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Posted on 06/20/2008 10:17:03 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
Not only was the driver of a Ford Bronco that fatally struck a 12-year-old girl unlicensed, but San Jose police say she is also an illegal immigrant, renewing the debate over whether undocumented people should be allowed to apply for driver's licenses.
The revelation that Adriana Fierro De Marin, 31, is in the country illegally struck yet another chord with the family of Breanna Slaughter-Eck, still reeling from the loss of the Hoover Middle School sixth-grader.
"I'm worried that she just might flee now and walk away from all this," said Joe Castro, the man who raised Breanna for the last four years. For her part, Breanna's mother simply wants justice.
Breanna was biking home from Hoover on June 12, her last day of school, when a Ford Bronco making a left turn slammed into her. The crash is still under investigation and no charges have been filed.
But Breanna's death and the disclosure by authorities that Fierro De Marin is an undocumented immigrant and unlicensed driver highlights one of the more controversial topics lingering in the state Capitol.
There have been nine attempts since 1999 to allow undocumented immigrants to apply for driver's licenses. Each of the efforts has failed, opposed by Republicans who say it's inappropriate to provide state services and benefits to people who are in the country illegally.
State Sen. Gil Cedillo, D-Los Angeles, says safety is more important.
"We have, every day, 2 1/2 million people taking the roads who, if given the opportunity, would apply for driver's licenses," said Cedillo, whose latest proposal passed the Senate and is back before the Assembly this summer. "We're endangering the lives of pedestrians and motorists in California every single day."
(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...
Once again, logic is turned on it’s ear in a response to a tragic result of illegal immigration.
So there’s something in the CA Driver’s License application process that would have explained to Ms. De Marin that when operating a motor vehicle, you’re not supposed to drive over people on bicycles, a fact that she was otherwise apparently ignorant of?
Cedillo’s argument is that having a state issued license is going to make unlicensed drivers better by virtue of having the license?
What an idiot. No matter how much bureaucracy one could make intervene, that little girl would still be dead.
This woman is in the country illegally, killed someone, the accident happened more than a week ago and no charges have been filed?
The mercury, and apparently, a lot if not all, of the local media is aghast at the “revelation”, at least the reporters, that this is an illegal.. ha ha ha.. half this valley is probably illegal.
12 year old not wearing helmet, last day of school, usually walked to school.
31 yo illegal going to pick her kid up T’bones the girl at an intersection. no charges yet, worse she could have got was a misdemeanor, now , who knows.. crazy, just crazy what legal citizens and their families have to endure in the US and how disconnected the DC crowd is from the price paid at the local level every day for their inaction and indifference.
Well, having a valid driver's license means you had to pass some kind of driving test, right? Therefore, someone WITH a license is hypothetically more skilled behind the wheel than someone who hasn't taken any driving tests (at least in the US), like this lady.
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He's saying that the number of illegals driving in this country each day is 2.5 million?
Who’s more at fault here: the SUV or the illegal driver? /s
Illegal aliens getting licenses under fake identities (metricula consular) and then escaping justice.
This will make us safer, how?
scary, huh?
Somehow, I can't envision a scenario where I hit so much as a mailbox without a license and don't get charged. But then again, I'm a white, heterosexual male so I needn't even get out of bed in the morning to be guilty of something.
What makes “one bill gil” think that this woman would apply for a CA D.L.? She apparently doesn’t have a Mexican driver’s license.
Probably 2.5 million just in California.
I wouldn’t doubt that, but there’s that many driving? That’s what caught my attention.
If she had a license, she probably would have been a better driver - having had an instructor to teach her about reading signs, the importance of yieling to pedestrians and what not - and the accident wouldn’t have happened. That was my point.
Apparently, the lack of a license did not stop this person from operating a motor vehicle, with fatal results.
Mere posession of a card that says you know how to drive is no guarantee that, if you even bother to get the card, you will drive in any manner approaching a standard which could be generally accepted as "safe and responsible".
It hasn't worked for the millions of drivers who routinely break traffic laws, get in accidents and either kill or maim others or are killed and maimed themselves, even though many of them are Citizens of the United States.
The person in question had already demonstrated their disdain for authority and law in this country, simply by being here illegally.
What hope does this hold out to you that they might suddenly, despite their felonious behaviour to date, have a change of heart on this one topic and forego the misdemeanor charge of driving without a license?
Their contempt for the law reaches deeper than just crossing some imaginary line.
Quit enabling their behaviour and send them home, wherever it is.
And surely this woman wouldn't have been driving if she'd failed the driving test.
Owl_Eagle
If what I just wrote made you sad or angry,
it was probably just a joke.
“If she had a license, she probably would have been a better driver....the accident wouldn’t have happened. That was my point.”
Following your point, and State Senator Cedillo’s statement, then blame for Breeanna’s death can be laid upon those of us who oppose “comprehensive immigration reform.”
In other words, if we don’t straighten up and accept amnesty, more Americans will die and it will be our own fault.
Right. But this woman has proved that she will drive WITHOUT a license. So if she took the test and failed, she would drive anyway. So the test would not weed her out.
In exactly the same way that handing out those 20 to 30 million "Z Visas" to illegals of unknown and unknowable origin, background, lineage, criminality, foreign affiliations, etc., would "reform" our immigration system.
This reminds me much of the gun control debate. Get rid of guns so we’ll be safe. In the same vein license illegals so we’ll be safe. How? W/ or w/o a license she’s still a poor driver. How would the licensing process substantially alter that? Perhaps (a big ‘if’ at that) it could have kept her from being licensed BUT so what. She was going to drive anyway license or not. Now we’re back to the same spot.
So if she had a driver’s license it would be okay to kill?
Makes a big difference./s
If we just secure the border and deport them, we won’t have to worry about them driving.
We're all being told to use less gas, drive less, use public transportation, buy tiny cars with tiny engines....Yet our government stands by and allows millions enter illegally, all of them burning *our* gasoline....In addition, that figure is incorrect, it closer to 20 million illegals driving daily.
What a joke.
So if she had a driver’s license it would be okay to kill?
No requirement to read and UNDERSTAND englist stinking illegals.
Wow. It’s amazing how we’re all thinking one thing (that the woman shouldn’t have been here in the FIRST PLACE), yet the authors of this article and the dems turn it into a licensing issue.
And as you say, it’s not as if her being licensed would have kept her from driving like an idiot and into the poor girl.
Also, WHY HAVE NO CHARGES BEEN BROUGHT FORTH? What is there to investigate?
Just unbelievable.
One of the dumbest statements I have ever seen in print, not the dumbest but in the running for the top 10. So, if this illegal was licensed she would be a better driver? She wouldn't have killed this 12 yo girl? I will tell you a better one, if she wasn't in this country illegally she wouldn't have killed a 12 yo American girl. What asshats the media are.
Your point is well taken: with driver’s ed, she probably would have been a better driver.
The point remains though—why is our country educating, tending to the medical needs/general welfare of, and employing foreign nationals?
I think your point is mooted with a simple solution: we deport illegal “immigrants” who are uneducated, ill and indigent, pursuant to our law, and Mexico can complain to the World Court.
Then we can consider reforming our immigration laws, but the horse first, then the cart.
Not too up on the CA rules but my guess is that she would have not had an instructor (age of majority rights), would have walked into the DMV, claimed illiteracy of English, had the tests read to her, claimed she wasn’t clear on the questions so the reader would tell her which answers were right, passed the eye test and got her license.
Happens every day in Chicago area.
Of course she'd still be driving, but even with a failing grade, she likely would have grasped some basics. I failed some tests in college but after failing went back and figured out what I did wrong.
..Therefore, someone WITH a license is hypothetially more skilled....
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Since we are being hypothetical what or who is to say she wouldn’t have been driving if she had FAILED her test.
Bottom line is she is here illegally and the way our warped set of standards is heading, she will go free as no one has any jurisdiction....
This is just pure madness, I had always thought it was unreasonable and not feasible to EJECT all illegals, but when ‘they’ are caught doing felonies etc they are not held accountable, maybe they should be hunted down and tossed.
At least if that program is started, many will probably leave on their own??????
If she wasn’t here, which she shouldn’t have been, this 12 yo would still be alive. All the crimes that illegals commit would not be committed if they were not here, at least they wouldn’t be committed in the USA. Simply passing a test for driving does not make a responsible driver. This woman was willing to break the law to be here and to work here, that means she couldn’t care less about laws, including traffic laws.
Neah. He says 2.5 million illegals are driving unlicensed in the People’s Demokratik Republik of Kalifornia.
I agree with you 100% - I’d rather her and all illegals be deported immediately. Unfortunately, that’s not - and probably never will be - the case.
San Jose is a “sanctuary city”.....
Illegal Aliens are given all the benefits of citizenship with NONE of the obligations....
Free Education K-12 and beyond.
Free Medical of ALL types.
Free Housing where needed.
Free from being reported as illegal aliens.
So - when illegal aliens rob, rape, pillage, murder your children, rape your children, prevent you from getting medical care, drunkenly hit your car on the highway, require you to press 1 for English, drive the value of your home down due to “group housing” in a single family residence, trash your neighborhood with graffiti, their children showing up at your children’s school pregnant and demanding free child care during the school day, refuse to stand in class during the Pledge of Allegiance, etc, etc.... —— simply think of it as YOUR personal contribution to the worship of a multicultural society..
Aren’t you proud?
Doesn’t that make you feel all warm and tingly inside?
Aren’t you thrilled to have played your role in sacrificing your children’s birthright in a race to become another Turd World nation?
Then WAKE THE HELL UP!
Good points.
The “license-for-illegals” crowd, like Cedillo, are actually saying that if she was licensed it would be okay that the youngster died.
And, i too wonder why no charges are brought. Even if the youngster was completely in the wrong and even caused the accident, the driver shoould not have been there!
Manslughter, negligent homocide. Should have been arrested at the scene!
You’re just bitter. Probably clinging to guns and religion too.
Obama sez you just don’t understand (me neither, I’m just like you).
Enlighten us, oh Obamessiah! /s
Don't try to weasel your way out of your statements about illegals, you are obviously Pro-illegal and trying to make excuses or them. Licensing them is not the answer, enforcing existing law is.
not weaseling in or out of anything. I’m just saying that she’s here and if she had a license and passed some sort of driver’s test, this accident may not have occurred. But yes, she should not even be here in the first place.
Soooooooooooooooo...
If the illegal alien had a DL...
A 12 yo American girl, would not be dead ???
Gee that makes a whole lot of sense...
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Soooooooooooo if the wet had a liscense would the little girl be alive?
I have had it with the illegals and their apologists. We need a new revolution.
My prayers to the family of the little girl.
The only one "renewing" the debate is the dumba$$ Senator who is hoping to get illegals drivers' license so that they can engage in massive voter fraud in red counties. Time to stick this issue on the ballot so that we can shut this guy up once and for all.
The point is, idiot, she shouldn’t be here. She should be killing 12 yo in her own country. Besides, a drivers license was never intended to make better drivers, it was to get revenue, the first drivers license were issued without test. If drivers license helped prevent traffic accidents then why in the hell do we still have idiots driving around killing people with their stupidity. How do you know this women doesn’t already know all the rules of the road and simply chose to ignore them? Bottom line, once again,she shouldn’t be here, if she was not here she couldn’t have killed this kid. And yes, once again, to your stupid statement we can’t deport them all, we can, we can get rid of most of them but people like you want to forgive them and let them stay here.
Please calm down. I’m not using that tone with you. It’s uncalled for.
Polly....sighing deeply as she wonders....
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