Orlando, Florida Newspaper Still Misreports Terri Schiavo as "Brain Dead"

The culture of death realizes that it's more acceptable to kill the "brain dead" than it is to kill the disabled.

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When you repeat the lie often enough it will eventually become the truth...

I’m waiting for justice to catch up to her murderer...

This side of the grave...

The modern news media is the collective embodiment of the term 'brain dead', but they tend to project their feelings of inadequacy over their own neural shortcomings upon anyone lacking their own limited motor skills.

Terri was murdered. Florida is a death state.

And justice could take the name of a truck bumper as he's crossing the street, for all I care.

Brain dead? The only ones brain dead, besides her rat fink husband, were the asshole who let die!

It was the sentence of the state not the husband. The state alone has the power of death.

They don’t even report the race of assailants when asking for help locating them so nothing surprises me.

The state alone has the power of death.

And if you read Amendments Five and Six of the Constitution, the state ONLY has the power to take someone's life if there is a grand jury indictment AND if the person is convicted by a jury.

Terri WAS NOT charged with any crime, therefore the state DID NOT have the constitutional power to take her life.

But, they did anyway. This is possible only because the hospitals are an institution of the state in the same department as the courts and justice. Doctors are officers of the state just like prison wardens. This went through the courts, and we are perhaps blinded since no crime was charged. The power has nothing to do with crime against the state, it exists on its own.

http://abstractappeal.com/schiavo/autopsyreport.pdf

http://abstractappeal.com/schiavo/infopage.html

For those ignorant of FL. law.

Yes, I’ve read this nonsense before. It is full of “we don’t know how she was hurt,” allegations that the Schindlers missed filing deadlines and the overall presumption that, when in doubt, the state should always err on the side of death.

What it DOES NOT address is by what authority the State of Florida was allowed to put a person to death without a grand jury indictment or trial by jury, nor does it explain by what authority a probate judge was authorized to ignore Congressional subpoenas.

Perhaps you might answer this question, if Terri was “incapable” of eating and drinking orally, why was it necessary to prevent, with armed officers, her family from trying?

My personal experiences with The Orlando "Slantinel" and it's coverage of local issues, tell me that it is a leftist rag.

The newspaper is more of an advocate than a reporting organization. If anyone gives me a copy, I use it as ground cover under my garden mulch.

It was the sentence of the state not the husband. The state alone has the power of death.

You are wrong. The State found the evidence to be "clear and compelling" that Michael Schiavo was following his wife's wishes not to to be kept alive using ex-ordinary means. Feeding tubes fall into such s category under the Fl. Constitution. You may not like Greers ruling but it was upheld up all the way to the USSC, which also slapped down the Bush administration for passing a "Terri's law" that was clearly a bill of attainder. The people of FL. voted every politician that thought he would profit from this hyper emotional media created event out of office...Charlie Crist who defied J. Bush on this circus while he was State Atty. General then went on to win election as Governor by a 70% margin. Judge Greer was re-elected to his office by an even larger margin against a candidate who ran on nothing but his opposition to Greer's handling og the Schiavo.

Lesson for all you moral nannies...keep your collective noses out of personal family affairs concerning end of life or death with dignity issues. You have done irreparable damage to conservatism and the GOP with your dogmatic ignorance...

Feeding tubes fall into such s category under the Fl. Constitution.

Did they at the time of Terri's initial injury?

Lesson for all you moral nannies...keep your collective noses out of personal family affairs concerning end of life or death with dignity issues.

Got it, you prefer the wishes of an estranged, adulterous "spouse" over those of the family.

If anyone lives in the area, write an editor’s letter to the newspaper, or call a talk show in the area.

I am not going to dignify your obsession of Terri Schiavo with any further comments. Any lies told to outrage the public...any spurious claims made about principals in this case are effectively debunked in the two links I supplied above.

Before anyone exercises their "righteous anger at what the Schiavo groupies say happened in this case I suggest you read the links and timelines in the link. You will be impressed that the judicial system worked in this State just as "we the people" decreed it should.

News flash! Contrary to popular belief among those who despised Terri Schiavo, she was not a piece of property. She had a right to live, even according to Floriida’s constitution. That right was not up for a vote. It was Terri’s right, regardless of your opinion of her, and your obsession with spreading that opinion like manure.

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Still the same ole BB MO.

My personal experiences with The Orlando “Slantinel” and it’s coverage of local issues, tell me that it is a leftist rag.
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I’ve been in Orlando for 30+ years ,, this rag has always been nicknamed the Slantinel and for good reason... thankfully they are losing readership and advertising dollars at a furious pace ... the scam where they provided free papers to almost 100,000 hotel rooms daily to boost their circulation numbers (and therefore ad rates) was caught onto and discontinued about a year ago.

Funny how these leftist rags hide their own problems ,, they pumped chemicals (primarily TCE) into the groundwater through a secret well in their basement for decades... but they have expunged all mention of it from any Orlando Sentinel online data...

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Pinged from Terri Dailies

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Lesson for all you moral nannies...keep your collective noses out of personal family affairs concerning end of life or death with dignity issues.

Your support of forced dehydration and starvation and the resulting "dignity" is disturbingly macabre.

Lisa MacPherson experienced the same "euphoric" treatment as Terri Schiavo.

I am not going to dignify your obsession of Terri Schiavo with any further comments.

I have no obsession with Terri Schiavo, I have a desire to see that others are not subjected to the same tortuous death that she was. You, on the other hand, do seem obsessed with justifying her inhumane treatment and murder.

I am really glad this is a separate thread. It exposes well enough the manipulation of words by the far left and their grunts in the death battles, and invites good discussion and turns on some lights.

Further to my obsession with things Terri Schiavo and with victims the death crews are lining up for the next killing, like Lauren Richardson, I just pondered how the candidates stack up these days. With Grouchy and Karl remaining of the Marx brothers and Harpy gone, who else might there be as an antidote?

The name, Bob Barr, comes up. Hmmm, how did that happen? I stumbled across an interesting interview. Problem is I would rather hear fingernails scratching on a blackboard than suffer through any interview by John Lofton, but found the tail end of this twenty two minute clip quite telling. It is why we must persevere with our "obsession".

Exclusive Interview: Libertarian Presidential Candidate Bob Barr On God, Government, His Atheist Mentor Ayn Rand, Abortion, Homosexuality, Terri Schiavo — Not His Favorite Subjects

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In other words, Bob Barr is just another example of how liberal the libertarians actually are. When you really chip away at what libertarians stand for, what you see at the core is anarchy.

I don't mean to be lowering the Barr, but standards are standards.

If anything Terri's Legacy has done, it has galvanized clearly and has erased equivocation. Either people swallow happily or unwittingly the propaganda of the media or they see through it. Nothing remains inbetween and even John Lofton showed that. Arggghhhh, I can't stand listening to Lofton!

I really didn’t expect you to understand the difference between right and wrong. My comments were for the benefit of those with brains and morals. Your vacuous posts just provided an avenue for me to get the truth out to those willing and able to see the truth. There aren’t many of you trolls left.

I can’t help but wonder about if the people who supported the way the Florida Supreme Court botched Terri’s case also supported them when they tried to throw the 2000 election to Algore.

You are wrong.

No. This is entirely an issue of the state. Private citizens do not have these powers. Personal wishes have nothing to do with it.

You have done irreparable damage to conservatism and the GOP with your dogmatic ignorance

Ignorance of the nature of the state has led Conservatives to lose control of Congress and Republicans to what appears to be a massive loss in this fall's coming election.

No. This is entirely an issue of the state. Private citizens do not have these powers. Personal wishes have nothing to do with it.

The Legislature recognizes that for some the administration of life-prolonging medical procedures may result in only a precarious and burdensome existence. In order to ensure that the rights and intentions of a person may be respected even after he or she is no longer able to participate actively in decisions concerning himself or herself, and to encourage communication among such patient, his or her family, and his or her physician, the Legislature declares that the laws of this state recognize the right of a competent adult to make an advance directive instructing his or her physician to provide, withhold, or withdraw life-prolonging procedures, or to designate another to make the treatment decision for him or her in the event that such person should become incapacitated and unable to personally direct his or her medical care. § 765.102(3), Florida Statutes.

Why did Terri’s husband get to make the decision about whether she should live or die?

Michael Schiavo did not make the decision to discontinue life-prolonging measures for Terri. As Terri's husband, Michael has been her guardian and her surrogate decision-maker. By 1998, though -- eight years after the trauma that produced Terri's situation -- Michael and Terri's parents disagreed over the proper course for her.

Rather than make the decision himself(which he could have done thereby negating all the idiocy that followed), Michael followed a procedure permitted(key word being "permitted",...not "required") by Florida courts by which a surrogate such as Michael can petition a court, asking the court to act as the ward's surrogate and determine what the ward would decide to do. Michael did this, and based on statements Terri made to him and others, he took the position that Terri would not wish to continue life-prolonging measures. The Schindlers took the position that Terri would continue life-prolonging measures.

Under this procedure, the trial court becomes the surrogate decision-maker, and that is what happened in this case. The trial court in this case held a trial on the dispute. Both sides were given opportunities to present their views and the evidence supporting those views. Afterwords, the trial court determined that, even applying the "clear and convincing evidence" standard -- the highest burden of proof used in civil cases -- the evidence showed that Terri would not wish to continue life-prolonging measures.

I notice that your pro-murder blog fails to address the trial de novo that was NEVER held. I guess that doesn’t agree with your liberaltarian pro-death mindset. Given 8mmMauser’s revealing post #28 I can certainly see why you would support a non-conservative for POTUS.

And if, as you claim, killing Terri was so popular than why didn’t Charlie Crist brag about his role in killing her when he ran for governor?

What a fantasy world you live in. None of that is anywhere close to the truth. Lies roll off your tongue so easily.

Terri did not have an advance directive.

Michael did not have the legal authority to kill Terri. He did not forfeit that nonexistent right and voluntarily petition the court to exercise his rights for him. The court did not have the legal authority to become Terri’s surrogate. That is expressly forbidden by law. The court did rule that Terri would want to be deprived of her rights and tortured to death, and that the clear and convincing requirement had been met. The evidence did not support such a ruling. All of the witnesses on Terri’s side provided clear and convincing evidence that she was a pro-life Catholic who opposed killing and being killed. Even Michael testified that she wanted to live for the next fifty years being taken care of by him. How does that translate into a desire to be tortured to death?

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I think it was Twain who said “it’s not what people don’t know that make them ignorant it’s what they know that ain’t so.”

So you lie to make others ignorant? I knew that, but I’m surprised to see you hinting at it; teetering on admitting it. You really don’t have to. Everyone already knows.

Any person on earth who propagandized and lied about Terri Schiavo is also accountable for her death. Since they are mostly atheists or secularists, they aren’t worried about any so called judgment day.

"I’m waiting for justice to catch up to her murderer..."

murderers.

Jeb Bush ordered the fraudulent autopsy and also ordered an investigation of Michael Schiavo. End result: 1. Terri was still dead/murdered 2. Michael Schiavo was cleared but of what who knows since SA Bernie McCabe handled the whole thing and he's in Judge Greer's posse.

Jeb Bush must be another hero of yours even though he's not a member of the bar. Jeb's not my hero.

The Pinellas GOP is mob-like. That's why Terri's dead. Funny they did everything Mikey wanted and he left the party anyway. It was for show, we understand that.

Speaking of ignorance of FLORIDA LAW, www.judgegeorgegreer.com Greer INVENTED it.