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Don't judge Kozinski by his porn (Post)
LA Times ^ | 13 June 2008 | Editorial Staff

Posted on 06/13/2008 4:44:01 AM PDT by shrinkermd

An apology from the 9th Circuit judge for his computer collection of porn isn't necessary. He just needs to say, 'So what?'

...Judge Alex Kozinski's statements about the stash of sexually explicit images he collected and that the public (until this week) could view on his website have been varied, although not necessarily inconsistent: He thought the site was for private storage and offered no public access (although he shared some of the material on the site with friends). People have been sending him this stuff for years (implying that it just accumulates, like junk mail). He might accidentally have uploaded the photos and videos when intending to upload something else. His son did it

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; US: California
KEYWORDS: 9thcircuit; california; judges; kozinski; obscenity; porn
"Shared with friends?" Deciding obscenity case? The Internet did it?
1 posted on 06/13/2008 4:44:01 AM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd
Deport the perv back to his native Romania and never insult America by calling him an "American" again.

It's an abomination that this fruit sits as a judge over the rest of us in the land our families fought and died for.

2 posted on 06/13/2008 4:47:17 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: Regulator

LA Times at it again. Defining degeneracy down.


3 posted on 06/13/2008 4:51:20 AM PDT by y6162
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To: shrinkermd

The dog ate my hard drive....


4 posted on 06/13/2008 4:53:42 AM PDT by ozark hilljilly (I was gruntled before I was disgruntled.)
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To: shrinkermd

Substitute a prominent conservative judge’s name and see what the Lost Intelligence Times would have written.


5 posted on 06/13/2008 4:54:38 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Da Coyote

He is a prominent conservative judge.


6 posted on 06/13/2008 4:55:31 AM PDT by dinoparty
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To: shrinkermd

I could care less that this judge had this material or even that he had a private collection of stuff that he thought was funny because of its outlandish nature.

However, the fact that he placed this material online is incredibly stupid. He in effect made it public to children by doing so.

Get a sock drawer for crying out loud Kasinski!


7 posted on 06/13/2008 4:58:25 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: dinoparty

Says who?

The LA Times?


8 posted on 06/13/2008 4:59:53 AM PDT by WayneS (What the hell is wrong with these people?)
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To: shrinkermd

The good news is, this isn’t the only reason to remove him immediately from the bench forever.

The bad news is, this isn’t the only reason to remove him immediately from the bench forever.

IMPEACH.


9 posted on 06/13/2008 5:02:16 AM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: Regulator
It's an abomination that this fruit sits as a judge over the rest of us in the land our families fought and died for.

Are you serious? Kozinski is, hands down, the best judge in the Ninth Circuit and certainly among the best judges in the nation, and that includes the folks on the Supreme Court. He is thoughtful, deliberate, intelligent and a clear (and often funny) writer. We need more Kozinskis, not less.

10 posted on 06/13/2008 5:03:39 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: dinoparty
He is a prominent conservative judge.

He's one of the greatest judges in the nation. No surprise most freepers know nothing about him.

11 posted on 06/13/2008 5:05:07 AM PDT by Sandy
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To: WayneS
Says who?

Anyone remotely familiar with the federal judiciary.

12 posted on 06/13/2008 5:05:08 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

This guy was one of the great hopes to be a conservative supreme court justice


13 posted on 06/13/2008 5:05:39 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: shrinkermd

Kinda makes you wonder what kind of porn the writers of this editorial have on their hard drives.As if we didn’t know.


14 posted on 06/13/2008 5:05:46 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Will the dancing Hitlers please wait in the wings? We're only seeing singing Hitlers.)
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To: mylife
he placed this material online

He didn't. His son did.

15 posted on 06/13/2008 5:06:46 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: Publius Valerius

Well said.


16 posted on 06/13/2008 5:07:06 AM PDT by Sandy
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To: Publius Valerius

I hadnt heard that.
Still, Its an incredible blunder.


17 posted on 06/13/2008 5:08:03 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Publius Valerius

Thanks for that information. One way to look at is in Freudian terms. He said, more or less, “...when it comes to women all men are stupid...”


18 posted on 06/13/2008 5:09:14 AM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: Publius Valerius

So he had a legit website that handled Email and folks sent the material to that website thinking it wasnt in the public section?


19 posted on 06/13/2008 5:12:53 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
Still, Its an incredible blunder.

Yep, it's a blunder. It's embarrassing, particularly considering some of the material that was there. It was not garden variety porn. But that's just what it was--a blunder; they thought it was private and it wasn't. It's an embarrassing mistake, but it's nothing to get panties in a twist over, so to speak.

20 posted on 06/13/2008 5:13:00 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: Publius Valerius

He will never get confirmed to the supreme court now.


21 posted on 06/13/2008 5:14:59 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

I’m honestly not sure. Here’s a snippet of another article that describes it.

“Kozinski’s son, Yale, told the New York Times yesterday evening that he maintained the site, which also included family photos and some of his father’s articles. “This server is my private Web server,” Yale Kozinski said. “It’s owned by me. The domain is registered to me. The people who have access to put files up there are friends and family.”

“Everyone in the family stores stuff there, and I had no idea what some of the stuff is or was—I was surprised that it was there,” Alex Kozinski told Above the Law. “I assumed I must have put it there by accident, but when the story broke, Yale called and said he’s pretty sure he uploaded a bunch of it. I had no idea, but that sounds right, because I sure don’t remember putting some of that stuff there. I consider the server a private storage device, not meant for public access. I’d have been more careful about its contents if I had known that others could access it.””


22 posted on 06/13/2008 5:15:48 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: Publius Valerius

It all sounds bizarre. I wouldnt be sharing that stuff with family no matter what their age. I’m sure it was a running joke in the family. “omg! look at this one!” “who are these people”? etc...

But that in itself is bizarre.


23 posted on 06/13/2008 5:20:21 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
He will never get confirmed to the supreme court now.

No, but I think he missed his chance anyway. There's no way Obama will nominate him, and I doubt McCain would have even before this. Too bad; he would have been good.

24 posted on 06/13/2008 5:21:16 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: Publius Valerius

Sad story.


25 posted on 06/13/2008 5:22:34 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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hopeful someone can hack Souter’s


26 posted on 06/13/2008 5:25:00 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: shrinkermd
Notably, it's interesting to see how this story came to light: a guy with an axe to grind with Kozinski.

"AP spoke to Beverly Hills, Calif., attorney Cyrus Sanai, who said he had told the Los Angeles Times about the images on the Kozinski website. He said he found them while monitoring the site as part of a dispute with the 9th Circuit in connection with his parents’ divorce. He said he contacted reporters at various publications since January in an effort to expose them."

Nothing like being persistent, I suppose.

27 posted on 06/13/2008 5:25:07 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: Publius Valerius

I should note that it’s also bad luck for Kozinski. I bet the LA Times never would have run the story if it weren’t for Kozinski currently presiding over a fairly high-profile obscenity case in Los Angeles.


28 posted on 06/13/2008 5:26:47 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: Publius Valerius

laid back editorial response may be pre-emptive, how many other public figures may be at the same jeopardy on sites they don’t or didn’t know had same kind of access?


29 posted on 06/13/2008 5:43:58 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: shrinkermd

Our Imperial Judiciary is above criticism.


30 posted on 06/13/2008 5:54:23 AM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA

It’s Bush’s Fault


31 posted on 06/13/2008 6:38:33 AM PDT by Victory111
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To: ozark hilljilly
"The dog ate my hard drive...."

From what I've read about the photos the judge had, that's not all the dog did.

32 posted on 06/13/2008 6:41:20 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: mylife
"Still, Its an incredible blunder."

You might say he displayed poor.......judge-ment.

33 posted on 06/13/2008 6:44:21 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Sandy

This guy is a “prominent conservative judge”??? Oh please.


34 posted on 06/13/2008 6:57:46 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: Oldpuppymax
He's as prominent as they get without being on the Supreme Court. Go learn something about the guy instead of doing the Pavlovian drool like everyone else around here. Try this, for starters.
35 posted on 06/13/2008 7:05:03 AM PDT by Sandy
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To: Publius Valerius
Are you serious?

Why yes. I know about the guy. He's a whack job, even if he isn't quite as whacked as the other loonies on the 9th.

36 posted on 06/13/2008 7:30:41 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: Regulator
Why yes. I know about the guy. He's a whack job

As long as you're defaming someone, why don't you be more specific?

37 posted on 06/13/2008 7:40:06 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: Oldpuppymax
I notice the website I linked for you has a lot of dead links on it. Use this link instead.
38 posted on 06/13/2008 8:24:54 AM PDT by Sandy
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To: shrinkermd

Anyone who’s actually looked at the stuff can see that it’s just raunchy humor, not porn. For anyone who cares, Patterico has the stuff up on his blog.


39 posted on 06/13/2008 8:36:54 AM PDT by Sandy
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To: Sandy

Thanks for the post. I could only find two pictures. The rest of the links did not work.

Pictures were in bad taste and not funny, but some would see them as humorous. Not designed to elicit sexual responses.


40 posted on 06/13/2008 8:45:31 AM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: mylife

“He will never get confirmed to the supreme court now.”

Who knows? His porn collection would likely be seen as a positive by socialist politicians.


41 posted on 06/13/2008 1:15:28 PM PDT by monday
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To: monday

Given his conservative roots I doubt it.
He will be branded a closet pervert.


42 posted on 06/13/2008 1:21:20 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Publius Valerius
There's a good piece about this on this blog

Here are the facts as I've been able to tell: For at least a month, a disgruntled litigant, angry at Judge Kozinski (and the Ninth Circuit) has been talking to the media to try to smear Kozinski. Kozinski had sent a link to a file (unrelated to the stuff being reported about) that was stored on a file server maintained by Kozinski's son, Yale. From that link (and a mistake in how the server was configured), it was possible to determine the directory structure for the server. From that directory structure, it was possible to see likely interesting places to peer. The disgruntled sort did that, and shopped some of what he found to the news sources that are now spreading it....The site was not "on the web" in the sense of a site open and inviting anyone to come in. It had a robots.txt file to indicate its contents were not to be indexed. That someone got in is testimony to the fact that security -- everywhere -- is imperfect. But this was a private file server, like a private room, hacked by a litigant with a vendetta. Decent people -- and publications -- should say shame on the person violating the privacy here, and not feed the violation by forcing a judge to defend his humor to a nosy world.

43 posted on 06/13/2008 2:22:36 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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