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Obama's Plan for Defeat
Townhall.com ^ | 0613/08 | Charles Krauthammer

Posted on 06/12/2008 9:54:42 PM PDT by Enchante

The disconnect between what Democrats are saying about Iraq and what is actually happening there has reached grotesque proportions. Democrats won an exhilarating electoral victory in 2006 pledging withdrawal at a time when conditions in Iraq were dire and we were indeed losing the war. Two years later, when everything is changed, they continue to reflexively repeat their "narrative of defeat and retreat" (as Joe Lieberman so memorably called it) as if nothing has changed.

It is a position so utterly untenable that John McCain must seize the opportunity and, contrary to conventional wisdom, make the Iraq War the central winning plank of his campaign. Yes, Americans are war-weary. Yes, most think we should not have engaged in the first place. Yes, Obama will keep pulling out his 2002 speech opposing the war.

But McCain's case is simple. Is not Obama's central mantra that this election is about the future not the past? It is about 2009, not 2002. Obama promises that upon his inauguration, he will order the Joint Chiefs to bring him a plan for withdrawal from Iraq within 16 months. McCain says that upon his inauguration, he'll ask the Joint Chiefs for a plan for continued and ultimate success.

The choice could not be more clearly drawn. The Democrats' one objective in Iraq is withdrawal. McCain's one objective is victory.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2008; demagogues; democrats; dnc; iraq; islamofascists; issues; krauthammer; obama; terror; wot
Obama stands for retreat and defeat. He must be made to face the real consequences of his nutty ideas before they are imposed upon our troops and the Iraqis.
1 posted on 06/12/2008 9:54:43 PM PDT by Enchante
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To: Enchante
A Flag B.O. will salute
2 posted on 06/12/2008 9:56:12 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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Obama wants to force us to lose in Iraq, just when much progress is being made and we can succeed beyond what seemed possible to most people not too long ago.


3 posted on 06/12/2008 9:56:24 PM PDT by Enchante (Barack Chamberlain: My 1930s Appeasement Policy Goes Well With My 1960s Socialist Policies!)
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4 posted on 06/12/2008 10:08:03 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY ((((Stop the Obamanation!))))
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To: Free ThinkerNY

5 posted on 06/12/2008 10:19:50 PM PDT by al baby (Hi mom)
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To: Enchante

The choice could not be more clearly drawn. The Democrats’ one objective in Iraq is withdrawal. McCain’s one objective is victory. (from original post)

yes. And even today, reports are again about major security progress in Iraq. People should talk more to returning soldiers rather than listening to all the MSM. JSM needs to get the cojones to ask BHO what he’d do (after he yanks all the troops abruptly back home) when Iran and the terrorists take over Iraq. Of course, he’d send our troops back (only this time with MANY more casualties and countless consequences).


6 posted on 06/12/2008 10:21:51 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: Enchante
Everytime I go over to KOS, and see the absolutely mindless kool-aid drinkers that place has become, I am reminded of THIS song. And it SCARES THE HELL OUT OF ME.
7 posted on 06/12/2008 10:25:49 PM PDT by tcrlaf (I Refuse To Inject Myself With The "Hopium" Obama Is Selling)
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Here’s the song link.
Youtube must not imbed well...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdM8PDu6VMg&eurl=http://www.americablog.com/


8 posted on 06/12/2008 10:26:23 PM PDT by tcrlaf (I Refuse To Inject Myself With The "Hopium" Obama Is Selling)
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To: Enchante

Nobody (reporter) asks him if we are going to fight our way back into Baghdad if we leave, the place collapses, and a nutcase takes the helm.


9 posted on 06/12/2008 10:33:18 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (Iraq's WMD's will be found in Syria after Bush leaves office.God will vindicate a righteous decision)
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To: Enchante
Appease, retreat, disengage, and gut our forces. That sums it up pretty well to me.


THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA


10 posted on 06/12/2008 10:38:57 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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Holy cow...that is exactly the type of change Obama will bring. Scary. Somebody outght to cut into the end of that part of that mindless Obama production with the Obama, Obama, Obama...and change that they cab eblieve in.

That would be powerful, and spot on.

Deserves its own thread...I'll put it together.

11 posted on 06/12/2008 10:51:43 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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Well, battle lines are drawn in this election. The American people face a sharp, clear choice, between liberal socialist policies, and more moderate conservative (though not conservative enough in some areas) policies. They face a choice between retreat and surrender vs. onward to final victory. They face a choice between appeasement and staying on offense to do our best to ensure that Sept 11th never happens again.


12 posted on 06/12/2008 11:36:15 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Enchante
If McCain cannot take to the American people the case for the folly of that policy, he will not be president. Nor should he be.
And this is precisely why McCain won't be President. He definitely won't be taking the case to the American people, not in the way Krauthammer is urging him to. It's not McCain's style.

You know how maddening the years of Bush have been, as Bush lets the left slide on issue after issue without ever confronting them head on? Well, take that tendency to wimp-out, multiply it by a thousand, and you've got McCain.

McCain won't be taking any cases to the American people.

McCain's too busy reaching across the aisle.

So you might as well keep your advice to yourself, Mr. Krauthammer, because McCain's not listening.

What you should do in the meantime, since McCain's not going to read or heed anything you write, is take some time off and contemplate how you went so far leftist yourself, with your recent piece calling for increased federal taxes on gasoline as a way to "solve" the oil shortage problem.

I think you suffer from the same mental disease McCain does, your case just isn't so advanced.

I prescribe: back to the basics. Read up on basic principles of conservatism, especially economic conservatism. Then come back and pontificate.

13 posted on 06/13/2008 3:09:01 AM PDT by samtheman
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Everytime I go over to KOS, and see the absolutely mindless kool-aid drinkers that place has become, I am reminded of THIS song. And it SCARES THE HELL OUT OF ME.

Has become? That place was from the beginning occupied by Moonbats and kool-aid drinkers

14 posted on 06/13/2008 3:35:41 AM PDT by Kaslin (The Nation will live to regret what the Court has done today. I dissent. Justice Scalia)
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15 posted on 06/13/2008 4:34:02 AM PDT by Jaxter (Everything I needed to know about Obama I learned by Googling "Black Liberation Theology".)
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To: samtheman
November 5, 2008, GWB gives Iran 48 hours to end nuclear weapons program and invite AIEA into Iran.

November 7, 2008, after Iran refused to heed GWB, he gives them 48 hours to abandon all nuclear facilities.

Dems in congress scream bloody murder, joined by msm.

November 9, 2008, the muhallahs in iran find out {like sadman ho-said} that GWB doesn't play.

16 posted on 06/13/2008 5:21:35 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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