Posted on 06/23/2008 2:02:34 PM PDT by neverdem
Legislation that would make it illegal for holders of a New Jersey handgun-purchaser permit to buy more than one firearm during any calendar month is going before the state assembly on Monday, June 23.
"There's no good reason why anyone would need to purchase large quantities of handguns all at the same time," said Assemblywoman Joan M. Quigley (D-32nd District), a sponsor of Assembly Bill 339, in a news release. "Criminal applications or unrecorded resale are the obvious implications of purchasing handguns in bulk."
Quigley added that passage of the measure -- a similar version of which was approved by the Assembly last year but failed in the state Senate -- "would help curtail gun access by criminal street gangs."
State Sen. Brian P. Stack (D-33rd District) agreed with the goal of Quigley's bill in a statement of his own.
"Current laws allow one-stop shopping for gangs to outfit their membership with weapons," Stack noted. "Prohibiting individual handgun purchases to one a month will help curb the number of guns that end up on the street and in the hands of criminals."
Under another provision, law enforcement agencies and officers purchasing handguns for use by officers in the performance of their duties would be exempt from the measure, as would collectors of firearms as curios or relics who have a valid Collector of Curios and Relics License issued by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.
A buyer or seller who violates the bill could face up to 18 months in prison, a fine of up to $10,000 or both.
However, Dave Workman, communications director with the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms (CCRKBA), told Cybercast News Service on Friday that the measure is unnecessary because honest citizens "have already been pre-certified by the state" through a 13-point background investigation.
Multiple handgun permits could not be used during the same 30-day period, Workman said, and permits that could not be used before their expiration date would become useless.
But worst of all, he said, the legislation fails to address the true source of "gun violence" -- criminals. A New Jersey court recently invalidated similar legislation brought at the local level, holding that there is no rational relationship between restricting the number of firearms purchased by law-abiding citizens and crime.
Still, Quigley's measure isn't the only legislation coming before the state Assembly in the next few weeks that has proponents of gun rights concerned.
Assembly Bill 2116, sponsored by state Assemblyman Reed Gusciora (D-15th District), would ban the sale of .50-calibre rifles, which the New Jersey official called "powerful battlefield-styled weapons that would be devastatingly lethal in the hands of terrorists."
"In a post-9/11 society, there is simply no reason for .50-caliber weapons to be available for civilian use," noted Gusciora in a news release. The weapon has a firing range of up to 2,000 yards, and its ammunition is the largest round available in the civilian marketplace.
"With the continued rise in gang violence across the state and the fact that New Jersey possesses numerous chemical plants and rail yards vulnerable to attack by .50-caliber weapons, we have a serious responsibility to stop these inherently deadly weapons from falling into the wrong hands," he said.
To accomplish this, the legislation would revise the definition of a "destructive device" to include weapons of .50 caliber or greater, making it unlawful to possess the firearms. The current definition only applies to weapons of .60 caliber or greater and explosive or incendiary devices.
While the bill includes an exemption for antique firearms, antique handguns and traditional muzzle-loader rifles, Gusciora said the assault-style weapons have no legitimate sporting purpose.
Under the measure, a person illegally possessing a .50-caliber weapon would face a $15,000 fine and up to five years in prison.
Gusciora said his bill gained increased significance after six men were charged in May 2007 with planning an assault on Fort Dix to kill "as many soldiers as possible" using military-grade weapons like mortars, rocket-propelled grenades and AK-47s.
"Fifty-caliber guns are inappropriate and unnecessary for civilian use and sale," he said. "These are military weapons designed specifically for the battlefield. There is no justifiable reason they should be available in the open market."
The New Jersey Libertarian Party disagrees. On the organization's Web site, they called the bill "a slap in the face to collectors, historians and the patriots who used these firearms to win the very freedoms this legislation now seeks to take away."
"The legislation makes the fundamental mistake of banning guns based on the size of the hole in the barrel rather than punishing criminal behavior," the group continued.
Workman of the CCRKBA agreed, telling Cybercast News Service on Friday that the "one-gun-a-month" idea and .50-caliber firearms have become "poster children for the gun control lobby" in New Jersey.
"These bills make great headlines, but they actually accomplish nothing," Workman said, "other than demonizing firearms and making people think that banning guns is a good idea."
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Where is the SCOTUS decision on the D.C. matter before it?
Agreed!
I hope the Louisiana legislature never considers a, “one gun a month” mandate. That could get expensive after a while....
They have another week to mull it over. Pray for a strict scrutiny standard.
NJ doesn’t have many freeway shootings as evidenced by how many a.hole drivers there are in NJ. If they tried their NJ rudeness in Los Angeles they would get shot.
Wednesday or Thursday this week, or next week by extension.
This guy is a typical Socialist idiot.
I can just imagine this...."Hey, Hector dude...get a list from the home-boys...we need to go shopping for some new guns for the "members"
ROFLOL!!!
Are these people THAT stupid!?!?!
In defiance of this flaming liberal idiot...I will go buy a gun this month.
I wonder why the dim Dhims are afraid of .50 cals?
I guess they’re afraid of “the people” voting from the rooftops.
In a word, no.
Their goal is not to disarm the criminals, whose very vocation is to disobey laws and who, after all, can always be counted on to vote for those promising ever-larger shares of someone else's money.
Their goal is to disarm those who actually earn that money, so as to establish, as closely as is possible, an electorate of thieves.
Get it now?
Thanks. I agree with your desire for a very strick interpretation, leaving no back door for governments to strip us in full compliance with the court ruling.
Guscoria is an idiot.
Thank you.
They’re trying to cram all this stuff through before the SC decision, and they’ll do it. Hopefully the decision will be such that we can petition to have the laws declared unconstitutional.
They...( at least the majority..) really believe their baloney............
“...obvious implications of purchasing handguns in bulk”
Ahh.... they were on sale?
This is so much like those idiotic laws that sex offenders can't live within 1000 yards of a school. What, they can't walk or drive to the school? What a bunch of BS.
The followers believe it - in the sense that it is always convenient to believe that you have a right to that which you haven’t earned, and that the government’s role is to provide it. The leaders believe it because that is the source of their power.
How about my wife and daughter birthdays fall in the same month and I was planning to buy them matching firearms as presents.
I guess morons like Assemblywoman Joan M. Quigley think large quantities are more than one.
I guess she has a large quantiles of boobs, two on her chest and one between her her shoulders attached to her spinal cord. Three boobs is a large quantity by her definition
Thank God, I moved out of NJ 30 years ago
Uh, how about:
1) Someone inheriting many guns at one time; or
2) Someone purchasing a collection; or
3) It is none of the State's f'g business.
I am SOOOO glad to be out of NJ when stuff like this hits either the news or the Legislature. It means that I am and will continue to be a free man. Pity on those caught behind the wire in the PRNJ.
In a word, no.
Their goal is not to disarm the criminals, whose very vocation is to disobey laws and who, after all, can always be counted on to vote for those promising ever-larger shares of someone else's money.
Their goal is to disarm those who actually earn that money, so as to establish, as closely as is possible, an electorate of thieves.
Get it now?
Slight correction: the real goal is to establish an electorate of people dependent on the State, whose independence has been wiped away by a fear of the State. IOW, tax slaves or robots. Take a look at the prophetic vision of one of the 20th Century's greatest writers:
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"Did you really think we want those laws observed?" said Dr. Ferris. "We WANT them to be broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against... We're after power and we mean it... There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted -- and you create a nation of law-breakers -- and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with." [Emphasis added by Ancesthntr]
-- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
But I hold...that many are just idealistic idiots.......
“Fifty-caliber guns are inappropriate and unnecessary for civilian use and sale,” he said. “These are military weapons designed specifically for the battlefield. There is no justifiable reason they should be available in the open market.”
I’ve read the Second Amendment hundreds of times over the past 40 years or so. And, I don’t recall seeing anything in there about sporting arms versus ‘military’ arms. Nor do I see anything in there about .50 cal weapons.
Maybe these LibTards just can’t read?
Lenin's "useful idiots."
Exactly.........
Don’t worry, capitalist-inspired ingenuity will outsmart the libtards: http://www.edmarms.com/products/510dtc.htm
They’ll have to pass a new law every time someone invents a new cartridge and gun. Pretty soon they’ll HAVE to show their hand and ban any rifle shooting a common deer cartridge like .30-’06 or .308. At that point, even ordinary citizens of the PRNJ will see through them.
Why does it never arise that when a collection goes up for sale or auction, a single buyer such as a collector or museum might purchase 100 or more guns at once. That is how great research collections are built and how important collections are kept together.
Actually, it's not that bad a law, if you have a big safe and lots of cash.
I think that Ms. Rand would agree: an electorate wholly dependent on the State is by definition, an electorate of thieves.
I drool at the thought !
That’s my hope as well. Thanks for the mention.
How about, "Because I wanna."
These laws have no effect on crime.
Piss off a statie: Apply for your Curio&Relics license/permit $30(available from the BATF site), order a few CZ-52s(a .30 cal. pistol of current interest to me) and have them shipped to your door. Repeat with firearm of choice and encourage others to do so(even if it means walking them through the paperwork, etc.)
Sidenote- The heavy metal band Corrosion of Conformity did a song called “Vote with a Bullet”. I don't remember *any* hoopla about that song/band. Just have to wonder who would be showing up at our doors for the first one if we were to say/type that.
Clearly, if you have that sort of money than the state needs to be taking a closer look at you /sarcasm
The NJ State Police firearms enforcement group has a horrendous reputation. The folks I have talked to in the firearms business in NJ were convinced that most BATF agents were just doing their jobs, but that the NJ State Police almost to a man were on a crusade.
BTW, for those not familiar with NJ weapons laws, there are so many goofy laws already that it is difficult not to commit multiple felonies. e.g. possession of a slingshot or a stiletto [an undefined term]; transporting a firearm other than by the most direct path to / from a range, a place where you are hunting, between home and business or the most direct path out of the state if you are moving out of state.
I would love to join a gun of the month club.
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