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Greenland Ice Core Analysis Shows Drastic Climate Change Near End Of Last Ice Age
Physorg ^ | 6-19-2008 | University of Colorado

Posted on 06/19/2008 3:33:44 PM PDT by blam

Greenland ice core analysis shows drastic climate change near end of last ice age

Caption: The North Greenland Ice Core Project camp. Credit: NGRIP

Temperatures spiked 22 degrees F in just 50 years, researchers say Information gleaned from a Greenland ice core by an international science team shows that two huge Northern Hemisphere temperature spikes prior to the close of the last ice age some 11,500 years ago were tied to fundamental shifts in atmospheric circulation.

The ice core showed the Northern Hemisphere briefly emerged from the last ice age some 14,700 years ago with a 22-degree-Fahrenheit spike in just 50 years, then plunged back into icy conditions before abruptly warming again about 11,700 years ago. Startlingly, the Greenland ice core evidence showed that a massive "reorganization" of atmospheric circulation in the Northern Hemisphere coincided with each temperature spurt, with each reorganization taking just one or two years, said the study authors.

The new findings are expected to help scientists improve existing computer models for predicting future climate change as increasing anthropogenic greenhouse gases in the atmosphere drive up Earth's temperatures globally.

The team used changes in dust levels and stable water isotopes in the annual ice layers of the two-mile-long Greenland ice core, which was hauled from the massive ice sheet between 1998 to 2004, to chart past temperature and precipitation swings. Their paper was published in the June 19 issue of Science Express, the online version of Science.

The ice cores -- analyzed with powerful microscopes -- were drilled as part of the North Greenland Ice Core Project led by project leader Dorthe Dahl-Jensen of the Centre for Ice and Climate at the Neils Bohr Institute of the University of Copenhagen. The study included 17 co-investigators from Europe, one from Japan and two from the United States -- Jim White and Trevor Popp from the University of Colorado at Boulder.

"We have analyzed the transition from the last glacial period until our present warm interglacial period, and the climate shifts are happening suddenly, as if someone had pushed a button," said Dahl-Jenson.

According to the researchers, the first abrupt warming period beginning at 14,700 years ago lasted until about 12,900 years ago, when deep-freeze conditions returned for about 1,200 years before the onset of the second sharp warming event. The two events indicate a speed in the natural climate change process never before seen in ice cores, said White, director of CU-Boulder's Institute for Arctic and Alpine Research.

"We are beginning to tease apart the sequence of abrupt climate change," said White, whose work was funded by the National Science Foundation's Office of Polar Programs. "Since such rapid climate change would challenge even the most modern societies to successfully adapt, knowing how these massive events start and evolve is one of the most pressing climate questions we need to answer."

Both dramatic warming events were preceded by decreasing Greenland dust deposition, indicating higher tropical temperatures and significantly more rain falling on the deserts of Asia at the time, said White. The team believes the ancient tropical warming caused large, rapid atmospheric changes at the equator, the intensification of the Pacific monsoon, sea-ice loss in the north Atlantic Ocean and more atmospheric heat and moisture over Greenland and much of the rest of the Northern Hemisphere.

"Here we propose a series of events beginning in the lower latitudes and leading to changes in the ocean and atmosphere that reveal for the first time the anatomy of abrupt climate change," the authors wrote. White likened the abrupt shift in the Northern Hemisphere circulation pattern to shifts in the North American jet stream as it steers storms around the continent.

"We know such events are in Earth's future, but we don't know when," said White. "One question is whether we can see the symptoms before big problems occur. Until we answer these questions, we are speeding blindly down a narrow road, hoping there are no curves ahead."

Each yearly record of ice can reveal past temperatures and precipitation levels, the content of ancient atmospheres and even evidence for the timing and magnitude of distant storms, fires and volcanic eruptions, said White. The cores from the site -- located roughly in the middle of Greenland at an elevation of about 9,850 feet -- are four-inch-diameter cylinders brought to the surface in 11.5-foot lengths, said White.

Source: University of Colorado at Boulder


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1 posted on 06/19/2008 3:33:45 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

The SUVs were all the rage for those 50 years, and then, as they were outlawed to prevent global warming, the planet returned to its natural, pristine climate.


2 posted on 06/19/2008 3:37:46 PM PDT by farlander (Try not to wear milk bone underwear - it's a dog eat dog financial world)
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To: SunkenCiv
Comet Theory Collides With Clovis Research, May Explain Disappearance of Ancient People

Ice Age Ends Smashingly: Did A Comet Blow Up Over Eastern Canada? (Carolina Bays)

3 posted on 06/19/2008 3:37:50 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Greenland Ice Core Analysis Shows Drastic Climate Change Near End Of Last Ice Age

Kinda goes without saying, doesn't it? I mean, I'd be surprised if the data said the ice age simply stopped, went away when no one was looking or something.

4 posted on 06/19/2008 3:39:41 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (If it is going to take 10 years, shouldn't we get started? Drill here, drill now, pay less.)
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To: blam

Relying on one small area to cover the condition of the whole at that period...is just a big guess.


5 posted on 06/19/2008 3:43:11 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
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To: blam
Bush's Fault©
6 posted on 06/19/2008 3:44:27 PM PDT by Old Sarge (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: blam

Can we reverse all our wind turbines into fans and change atmospheric circulation? Ooooo! Ooooo! Or we could have all our jet airliners fly against the Jet Streams and slow them down, if we have the fuel.


7 posted on 06/19/2008 3:45:24 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: blam

This story is not true. We have been told now by the doom and gloomers that mankind causes climate change. They want us to believe there is some magical perfect “climate” that would exist if not for mankind. Without mankind, the world must have been perfection and climatically precise. Whatever could these authors be thinking?


8 posted on 06/19/2008 3:51:58 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: Old Sarge
Bush's Fault©

The freezing or the warming?

9 posted on 06/19/2008 3:52:15 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: glorgau
Bush's Fault©
The freezing or the warming?

Yes.

10 posted on 06/19/2008 3:58:53 PM PDT by Old Sarge (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: glorgau
Bush's Fault©

The freezing or the warming?

Both, of course!

11 posted on 06/19/2008 3:58:56 PM PDT by FrogMom
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To: blam

How did Bush cause this?


12 posted on 06/19/2008 4:00:42 PM PDT by TruthWillWin
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To: FrogMom

Just like it will no doubt be his fault that FEMA told all of the flood ravaged places that it was safe to live there because the levees would hold, in 1999.


13 posted on 06/19/2008 4:01:10 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: blam

Ya think?

duh

mrs


14 posted on 06/19/2008 4:02:08 PM PDT by proudmilitarymrs (It's not immigration, it's an invasion!)
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To: blam
Until we answer these questions, we are speeding blindly down a narrow road, hoping there are no curves ahead.

LOL!! Yeah, right. This guy gets wet dreams over the thought that he's going to save mankind from flying off a cliff.

15 posted on 06/19/2008 4:03:27 PM PDT by Fox_Mulder77
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To: blam
"The new findings are expected to help scientists improve existing computer models (Which are crap and have never been validated) for predicting future climate change as increasing anthropogenic greenhouse gases in the atmosphere drive up Earth's temperatures globally (except since 1998 and apparently for the next 10 to 15 years as global warming "takes a break")."
16 posted on 06/19/2008 4:05:59 PM PDT by JaguarXKE
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To: blam
Yeah, nice read until you get to this lie!

The new findings are expected to help scientists improve existing computer models for predicting future climate change as increasing anthropogenic greenhouse gases in the atmosphere drive up Earth's temperatures globally.

If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.

17 posted on 06/19/2008 4:06:57 PM PDT by chaos_5 (Proud to be one of the 10% not rallying around McCain)
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To: blam
Temperatures spiked 22 degrees F in just 50 years

That sounds dramatic except that the temperature in most places spikes 22 degrees every day, and much more between summer and winter, and not much dies off from it.

18 posted on 06/19/2008 4:10:47 PM PDT by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: blam

Bush’s fault.


19 posted on 06/19/2008 4:11:34 PM PDT by Hoodat (Obama's only connection to the descendants of American Slaves is that his muslim ancestors sold them)
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To: blam

The ice age ended when the temperatures rose? Gosh, these guys are brilliant.


20 posted on 06/19/2008 4:12:14 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Planting trees to offset carbon emissions is like drinking water to offset rising ocean levels)
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To: Old Sarge

Uh oh, I didn’t see the copyright. How much do I owe you?


21 posted on 06/19/2008 4:12:31 PM PDT by Hoodat (Obama's only connection to the descendants of American Slaves is that his muslim ancestors sold them)
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To: blam
a 22-degree-Fahrenheit spike in just 50 years,

No doubt Gore-Magnon man was to blame here...after all, Gore-Magnon's tried to alter their living conditions, but still increased their fire output by 10% just before this happened....

History repeats itself...just very, very slowly in this case...

22 posted on 06/19/2008 4:12:42 PM PDT by NorCoGOP (I'd stick a fork in Hillary, but, that'd be an insult to forks everywhere.)
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To: Old Sarge
Since Bush wasn't around, maybe we can blame this guy:
Carbon belch!   Shame!
23 posted on 06/19/2008 4:16:25 PM PDT by Vigilanteman ((Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud))
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To: farlander
Must've been all those steel mills around Pittsburgh...
24 posted on 06/19/2008 4:18:55 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Vigilanteman

My conclusion, exactly.


25 posted on 06/19/2008 4:27:28 PM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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To: blam
The team used changes in dust levels and stable water isotopes in the annual ice layers...to chart past temperature and precipitation swings.

I use old Bud Lite bottle caps and a rubber band to chart climate change.

26 posted on 06/19/2008 4:32:22 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The democRATS are near the tipping point.)
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To: blam

Science be damned. Whatever the data, it will be interpreted to prove that mankind is ruining the earth and must be brought to heel. Strict controls must be brought to bear. Perhaps birth control chemicals in the water and early euthanasia for folks over sixty who get sick. Mother earth must be protected at all costs from the viral infection of mankind.


27 posted on 06/19/2008 4:37:34 PM PDT by gost2
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To: blam

Partial sun cross there.

Something else that might cause a rapid climate change in Greenland 10,000 years ago might be a pole shift. We’re overdue now for another.


28 posted on 06/19/2008 4:41:30 PM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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Beam me to Planet Gore !

29 posted on 06/19/2008 4:42:50 PM PDT by steelyourfaith
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To: NorCoGOP

Gore-Magnon man, good one.

The Younger dryas period about 9 to 10 thousand years ago, has been speculated to have been cause when some of the ice dams broke and cold water rushed to the North Atlantic creating the St. Lawrence. All of this cold water prevented the Gulf Stream from completing its warm course to Europe. It took a thousand years to resolve the situation.

Therefore the solution to global warming is to build a sea wall from North Carolina to divert the Gulf Stream. New York would have polar bears and Europe could ski year round.


30 posted on 06/19/2008 4:44:25 PM PDT by depressed in 06 (Bolshecrat, where patriotism is replacing the stars in the flag with hammers and sickles.)
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To: blam

Keep drilling deeper, until we hear “Largest oil and mineral reserves in history found underneath Greenland’s ice cap.”


31 posted on 06/19/2008 4:55:36 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: blam

Did somebody repossess Fred Flintstone’s dinosaur car?


32 posted on 06/19/2008 4:59:40 PM PDT by Argus (Obama: All turban and no goats.)
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To: blam

So now we know how Algore uses so much power——to keep the Greenland ice cores frozen. Wouldn’t these guy’s conclusions require knowing that Greenland froze every year for a couple bazillion years? What if it warmed up for, oh, say, a couple thousand years every now and then and a couple feet of “evidence” slid into the ocean? I’m a little suspicious these ice-hole-drillers are “proving” more than they have evidence for?


33 posted on 06/19/2008 5:00:59 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: proudmilitarymrs

beat me to it LOL. My thoughts exactly.


34 posted on 06/19/2008 5:04:17 PM PDT by momincombatboots (Not a journey for the feeble. (Added to the Non- sheeple list of those Not voting for Mccain))
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To: Reeses
A 22 degree change in overall temperatures would be pretty dramatic. Two things that these frikken idiots, or at least the newspaper writer, don't seem to understand.

1) 14,000 years ago, or even 11,000 years ago - man was not contributing to global warming gases (if you consider the 0.28% that we DO contribute as a real factor - I don't).

2) We are in a WARM period RIGHT NOW. A relatively long warm period (thank goodness for civilization). We ARE coming to a turn in the road if the past cycles hold true. And based on the past information, it would be a turn downwards (in temperature). We're going to be caught with our pants down trying to stop global warming, when instead we should be preparing for all types of climate change. (Hot, cold, wet, dry, ....) Of course the best way to rapidly adapt to that is the old fashioned entrepreneurial way - not some plodding government program.

35 posted on 06/19/2008 5:24:25 PM PDT by 21twelve (Don't wish for peace. Pray for Victory.)
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To: gost2
Science be damned. Whatever the data, it will be interpreted to prove that mankind is ruining the earth and must be brought to heel.

Just so. The politicization of science in America is the greatest tragedy I've observed in my lifetime.

36 posted on 06/19/2008 5:26:02 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: blam
Must have been all that manufacturing and petroleum use at the end of the last ice age. I guess it could be radiation from their nuclear plants also.
37 posted on 06/19/2008 5:38:04 PM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: RightWhale

Hope it takes its time, a rapid pole shift would be ...bad. There is evidence to support pole shift concept.


38 posted on 06/19/2008 5:46:02 PM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“I use old Bud Lite bottle caps and a rubber band to chart climate change”

YOU are officially my new “sarcasm hero”, just for that statement alone.

mrs


39 posted on 06/19/2008 6:18:22 PM PDT by proudmilitarymrs (It's not immigration, it's an invasion!)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

“This story is not true. We have been told now by the doom and gloomers that mankind causes climate change. They want us to believe there is some magical perfect “climate” that would exist if not for mankind. Without mankind, the world must have been perfection and climatically precise. Whatever could these authors be thinking?”

Hang on a minute. Just because the climate changed in the past without humans being the cause does not mean humans can not cause climate change now or in the future.


40 posted on 06/19/2008 10:16:32 PM PDT by Tymesup
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To: RightWhale
Something else that might cause a rapid climate change in Greenland 10,000 years ago might be a pole shift. We’re overdue now for another.

I believe they can date pole shifts if there were any connection.

41 posted on 06/20/2008 3:52:54 AM PDT by bkepley
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To: Tymesup

Of course you are right. But the GW alarmists contention that mankind is causing today’s “change” - that’s a hard sell. They cannot quantify the natural change absolutely to remove it from the supposed contribution of humanity. Without such controls, their alarmism is just more noise.


42 posted on 06/20/2008 11:04:39 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes: Flood, Fire, and Famine in the History of Civilization The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes:
Flood, Fire, and Famine
in the History of Civilization

by Richard Firestone,
Allen West, and
Simon Warwick-Smith


43 posted on 06/20/2008 4:47:50 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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44 posted on 06/20/2008 4:48:21 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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45 posted on 06/20/2008 4:48:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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Where’s Al Gore when you need him?
I bet he’s responsible for it all. ALL the global warming since time began. It’s all HIS fault! He has ozone for a brain.


46 posted on 06/20/2008 4:50:16 PM PDT by Monkey Face ("Science has proof without any certainty. Creationists have certainty without any proof.")
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To: NonValueAdded

i guess your not a scientist. too obvious


47 posted on 06/20/2008 5:02:04 PM PDT by beebuster2000
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To: blam
The ABs had great civilizations during that time and their SUVs and saucers were responsible for the climate change in such a fast manner. There can be NO climate change without intelligent civilization and the abrupt climate change would cause their destruction. Since NO ice has been found that can be placed older than 800,000 years there is something wrong with all these computer models.

Where are the ABs to point us in the right direction?

48 posted on 06/20/2008 5:05:16 PM PDT by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the Royal 100 Club)
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topics from 2007:

Global warming debate ‘irrational’: scientists [GW caused by sun]
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Sunspots reaching 1,000-year high
BBC News | Tuesday, 6 July, 2004 | Dr David Whitehouse
Posted on 04/10/2007 7:30:56 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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Solar peak expected in 2011-2012
CNN | April 26, 2007 | AP - CNN
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Ocean currents to blame for [global]warming: expert
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Climate change hits Mars
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49 posted on 06/20/2008 7:20:26 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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Whoops, forget to ping ya. :’(


50 posted on 06/20/2008 7:21:46 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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