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War crimes committed by U.S., ex-general says
SacBee ^ | June 19, 2008 | Warren P. Strobel

Posted on 06/19/2008 11:07:18 AM PDT by radar101

WASHINGTON – The Army general who led the investigation into prisoner abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison accused the Bush administration Wednesday of committing war crimes and called for those responsible to be held to account.

The remarks by Maj. Gen. Antonio Taguba, who's now retired, came in a new report that found that U.S. personnel tortured and abused detainees in Iraq, Afghanistan and Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, using beatings, electrical shocks, sexual humiliation and other cruel practices.

"After years of disclosures by government investigations, media accounts and reports from human rights organizations, there is no longer any doubt as to whether the current administration has committed war crimes," Taguba wrote. "The only question that remains to be answered is whether those who ordered the use of torture will be held to account."

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: army; bds; warcrimes

1 posted on 06/19/2008 11:07:21 AM PDT by radar101
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To: radar101

How the hell did this guy get to be a Major General?

Check out his picture. He looks gay to me.

The Army has gone to hell.


2 posted on 06/19/2008 11:10:45 AM PDT by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islam. TWP VRWC)
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To: radar101
Has any Iraqi who was held at Abu Ghraib ever come forward and demonstrated that he had anything more than his feelings hurt while Americans were in charge?

I didn't think so.

3 posted on 06/19/2008 11:11:21 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: radar101

Physicians for Human Rights.. a lefty group not mentioned until the 8th paragraph...


4 posted on 06/19/2008 11:11:30 AM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: radar101

Wonder if Taguba is looking for a position in the Obama cabinet?


5 posted on 06/19/2008 11:11:35 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Rush on McCain: "We're so screwed.")
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To: radar101

“sexual humiliation”

good thing they did not use farce, hyperbole and simile.


6 posted on 06/19/2008 11:12:32 AM PDT by spanalot
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To: radar101

7 posted on 06/19/2008 11:18:46 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Given such dismal choices, I guess I'll vote for the old guy.)
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To: garyhope

8 posted on 06/19/2008 11:19:49 AM PDT by SolidWood (Refusal to vote for McCain is active support of Obama. Period.)
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To: radar101

Ah, some news from Iraq. I thought the Drive By Media had forgotten about it.


9 posted on 06/19/2008 11:20:00 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Given such dismal choices, I guess I'll vote for the old guy.)
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To: radar101

In 2004 Taguba was assigned to report on prisoner abuse in the Abu Ghraib military prison in Iraq. In May of that year he published an extremely critical report that was leaked to the public.[9]

Later that May Major General Taguba was reassigned to the Pentagon to serve as deputy assistant secretary of defense for readiness, training and mobilization in the Office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Reserve Affairs.[8]

In January of 2006, Taguba was instructed by General Richard A. Cody, the Army’s Vice-Chief of Staff, to retire by January of 2007. No explanation was given.[9] Taguba’s retirement, effective January 1, 2007 ended a 34 year career of military service.[6]


10 posted on 06/19/2008 11:21:30 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Given such dismal choices, I guess I'll vote for the old guy.)
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To: radar101

Oh I hope its true.
It would be fantastic if we really were torturing these thugs.


11 posted on 06/19/2008 11:23:09 AM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: radar101


12 posted on 06/19/2008 11:23:16 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: garyhope

13 posted on 06/19/2008 11:24:29 AM PDT by radar101
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To: Jeff Chandler

our grapes.

I wonder how Bush likes his new tone in Washington now?


14 posted on 06/19/2008 11:24:45 AM PDT by stockpirate (McCain used the d word, drill for oil. If we hammer this issue we can win and take the Congress)
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To: radar101

He should be stripped of any military honors and demoted and have his pension taken away....then tries for treason.


15 posted on 06/19/2008 11:25:25 AM PDT by Wavrnr10
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To: radar101

He should be stripped of any military honors and demoted and have his pension taken away....then put on trial for treason.......sorry


16 posted on 06/19/2008 11:25:44 AM PDT by Wavrnr10
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To: garyhope
How the hell did this guy get to be a Major General?

AFFIRMATIVE ACTION and PC.

17 posted on 06/19/2008 11:26:12 AM PDT by radar101
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To: garyhope

I prefer to look at it as if ‘some members or former members’ of the military have gone to hell.

This guy isn’t fit to kiss the boots of 99.99999% of our members of the military.

This statement of his is pathetic. It plays right into the goals of the worst sorts around the world.

What a disgrace...


18 posted on 06/19/2008 11:26:12 AM PDT by DoughtyOne ( I say no to the Hillary Clinton wing of the Republican party. Not now or ever, John McCain...)
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To: spanalot
good thing they did not use farce, hyperbole and simile.

If you had ever seen the total devastation of whole villages caused by the indiscriminate use of hyperbole and simile, you wouldn't have such a cavalier attitude about these terrible weapons. And don't even get me started on the deadly use of farce by our soldiers.

19 posted on 06/19/2008 11:26:17 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: radar101
..media accounts and reports from human rights organizations

There goes your credibility General. The "media" reports are usually uncritical replays of the accusations made by the human rights groups. Those accusations, in turn, are made by prisoners who have been trained to do just that. Now, what "government investigations" have found torture, General? You investigated Abu Grahib and found many disgusting things that can't credibly be lumped into the "torture" category without making it meaningless. So what other reports? Name one.

20 posted on 06/19/2008 11:26:42 AM PDT by Dilbert56 (Harry Reid, D-Nev.: "We're going to pick up Senate seats as a result of this war.")
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To: radar101

How do “medical experts” test someone for drinking urine years after the fact?


21 posted on 06/19/2008 11:27:27 AM PDT by Soliton (Investigate, educate, then opinionate.)
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To: Abathar

He kind of looks like Mr. Sulu


22 posted on 06/19/2008 11:27:40 AM PDT by Londo Molari
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To: Londo Molari
He kind of looks like Mr. Sulu

I understand he is getting married this week in California. Possible connection?

23 posted on 06/19/2008 11:35:49 AM PDT by usurper (Spelling or grammatical errors in this post can be attributed to the LA City School System)
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To: Londo Molari

Trolling for Obama’s VP


24 posted on 06/19/2008 11:35:53 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: radar101

Dear Mr. Strobel

This smells like yellow journalism. Another RETIED General attacks the Bush administration after he retired. If this were true and he had any honor he would have brought this up before he retired, and when he was involved with the investigation.
Where is his proof? Do you believe any traitor that comes up with allegations?

Also, how come the press always labels Conservative groups or Republican groups, but NEVER labels Liberal or Marxist groups?
Physicians for Human Rights are a bunch of Liberals that look for any chance to attack America. YOU NEVER hear them attack OUR enemies.
Saddam tortured by cutting off hands, breaking bones, and throwing tied prisoners off of walls. But the Physicians for Human Rights never said a word.

All America ask for is consistency and truth. But it appears that you have an agenda of putting a microscope on America and pandering to those that would kill us.

I find your article disgusting of it propaganda and you hate America agenda.
Exton


25 posted on 06/19/2008 11:40:43 AM PDT by Exton1
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To: radar101
“The doctors and experts determined that the men had been subject to cruelties that ranged from isolation, sleep deprivation and hooding to electric shocks, beating and, in one case, being forced to drink urine.”

While the above actions are excessive by our western standards, they are very mild in comparison to what is done by terrorists like Al Queda in Iraq (AQIZ).

I have seen plenty of evidence of acts such as gouging out eyes, cutting out tongues, mutilating genitals, cutting off fingers, using electric drills to punch holes through knees, done by AQIZ and their followers. They had no problem condemning any Iraqi citizen and cutting off their heads in front of their families and neighbors. They would entertain themselves by raping mothers, wives, and daughters in front of their victims to increase the level of torture and humiliation before they killed them...

I do not advocate the use of torture but in perspective the “cruelties” described are mild. The moral and ethical issue is where to draw the line. Interestingly enough in John McCain we probably have one of the few people in this country with the experience to establish that line in an objective way.

26 posted on 06/19/2008 11:46:57 AM PDT by RedEyeJack
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To: Londo Molari

That was the first thing I thought of too.


27 posted on 06/19/2008 11:47:13 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: garyhope

The same way Janice Karpinski got her star.


28 posted on 06/19/2008 11:53:10 AM PDT by DFG
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To: Londo Molari

He looks Phillipino to me.


29 posted on 06/19/2008 12:01:19 PM PDT by chopperman
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To: Abathar
Separated at birth? The ex general and George Takei (Lt. Sulu of Star Fleet)?
30 posted on 06/19/2008 12:10:53 PM PDT by RicocheT
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To: garyhope

“He looks gay to me.”
“Don’t ask. Don’t te;;.”
But, yeah, he looks like a fish stick!


31 posted on 06/19/2008 12:11:21 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Maceman; spanalot

Farce, hyperbole, and simile are perfectly legitimate means of war, as long as you don’t mix metaphors.


32 posted on 06/19/2008 12:24:21 PM PDT by kenavi ("My mudder thanks you, my fodder thanks you, and Obama thanks you!")
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To: radar101

Taguba: No direct order given for abuse

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/05/11/politics.abuse.main/index.html

Senate hearing in 2004


33 posted on 06/19/2008 12:30:24 PM PDT by BARLF
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To: radar101

bump


34 posted on 06/19/2008 12:45:13 PM PDT by Skooz (Any nation that would elect Hillary Clinton as its president has forfeited its right to exist.)
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To: radar101

What an embarassment to the Malay race!

Gen. Taguba has an ax to grind. He was passed over for promotion (someone I know from Hawaii told me about a conversation he had with a neighbor of his) and he had been on a warpath against Sec. Rumsfeld eversince.

To us American conservatives of Filipino origin, Gen. Taguba is a typical liberal loud-mouth.


35 posted on 06/19/2008 1:26:10 PM PDT by Ben Reyes
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To: Ben Reyes
General Taguba went out of his way in 2001 to call attention to what he described as the injustice the Army had accorded his father after a two-decade career that began in the Battle of Bataan in 1942, where he fought alongside American forces. He was captured by the Japanese, whose cruelties toward many of their prisoners has been well documented.

Staff Sgt. Tomas Taguba left the Army ''without so much as a retirement ceremony to thank him for those 20 years of hard work and faithful service,'' General Taguba recalled with evident bitterness in a Veterans Day speech.

More than one complaint against the Army it seems.

36 posted on 06/19/2008 1:40:34 PM PDT by BARLF
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To: garyhope
How the hell did this guy get to be a Major General?

The same way most of them did back in the early Clintoon years.

I was active duty in DC and watched as the real combat hardened veterans of the first Gulf War were pushed aside while some of the worst suck-ups I had ever seen were placed on the promotion lists.

I actually watched as men who had awards for being the best at what they did get passed over for people who had reprimands in their records and were useless!

37 posted on 06/19/2008 1:57:48 PM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: garyhope
"How the hell did this guy get to be a Major General?"

Affirmative action.

38 posted on 06/19/2008 6:03:41 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck)
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