STUCK ON STUPID
Posted on 06/12/2008 6:35:59 PM PDT by STARWISE
Thursday's 5-4 decision awarding "unlawful combatants" at Gitmo --terrorists-- the "privilege of the writ of habeas corpus" has left millions of Americans stunned. What in the world is the majority of the Supreme Court thinking? Justice Scalia, writing in dissent, was blunt:
America is at war with radical Islamists. The enemy began by killing Americans and American allies abroad: 241 at the Marine barracks in Lebanon, 19 at the Khobar Towers in Dhahran, 224 at our embassies in Dar es Salaam and Nairobi, and 17 on the USS Cole in Yemen.
See National Commission on Terrorist Attacks upon the United States, The 9/11 Commission Report, pp. 60–61, 70, 190 (2004).
On September 11, 2001, the enemy brought the battle to American soil, killing 2,749 at the Twin Towers in New York City, 184 at the Pentagon in Washington, D. C., and 40 in Pennsylvania. See id., at 552, n. 9.
It has threatened further attacks against our homeland; one need only walk about buttressed and barricaded Washington, or board a plane anywhere in the country, to know that the threat is a serious one. Our Armed Forces are now in the field against the enemy, in Afghanistan and Iraq. Last week, 13 of our countrymen in arms were killed.
The game of bait-and-switch that today’s opinion plays upon the Nation’s Commander in Chief will make the war harder on us. It will almost certainly cause more Americans to be killed.
These are harsh words, unusually so even for ordinary debate, but amazingly so among the nine. Justice Scalia is quite obviously as frustrated with his aging colleagues as are the vast majority of Americans. There’s a war going on. These terrorists and their still-at-large allies are trying to kill us.
(Excerpt) Read more at townhall.com ...
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Who in their right mind can truly believe that the highest court in the land would ever parse away our safety and lives with such indifference?
Yup, it'd be over the line for Bush, but something's got to be said (or done) about Justices going over the line!
I, for one, am dumbfounded.
Best thing the Congress can do is get rid of them as fast as possible ~ 9:42 this evening would not be too soon.
No good deed goes unpunished....
What I would do is IMMEDIATELY (like tonight) free all the detainees, put them all on planes, and deport them to their home countries. And do if forcibly if they refused to go. I do not want any of them in the United States causing havoc. I do not want them spending our tax dollars on lawyers and the courts.
Stupid ruling.
“....Scalia read from his bitter dissent. He wrote that the Court’s decision “will almost certainly cause more Americans to be killed,” apparently because it will result in dangerous detainees being released. Scalia cited news reports that some of the detainees that have already been released have returned to the battlefield and been involved in suicide bombings and other hostile acts. “The decision is devastating.”
Scalia said that for the first time, military commanders would now have to undertake “the impossible task of proving to a civilian court, under whatever standards the Court devises in the future, that evidence supports the confinement of each and every enemy prisoner. The nation will regret what the Court has done today. I dissent.”
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“Roberts also authored a dissent, criticizing the majority for dismissing out of hand the considered efforts of the other branches to respond to prior Court rulings. The chief justice concluded that “this decision is not really about the detainees at all, but about control of federal policy regarding enemy combatants.”
The ruling, said Roberts, did nothing to advance the rule of law, “unless by that is meant the rule of lawyers, who will now arguably have a greater role than military and intelligence officials in shaping policy for alien enemy combatants.”
http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202422222546&rss=newswire
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God help us PING!
Bush would not be impeached if the militia were to activate itself to protect the people against America’s enemies.
If "millions of Americans" think it's a really bad idea, what is their recourse, if any?
“We have to pray that Justice Scalia is wrong though common sense tells us he is right.”
OPINION: Yep, Justicde Scalia is right.
Vote for Obama/Barry/Hussein, he will make sure we have the right Court.
"There’s a war going on. These terrorists and their still-at-large allies are trying to kill us."
I’d like to see them released them in the airports closest to the justices who voted for this diabolical and insane ruling.
UNLEASH Hell, we can start with telling these bastards what we think about their ruling.
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Dude, we *don’t* wanna go down that road.
As a whole, we are asking for it.
Maybe we deserve Osama-Obama. :-(
I’m going to go to bed tonight in disbelief. I to, am dumbfounded.
Listen Americans, and understand!
The treacherous Democrats and their terrorists are out there! They can’t be bargained with. They can’t be reasoned with. They don’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And they absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead
I’m truly stunned by this ruling.
Even for lefties, this is way too far.
If the honorable justices would attire themselves appropriately instead of wearing basic black dresses, and maybe a string of pearls, they might get more respect. Who can take seriously a bunch of old guys who squat to pee.
No appeal possible. It’s the Supremes, just like the HR Department at my happy corporation which has been known to cause havoc for innocent people. I’m voting for Monarchy, or for a milatary dictatorship every 50 years or so. Human systems naturally deteriorate. Been there, seen that! A renewal mechanism is needed and that’s what the Founding Fathewrs did not realize, or if they realized, talking about future revolutions, we seem to be past the time when one is possible. We’re softier and too comfy!
This is part of a campaign to undercut the war prosecuting powers of the Chief Executive as set forth in the Constitution, to permit the courts and the Congress to exercise authority for the management of wars.
If I were the President, I would immediately return all detainees to the locations of their capture rather than give the Ramsey Clarks of our lawyering class the orgasmic (to them) pleasure of attacking the United States of America using our own courts as the vehicle of their assaults.
He can tell them he reports in this matter to the citizens of the United States.
I know it's a pipe dream, but someday a President has to tell them they aren't rule makers in this matter.
Both major candidates for President agree with the decision.
We do NOT have a candidate who can leverage America's anger about this decision to his electoral advantage. An absolutely wasted opportunity from an electoral perspective.
Yes he does but it really is not an issue with far to many alledged Conservatives on this site because Mr. McCain has an R behind his name . We deserve what we get with the reformer or the Marxist .
How many more “last straws” do the left in this country deserve?
But, hey... we the people are given the option of voting the bastards out of office.
Of course, that’s been “arranged”, too - so our choice is between an arrogant moonbat leftist and... well, an arrogant moonbat leftist. Lovely.
Meanwhile, as terrorists are allowed to be freed to roam among us by our ever-dependable “justice” system (9th circuit, anyone?), we the people are soaked at the gas pump, see our freedoms eroding one by one as we give up free speech and prosperity, and get to listen to blowhard politicians lecture us about how evil we are for using light bulbs and not doing OUR part in combating “global warming” as they put in their 100 days a year before heading back to their mansions and dinner parties for “summer break.”
Perhaps since their own liberal existence as air breathers is about gone they don’t give a damn about us or our country.
“Whens the next Celtics/Lakers game?”
That’s all most Americans care about today......
Maybe we do deserve Osama-Obama.
The only thing I can think to do is pray.
My simple request: Publish the home addresses of the court lib judges after the first released prisoner is found to have returned to the battle and killed one soldier.
Step #2. is to put plenty of chum into the water. Problems solved.
The ruling, said Roberts, did nothing to advance the rule of law, “unless by that is meant the rule of lawyers, who will now arguably have a greater role than military and intelligence officials in shaping policy for alien enemy combatants.
George W. Bush is no longer the President. He is now a figurehead. Anthony Kennedy is now the President. Ladies and Gentlemen, a judicial coup has taken place.
this and the british and canadian hate speech laws and speech codes on u.s. universities
should give islamicists ample room to destroy us.
WE ARE ON OUR OWN.
And yet FDR is a hero for doing nearly exactly that. Jefferson too (stopping the USSC for a year prior to Marbury v. Madison).
One additional thing I would do after deporting the terrorists is quietly issue an order to our heroes in Iraq and Afghanistan. Do not take any prisoners, period. If you are in a joint operation with the Iraq or Afghan forces, let them take the prisoners.
When this thing started and war was declared I thought then it was ridiculous to claim these were detainees. By the Geneva Convention, any soldier caught in civilian clothes was to be declared a spy and SHOT on the spot.
bingo,
The executive branch is equal to the judicial branch, and the Judicial Branch of Government can decide for THEMSELVES what is allowd under the Constitution, and the Executive Branch can do the Same. The Supreme Court ONLY RULES the JUDICIAL branch and Has No Power over the other two branches of government. Now if only we had a President who could actually read the Constitution for what it says.
eyeamok
This one decision probably dooms our chances of defeating IslamoNazi terrorism. This 5-4 decision by the usual cast of neo-communists means that we will surely suffer another 9/11 attack in the near future.
Shame on the five justices who voted to destroy our way of life.
>>If “millions of Americans” think it’s a really bad idea, what is their recourse, if any?<<
They could pressure their representatives in Congress to pass legislation that, in effect, reverses the Supreme Court ruling and, most importantly, takes away the federal courts’ jurisdiction over such cases.
Let’s not forget: Congress defines the federal courts’ jurisdiction and can broaden or narrow that jurisdiction anytime it chooses. The problem is, anti-America Democrats control the Congress and support this destructive ruling, and would probably ignore public pressure to reverse it.
Let’s face it: leftists on the Court and in Congress are committed to America’s defeat and made a bid stride in that direction today.
We are truly through the Looking Glass. I’m reminded of the immortal words of Col. Nathan Jessup in ‘A Few Good Men”....
“All you did was weaken a country today, Kaffee. That’s all you did. You put people in danger. Sweet dreams, son.”
Are you out of your mind? The system was set up so that each branch has a check and/or balance on the others.
"Justicide" v. Suicide by Judicial Tyranny
Now I better go make sure its not already a word ;-)
I can see it coming to that one day in this nation. Load up on weapons and ammo folks. You can’t trust this court with anything. The second amendment is next.
STUCK ON STUPID
Political correctness truly continues to get even worse for everybody, everyday as it truly continues to replace common sense!
I absolutely concur. When the Supreme Court ventures into areas where they don't belong, they should be notified of that fact by the Executive Branch. If the Legislative Branch sides with the Judicial Branch it can take steps to remove the current leader of the Executive.
In the meantime, the Jucicial Branch will have faced that needed check and balance.
This is at least the third time that the Court has taken on itself the power to decide who is a “person” for purposes of enjoying the protections of the Constitution.
In that regard, this decision joins Dred Scott v Sanford and Roe v Wade.
A sad day for reason.
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