb says: “You need to eat one spoon of supper to realize that supper is spoiled.” Another one: “Small lie invoke the big distrust”.
So if I see one lie then I just discard whole article as untrue.


18 posted on 06/30/2008 1:17:22 AM PDT by RusIvan (ABM can be used to fend off the weakered by first strike reciprocal answer.)
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To: RusIvan

I don’t buy this story at all! It sounds strangely but surely fake.

Who is Julia Latynina anyway? Do you know...


19 posted on 07/09/2008 12:18:36 PM PDT by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! +)
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To: RusIvan; All
Oh now we know a little something about the lady who wrote this rubbish-—she's got quite the reputation for ....FICTION!

The Washington Compost must be scraping the barell....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yulia_Latynina

20 posted on 07/09/2008 12:21:57 PM PDT by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! +)
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