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Murder trial begins for FLDS 'Lost Boy'
abc4.com ^ | 6/17/08 | Susan Wood

Posted on 06/18/2008 9:05:54 AM PDT by Alice in Wonderland

WEST JORDAN, Utah (ABC 4 News) - A young man raised in the FLDS community is now on trial for murder.

Parley Jeffs Dutson is one of the so-called "Lost Boys," exiled as a teen from the polygamous community. Now he is on trial for his former girlfriend's murder.

In court on Tuesday, disturbing details were released about what happened at a party last April where 15-year-old Kara Hopkins was shot after allegedly refusing sex.

Sometime around 2:30 a.m. on April 7, 2007, a seasoned security guard and his partner found a scene that still brings him to tears.

On the witness stand today, guard Cody Cross recounted seeing Dutson kneeling between the legs of the injured girl. She was lying nearly naked and struggling for air after a single gunshot from behind.

Cross said Dutson chanted as he hovered over her. Sometimes the words were unintelligible, but other times, they were very clear and included profanities and threats.

Cross said Dutson wouldn't follow commands and police ended up carrying him out of the apartment. Officials tried to revive Hopkins, but her injury was too severe.

In court, family and friends heard the horrific details, often gasping or shaking their heads in disgust.

Tuesday was the first day of Dutson's trial on sexual assault and murder charges. Eyewitnesses from the party are expected to testify that Dutson was high on mushrooms when he tried to force Hopkins into sex.

Dutson's attorney would not make any comment outside the courtroom today, but he has stated before that Dutson loved Hopkins and this wouldn't have happened if he hadn't taken the drugs.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: flds

The boy was socialized as a male in the FLDS to have sex with females of any age after puberty with no need for consent from the female. And since blood atonement is also part of this so called religion, killing resisters (read heretics) is perfectly OK.

Some will say, "But he was kicked out! He's not FLDS!" Yes, he was, right down to his programming. Then he was discarded like an unwanted dog. That's the FLDS, too.

No FLDS, no lost boy, no crime.

1 posted on 06/18/2008 9:05:55 AM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
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To: Alice in Wonderland; greyfoxx39; colorcountry

Yep.


2 posted on 06/18/2008 9:09:56 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: Alice in Wonderland

Oh come on, your whole rant is ridiculous.


3 posted on 06/18/2008 9:09:59 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: Alice in Wonderland

Oh, now ya gone and done it...


4 posted on 06/18/2008 9:10:02 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery.)
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To: Alice in Wonderland
Occam's Razor.

You should try it sometime.

5 posted on 06/18/2008 9:12:47 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: caver
This is the Nile:


6 posted on 06/18/2008 9:13:52 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery.)
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To: ejonesie22

So if this guy were a Baptist, we could blame his religion for murdering that girl? That makes sense.


7 posted on 06/18/2008 9:17:31 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: caver
Last I checked blood atonement, marrying underage girls, running out young men and polygamy were not part of the Baptist system of beliefs and was not practiced by their members.

Of course they did have a convention recently, so things may have changed...

8 posted on 06/18/2008 9:22:34 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery.)
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To: Alice in Wonderland
"Some will say, "But he was kicked out! He's not FLDS!"

Yeah, he was kicked out....because the 50-year old men didn't want him being marital competition for the 14-year old girls.

9 posted on 06/18/2008 9:37:41 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Here they come boys! As thick as grass, and as black as thunder!)
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To: caver
Oh come on, your whole rant is ridiculous.

Perhaps to some degree, but obviously, a polygamous cult like the FLDS isn't conducive to mental and emotional stability in kids.

10 posted on 06/18/2008 9:54:56 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Not to mention that it was a sense of spiritual achievement to have yourself, or one of your daughters ‘spiritually’ married to the Prophet, or his Royal Court members, instead of some hormonal teenager, yearning to sow his wild oats.


11 posted on 06/18/2008 9:58:35 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all pesters)
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To: caver

“So if this guy were a Baptist, we could blame his religion for murdering that girl? That makes sense.”

It make sense if he were Muslim.


12 posted on 06/18/2008 10:31:29 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Alice in Wonderland

What a sad story. Of course we are told drugs like mushrooms and weed are not harmful. What a lie.


13 posted on 06/18/2008 11:26:59 AM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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To: UCANSEE2

“Not to mention that it was a sense of spiritual achievement to have yourself, or one of your daughters ‘spiritually’ married to the Prophet, or his Royal Court members, instead of some hormonal teenager, yearning to sow his wild oats.”

Yeah, I’m sure the “Prophets” were real fine spouses.


14 posted on 06/18/2008 11:58:16 AM PDT by SeminoleSoldier
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To: colorcountry; Pan_Yans Wife; MHGinTN; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; Osage Orange; svcw; Enosh; ...

Fruit from the poisoned tree Ping


15 posted on 06/18/2008 12:13:23 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tagline on vacation during the grand experiment.)
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To: caver
So if this guy were a Baptist, we could blame his religion for murdering that girl?

If the Baptist church taught that women existed only to serve men, and that their consent was not required for sex, then yes, yes you could.

16 posted on 06/18/2008 12:19:36 PM PDT by Ron Jeremy (sonic)
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To: Alice in Wonderland

I would want to know, where did he get the gun?

Why did he have it at a party?

What kind of party was this?

How long has he been away from the FLDS ‘church’?

Is this boy mentally retarded in any way?


17 posted on 06/18/2008 12:42:12 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all pesters)
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To: vpintheak

Are you one of the Mrs. Dutsons?

The victim’s mother tells Eyewitness News Dutson was high on hallucinogenic mushrooms and marijuana at the time. But a narcotics expert we talked with says mushrooms do not cause violent outbursts.

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=1087001


18 posted on 06/18/2008 12:43:36 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland (4-Hshootingsports.org)
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To: greyfoxx39

Is that term meant in the ‘legal’ sense, or

the Fruit (sons) of the poisoned tree(Warren Jeffs rules and prophecies) that created these homeless, marginally educated, non-street wise, soul damned for eternity by Jeffs, “If I’m going to hell, I’m gonna do it in style”?


19 posted on 06/18/2008 12:48:44 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all pesters)
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To: UCANSEE2
Is that term meant in the ‘legal’ sense, or....

The tree that was planted by Joseph Smith and nurtured to maturity by various polygamous leaders all the way down to Jeffs.

20 posted on 06/18/2008 1:01:43 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tagline on vacation during the grand experiment.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Taking kids from a highly structured environment and dumping them out in the world with nothing, no guidance or resources, is setting them up for trouble. This case is really tragic.


21 posted on 06/18/2008 1:16:11 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland (4-Hshootingsports.org)
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To: UCANSEE2

Trial set in killing of teen

By Pat Reavy
Deseret Morning News

WEST JORDAN — An 18-year-old man accused of shooting and killing his girlfriend during a party at his apartment after she refused to have sex with him has been bound over for trial.

During a preliminary hearing Wednesday, 3rd District Judge Terry Christiansen found there was sufficient probable cause to advance the case against Parley Jeffs Dutson on the charges of criminal homicide and aggravated sexual assault, both first-degree felonies.

He is accused of killing 15-year-old Kara Hopkins at the Willow Cove Apartments near 9300 S. Redwood Road on April 7.

During Wednesday’s preliminary hearing, four people who were at Dutson’s apartment the night of the shooting, including cousins and long-time friends, gave similar accounts of Dutson being high from taking hallucinogenic mushrooms and smoking marijuana prior to the shooting. Each gave similar accounts of Dutson being paranoid about someone named “Curtis” who was coming over to the apartment to “get him,” prompting him to carry a gun in his waistband for 30 to 45 minutes before the slaying.

Also during that time, Hopkins continually rejected Dutson’s requests for sex, which he demanded in crude, blunt terms, according to witnesses. At one point he began waving his gun around the room and pointed it at Hopkins before dropping it to his side, witnesses said. That pattern of pointing the gun at Hopkins and dropping it continued for several minutes.

At one point, when the gun was at his side, Hopkins began walking away from Dutson with her back turned to him, when Dutson suddenly lifted the gun again and shot her in the back of the head, witnesses said. Just prior to the shooting, another friend was trying to get the gun away from Dutson by convincing him that no one was coming over to harm him.

“Well, Kara’s coming,” were Dutson’s final words before firing, according to 16-year-old Michelle Raynolds. After he fired, Dutson continued to say, “I love you, Kara,” according to her friend.

Several witnesses testified that Dutson had eaten the “caps” off four hallucinogenic mushrooms before the party while others had mixed up what was described as “mushroom tea.” Those who went to the party say from the minute they walked in they saw an obvious change in the normally quiet, laid-back Dutson.

“Parley’s eyes were red and he was slurring (his words),” said 16-year-old Cody Rabbit.

“I knew that he was high,” concurred 19-year-old Daniel Pipkin.

Christopher Musser, who also drank some of the mushroom tea, said Dutson may have been hallucinating like some of the others who had taken drugs. Musser said he thought patterns in the carpet were moving. He said another friend was seeing characters from “The Simpsons” walk around the room.

“He could have been seeing so many different things,” Musser said. “Who knows what was going through his head.”

Several times throughout the night Dutson proclaimed he wanted to have sex with Hopkins. All of the witnesses said at one point Dutson removed Hopkins’ belt from her pants.

“He kept trying to grab her around the waist and unzip her shirt,” Rabbit said. “She kept saying, ‘No, maybe later. Not in front of everyone.’”

When two apartment security guards arrived at the apartment after the shooting, they found Dutson wearing only boxer shorts and a T-shirt sitting on the floor with Hopkins’ nearly naked body. The guards testified Dutson was talking really fast and repeating the same things over and over.

Defense attorney Brian Gardner said that his client, who did not take the witness stand Wednesday, does not remember anything from that night.

Dutson sat in a tan jail jumpsuit with only one hand in cuffs during the hearing. The other hand was used to write notes on a pad. A pre-trial hearing is scheduled for June 26.

Originally published Tuesday, June 26, 2007


22 posted on 06/18/2008 1:32:12 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland (4-Hshootingsports.org)
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To: Alice in Wonderland
No, are you really in Wonderland? Hmm... lets see: I take hallucinogenic illegal drugs, and I'm as peaceful and normal as I was before I put this substance in my body. Yep, makes sense to me, not.
23 posted on 06/18/2008 1:37:30 PM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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To: Alice in Wonderland

Well, he wasn’t homeless.

However he seemed to fall into the pattern of the Lost Boys.

Condemned to hell by the leader of their faith, who proclaims GOD told him they are going to hell.

Now his life has really gone to hell.


Loose on the street, they turn to the easiest escape.

Our society has many types of ‘Lost Boys’, and some have done the same or worse.

So while the FLDS may have set a pattern for this activity, they aren’t the only ones that ‘throw away’ their children.

The problem I have is, if a ‘religion’ will throw away it’s boys, based on the word of their Leader (Prophet), what would they do to their girls?

If the life of a boy is disposable, how can this ‘religion’ claim to be Christian?


24 posted on 06/18/2008 1:59:57 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all pesters)
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To: vpintheak

“Of course we are told drugs like mushrooms and weed are not harmful. “

I wouldn’t say they can’t be harmful, but I would say that the mind of the person taking them makes all the difference.


25 posted on 06/18/2008 2:02:01 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all pesters)
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To: Alice in Wonderland
No FLDS, no lost boy, no crime.

Because males not raised FLDS never take drugs and try to have sex with 15 year-old girls

26 posted on 06/18/2008 2:03:39 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Society is well governed when the people obey the magistrates, and the magistrates obey the law)
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To: Alice in Wonderland

BTW, Thank you for posting the additional info.


“Each gave similar accounts of Dutson being paranoid about someone named “Curtis” who was coming over to the apartment to “get him,” prompting him to carry a gun in his waistband for 30 to 45 minutes before the slaying.”

Maybe Curtis wanted his money.

: )


27 posted on 06/18/2008 2:06:09 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all pesters)
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To: Oztrich Boy

Of course, in the mind bending twisted logic of the cabal running rampant here. Psychotic acrobatic mental gymnastics should be an Olympic sport because we would have some real gold medal winners here.


28 posted on 06/18/2008 2:07:36 PM PDT by commonguymd (Freedom and individual liberty is for everyone, including the odd and weird people like you.)
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To: vpintheak

P.S. Unless you take too darn much.


29 posted on 06/18/2008 2:20:52 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all pesters)
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To: vpintheak

More Questions.

Did this boy have a habit of smoking pot and/or eating mushrooms?

What location of the FLDS was he ‘thrown out’ of?

Was he thrown out just for being a certain age, or was he violating religious codes, like doing drugs?


In any case, it was a senseless and horrid murder, and he will be punished for his actions.


30 posted on 06/18/2008 2:36:06 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all pesters)
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To: UCANSEE2

The mother described her daughter as “my little princess.” The Murray High School sophomore enjoyed jazz and hip-hop dancing and was interested in law, Hopkins said.

Kara Hopkins had dated Dutson for about a year, Hopkins said, and the two met years earlier while Hopkins lived in St. George.

Dutson came over for dinner most Sunday nights, Hopkins said.

“He was a good guy,” she said. “He’s always been great to her. He’s always treated her with respect. And me, too.”

Hopkins said she knew Dutson well and never knew him to use drugs or be around guns. She said a friend of Dutson’s had kept a handgun in Dutson’s apartment.

“I think he just got in with the wrong people,” Hopkins said. “I have mixed feelings about him. I always liked him. [But] I hope he’s punished for what he did.”

Dutson is from a polygamous community in Colorado City, Ariz., and others who have left the community were at the party that night, Hopkins said.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6764736


31 posted on 06/18/2008 2:44:21 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland (4-Hshootingsports.org)
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To: UCANSEE2

Agreed. Also any substance that is known to alter thought process is bad, bad, bad. No matter what kind of mind one has.


32 posted on 06/18/2008 2:44:27 PM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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To: vpintheak

Mushrooms, like other psychedelics, may bring psychological problems to the surface.


33 posted on 06/18/2008 3:06:21 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland (4-Hshootingsports.org)
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To: Alice in Wonderland

“Taking kids from a highly structured environment and dumping them out in the world with nothing, no guidance or resources, is setting them up for trouble. “

That is exactly what TX CPS tried to do with all of the FLDS children - all of them - every last one. Gotcha.


34 posted on 06/18/2008 4:06:27 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy
Did you know that the Baptists gave the flds kids bicycles while they were in protective custody?
35 posted on 06/18/2008 4:18:20 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland (4-Hshootingsports.org)
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To: Saundra Duffy

Dumped them - what?
Here I thought they were placed in foster homes with other children (even toys and bikes to play with)...
So you are saying that TX CPS turned these kids out on the streets to roam around.......weird.
Now that is something I have not read in any paper reports.


36 posted on 06/18/2008 5:38:27 PM PDT by roylene
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To: Alice in Wonderland

With a crowd like the FLDS there’s bound to be a few bodies buried around that were killed by those still in the fold.


37 posted on 06/18/2008 10:05:07 PM PDT by festus (Tagline removed.)
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To: roylene
No, two different issues. Here's what Alice was talking about:

The lost boys, thrown out of US sect so that older men can marry more wives

Warren Jeffs' 'lost boys' find themselves in strange world

38 posted on 06/19/2008 6:28:42 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: greyfoxx39

What goes around, comes around....


39 posted on 06/20/2008 6:41:12 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: greyfoxx39

Can’t have any of that women thinking for themselves thing, now can we?

Refusing sex? How dare she!


40 posted on 06/20/2008 6:42:03 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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