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The Climate Alarmist Manifesto
American Thinker ^ | June 13, 2008 | Marc Sheppard

Posted on 06/13/2008 2:13:31 AM PDT by Puzzleman

Just as class struggle forms the nucleus of Marxism, so does it sit at the very core of the Left's climate alarmism. At a glance, the regressive nature of fiscal Carbon control schemes, be they taxation or cap-and-trade, would appear to be antithetical to liberal thinking. But beneath the veneer of both the domestic and international green agenda lies a devious wealth-redistribution plan compared to which all predecessors pale...

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: agw; capandtrade; ghg; greens; marxism
Scary!
1 posted on 06/13/2008 2:13:32 AM PDT by Puzzleman
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To: Puzzleman
Rembering Clear Skies
2 posted on 06/13/2008 3:33:57 AM PDT by endthematrix (Now that we use our corn for fuel, when do we eat coal for dinner?)
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To: Puzzleman
Yes, this is scary. Never in my lifetime which is now a long time have I seen such a threat to human freedom and our way of life as exists in the environmental movement which does seem to threaten with a Marxist style of government. My Father-in-Law, who was one of the most learned people I have ever known, said many years ago that the power of television would eventually destroy America. And, so he was right. He believed people would stop thinking for themselves because of the power of imagery. I believe the GW scare has been foisted upon us for the purpose of overturning our way of life and then grabbing the power over all our resources, human and material and most of their power has been gained through the use of film. I grieve as I think about the dark future which awaits the children. Al Gore will be gone but his legacy will throw our children and his into a state of deprivation and mourning such as this nation has never seen. And the demise of America and other Western societies will mean that the other impoverished nations around the globe will have no hope of a better life. Folks, I think this is it. Government has been taken over by the fringe and the mighty megaphones of the media, most of whom could not have survived a science class in college, are spreading these false theories to people who have forgotten to think for themselves. When I was a child, I could not have imagined that my greatest fear and discomfort would comes at the hands of my own countrymen/women. Greed for money and power has taken over the world.
3 posted on 06/13/2008 3:34:30 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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To: jazzlite
The enviro nazis agenda is huge and effecting every point of our existence. I heard Obama say we can't eat what we want, heat to 72 degrees or drive a decent car...

So food, shelter, warmth, going to work, traveling and making the economy grow.......These are all bad things?? Right??

The dude went to Harvard, has nice suits, flies all over the place....My, wouldn't we like to have what he has...And most of us have worked a hell of a lot harder than he has. He's NOT a worker, he's a Con Artist!!

4 posted on 06/13/2008 3:49:02 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (N)
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To: Puzzleman

bttt


5 posted on 06/13/2008 4:07:13 AM PDT by Ghengis (Of course freedom is free. If it wasn't, it would be called expensivedom. ~Cindy Sheehan 11/11/06)
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To: jazzlite
He believed people would stop thinking for themselves because of the power of imagery.

TV and the MSM provide intellectual welfare. Why think when popular-think is done for you?

6 posted on 06/13/2008 4:21:31 AM PDT by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: jazzlite

I agree with everything you said, and I pray you are wrong.


7 posted on 06/13/2008 4:46:42 AM PDT by Puzzleman ("All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing." -- Edmund Burke)
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To: jazzlite
I agree, this is extremely scary, and more so because this is quite likely EXACTLY the wrong thing to do now.

From a recent article: “But let's look at the modelled temperature increases associated with each scenario. “Agree and ignore” sees temperatures rise by 4.85C by 2100 (with a 90% probability); for “Kyoto plus”, it's 3.31C; and “step change” 2.89C.”

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These numskulls are so far away from reality that I wonder if they are in an alternate universe!

There is NO way that this is going to occur. Even in the unlikely event that the present temperature trend continued, the most that temperatures would rise is about 1.5C. (Of course, they are probably postulating that temperatures be measured in the heart of growing residential areas instead of having the actual temperature of Earth measured.)

Moreover, and more importantly, we STILL have not started solar cycle 24. It is by now well established that the length of the solar cycle is well correlated to the temperature of Earth, though the mechanisms are still to be well understood. Most solar scientists agree that the Sun is now hotter than it has been for at least 8,000 years, and most are predicting that it is going to be much cooler during the next 50 years.

Over the last 200+ years, the solar cycle has averaged almost exactly 132 months = 11 years.

Cycles 18-23 (1944 to 1996) averaged a short 125 months long. (Thus the higher temp)

This cycle now is over 144 months long, and still counting. There have been a couple cycle 24 spots, but there are still more cycle 23 spots.

There is a very strong negative correlation of cycle length with Earth’s temperature. My recollection of this is that it amounts to about 0.1C / 100 days, and I’m going to just depend on that memory for purposes of this post. If accurate, the implication then, is that this particular cycle has already set us up for a temperature decrease of 0.57C compared to 1944-1996. That means ITS GOING TO GET COLDER, folks, not warmer!

I am far more concerned about falling world-wide temperatures than a degree or two of warmer temps. If these dolts also reduce the CO2 in the atmosphere, it will slow the growth of badly needed plant material, and add to the problems of our world and its people. Pretty much par for the course, for socialists and politicians, though.


8 posted on 06/13/2008 7:43:49 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: AFPhys

If it’s going to get colder, we certainly need to drill and explore for oil. Or else millions of people will face a man made catastrophe. Freezing to death because they can’t afford to heat their homes.


9 posted on 06/13/2008 7:46:15 AM PDT by mainerforglobalwarming
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To: mainerforglobalwarming

It is worse than just getting cooler. The higher CO2 in the atmosphere has clearly raised the production of the world’s vegetation. If the bureaucrats and environuts are able to enforce lowering it, we will get a double-whammy on agricultural and forest production.


10 posted on 06/13/2008 10:16:18 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: Genesis defender; proud_yank; FrPR; enough_idiocy; rdl6989; TenthAmendmentChampion; Horusra; ...

ping


11 posted on 06/13/2008 3:49:32 PM PDT by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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FReepmail me to get on or off


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Read this one carefully...
12 posted on 06/13/2008 4:29:48 PM PDT by xcamel (Being on the wrong track means the unintended consequences express train doesnt kill you going by)
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To: Puzzleman

excellent post! Thanks.


13 posted on 06/14/2008 9:28:14 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (GOP Plank: Pump MORE US Crude--2Xrefining capacity -- Coal /METHANOL fuel-- Build Nukes)
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