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Are Men Boring?
The Telegraph ^ | 11 June 2008 | Sabine Durrant

Posted on 06/11/2008 9:29:21 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

After a nightmare evening trapped between two egos, Sabine Durrant set out to discover when and why men started boring for Britain

Recently, at a friend's 40th birthday dinner, I sat between an advertising executive who expounded on his son's musical talent and academic promise, and a commercial lawyer who was keen to drum home the possessive in the phrase "my team".

'There seem to be genuinely primitive pairings between vivacious, chatty women and men who are the opposite' By pudding, I wanted to push back my chair and introduce them. "John, meet Josh. You've a lot in common. He's an insufferable bore as well."

In the car afterwards, I asked my partner - who, as usual, had been a mainly silent presence - how his evening had been. Did he answer? It was blood from a stone if he did.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: battleofthesexes; boringpeople; dontedit; dontexcerpt; dontsnip; men; needlesslyedited; needlesslyexcerpted; postitall; women
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Typical male strengths - focus, dedication, self-belief - might thrust men up the ladder at work and lead them to do most of the talking in certain contexts - in meetings, in Parliament, in the law courts, in tutorials, in panel discussions on television: contexts in which conversation has a purpose.

So basically, she is saying that men talk about things that matter, while women don't?

1 posted on 06/11/2008 9:29:21 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

I am very boring. Ask my wife.


2 posted on 06/11/2008 9:31:24 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running.)
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That’s funny, I was just about to ask that question of my cat.


3 posted on 06/11/2008 9:33:06 AM PDT by Jakarta ex-pat
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Yes


4 posted on 06/11/2008 9:33:41 AM PDT by fml (So?)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

Sometimes I wonder why mine keeps me ‘round.


5 posted on 06/11/2008 9:35:36 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Yes. Yes, we are.

Next question.


6 posted on 06/11/2008 9:35:40 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Friends with umbrellas are outstanding in the rain.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

My wife keeps me around to help her feel even more superior.


7 posted on 06/11/2008 9:37:21 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
to discover when and why men started boring for Britain

Not all men are boring for Britain, you know.

8 posted on 06/11/2008 9:40:16 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: fml

Mine used to probe for some kind of depth. I explained that I’m just not that deep. She didn’t buy it, we’re divorcing in August. Next time it’s with a pre-nup. Hey at least we can learn.


9 posted on 06/11/2008 9:40:41 AM PDT by east1234 (It's the borders stupid!)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

I tried to ask my Wife this very question, but she fell asleep before I could finish it.


10 posted on 06/11/2008 9:41:37 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Average White Conservative)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Recent research shows there are essential differences in the functioning of the male and female brain.

Stop the presses! News Flash!

11 posted on 06/11/2008 9:42:07 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

“Recent research shows there are essential differences in the functioning of the male and female brain.”

It took them how long to figure this out?

Men are not “boring” for the most part, they just don’t talk the way women do. Ladies, quit trying to turn your man into one of your girlfriends!

Generally speaking, and this is very general, women talk to connect, while men talk to convey. When a man and woman are talking to each other, they often might as well be speaking different languages. Keep that in mind, and quit judging your man by woman’s standards. He’s not a woman.


12 posted on 06/11/2008 9:46:32 AM PDT by Ellendra (If you do not like the values of the west -see the first amendment- you are free to leave.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

by the same token I’ve heard it said that women are only good for three things!...that being said whats the point here?


13 posted on 06/11/2008 9:46:40 AM PDT by jrd
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

“In the car afterwards, I asked my partner”

Why does it seem that everyone in Britain has a “partner”?


14 posted on 06/11/2008 9:49:23 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: Hegemony Cricket

men are not boring. This woman is defining “solutions” contrasted with “hourse of endless whining” as boring.

pissing and moaning rather than seeking solutions is pointless. It is appropriate a member of the dinosaur media is comming to this conclusion.

She forgets that business men have slowly abandoned their primitive form of information transmission to better means.
I bet the readership of the paper has shifted dramatically to majority women.

It is all about the operational definition. This woman is defining “interesting” as being a bull dyke feminist type.


15 posted on 06/11/2008 9:50:45 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Ellendra

Men don’t like to talk about work at home, why do women think we want to listen about their work at home.


16 posted on 06/11/2008 9:52:38 AM PDT by dfwgator ( This tag blank until football season.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
So basically, she is saying that men talk about things that matter, while women don't?

If she isn't, she should be because it's generally true. A lot of husbands are simply worn down by the incessant chatter and nagging and therefore become "boring".

A fitting corollary to this would be "men only listen to things that matter, while women won't shaddup about things that don't"

17 posted on 06/11/2008 9:52:48 AM PDT by AngryJawa ({IDPA, NRA} All Hail John Moses Browning)
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To: caver

for the same reason california HAS outlawed “mother” and “father”. They are trying to extinguish the fact homosexuality is ONLY ABOUT recreational sex.

If her “partner” is not a woman, he should be for being eunach enough to date this feminist schrew.


18 posted on 06/11/2008 9:55:09 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

Hehehe - I don’t really believe we are, either. Abrupt answers are just my knee-jerk reaction to stupid vacuous questions like that... :-)


19 posted on 06/11/2008 9:55:35 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Friends with umbrellas are outstanding in the rain.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
What is boring here is NOT gender. It is the method of communication. The women who are whining here are all about talk. They cannot be pleased. That want to have men listen to the narcissistic chatter about themselves or they expect men to talk about subjects which they are interested in. Desirable relationships between men and women have chemistry. And chemistry has a lot to do with non-verbal communication. On the internet, I am a very verbal fellow. But in person, the best communication is most often the non-verbal kind. And that does not always have to be between a man and a woman. As kid my parents did not have to say a lot to me, I could enter a room, soak up a couple of minutes and know all I needed to know and what was expected of me, all without the utterance of a single word.
20 posted on 06/11/2008 9:55:35 AM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

I’m a man and I’m anytihng but boring. Must be the UK men wwo are boring. ha ha


21 posted on 06/11/2008 9:56:58 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona....)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Related highly detailed medical chart:


22 posted on 06/11/2008 9:57:01 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Am I boring?

Well, when you think about it, there are three ways to answer that question. Now, the first thingn to know is that I grew up in New Jersey. Not in one of the big cities. Well, it was a midium-sized city. Or slightly bigger than medium-sized. Anyway, the important thing to remember is that I'm not boring. Now, in New Jersey there are things that we called turnpikes. You might call it a super highway, anyway ...

23 posted on 06/11/2008 9:58:05 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Et si omnes ego non)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

No. If men were boring would women ever FREEP?

The only ones that are boring are the feminized and metrosexual types. (Obama, are you listening?)


24 posted on 06/11/2008 9:58:05 AM PDT by 444Flyer (Marriage=One man+One woman! Vote to amend the California State Constitution this November.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Maybe Ms Durrant would be happier spending the evening with lesbians.


25 posted on 06/11/2008 10:02:01 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

She made her point in the first four sentences. Will this woman never shut up?


26 posted on 06/11/2008 10:02:40 AM PDT by TexanToTheCore (If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

27 posted on 06/11/2008 10:02:45 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Are you ready to pray for Teddy?)
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To: AngryJawa

I think you have really nailed it.

Since men 21-45 have abandoned network TV, I would be very curious about the demographic of the women who have also left the network TV.

The last line in this excerpt is telling (don’t want to give the hits to this paper by clicking further). Her “partner” (see eunach) was silent duing this process. She has the “partner” she wants. He does not take chances with a real “male” conflicting with her feminist worldview, she prefers the oprahfied metrosexual.


28 posted on 06/11/2008 10:06:53 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Izzy Dunne
Not all men are boring for Britain, you know.

That's true. Some men are boring for oil. Such as the Chinese off the coast of Key West.

(That's what you meant, right?)

29 posted on 06/11/2008 10:07:31 AM PDT by Flycatcher (Strong copy for a strong America)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Sabine, you bleed for three days, 12 times a year, for most of your lives—but you don’t die.
You frighten us . . .


30 posted on 06/11/2008 10:08:15 AM PDT by tumblindice ("Liberals . . . savagely cruel bigots who hate Americans and lie for sport." Ann C.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus


"My God, she's still talking."
31 posted on 06/11/2008 10:24:04 AM PDT by macamadamia
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To: 444Flyer

“Boring” depends on what you like to talk about, or hear about.

Personally I find women boring (I am a woman) because they spend too much time talking about dishes, diapers and divorce. I was once trapped at a “firm function” at a table with a woman who dominated the conversation with stories about her two-year-old son and the SUV she was about to buy — for at least two hours. Nobody else could get in a word.

On the other side of the aisle, in my younger days when I believed that one could put up with anything from a man who had enough money, I was trapped at a dinner with a man whose sole topics of conversation were (1) his ex-wife and kids and (2) his business. Trying to pry him away from those topics to discuss Ayn Rand’s “Atlas Shrugged” or motocross, or eschatology, or whether Jackie Stewart was ruining Formula One by bringing up all those “safety” concerns and trying to recruit sponsor money to pay for teams...not gonna happen.

So I think the difficulty is more in finding someone to talk to who wants to talk about the things you want to hear about, than in yelling FEMINAZI and METROSEXUAL and all that other procrustean piffle at one another.


32 posted on 06/11/2008 10:25:07 AM PDT by Appleby
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To: Larry Lucido; Cagey; MotleyGirl70; Rb ver. 2.0; Gamecock

Puddy: Feels like an Arby’ night.


33 posted on 06/11/2008 10:26:18 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
“Are men boring?”

Only to shallow narcissistic women.

..but shallow narcissistic women are boring to all men.

34 posted on 06/11/2008 10:27:02 AM PDT by woollyone (100 rounds per week totals 5000 rounds in a year. Just thought you'd want to know.)
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To: woollyone

I know I’ll pay for that comment as soon as the scolding Gaggle-Of-Five Hens show up here clucking bitterness in...

5...4...3...2...


35 posted on 06/11/2008 10:29:48 AM PDT by woollyone (100 rounds per week totals 5000 rounds in a year. Just thought you'd want to know.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
LOL.

Doesn't the author know that women have 10,000 words a day to use, while men only get 1,000?

Men have to be reserved in their word use, every day.

In fact, in marriage, the wife will gradually “take” some of the husband's words, because she runs out of her own long before the day is over.

Tis true! My wife and I have been married for 41 years, and she has gradually taken almost all of my words! I'm now down to only: “Yes, dear” and “No, dear” (it's surprising how easily those words satisfy her).

Ah, marriage. It dawned on me last year that if I had robbed a bank instead of getting married, I'd have been free in only 7-10 years! 8-)

36 posted on 06/11/2008 10:30:10 AM PDT by Col Freeper (FR is a smorgasbord of Conservative thoughts and ideas - dig in and enjoy it to its fullest!)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Yes, dear. We’re boring.


37 posted on 06/11/2008 10:31:21 AM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a Conservative. But I can vote for John McCain. If I have to. I guess.)
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To: longtermmemmory

Or else she’s defining ‘interesting’ as “Omigod, so, I like, bought this Prada bag yesterday, and, like, it can fit, like, my entire chihuahua in it! It’s, like, SO seriously cute!” (which is the way the majority of girls with any sort of money who I’ve met define ‘interesting’).


38 posted on 06/11/2008 10:32:37 AM PDT by Hyzenthlay (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: Appleby
...procrustean piffle...

I like your way with words. ;-)

39 posted on 06/11/2008 10:33:12 AM PDT by Flycatcher (Strong copy for a strong America)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Well, I’m certainly not boring. It’s like I was saying yesterday, I was getting my deck ready for a re-treat after some snow damage last winter and I saw these little spots where the old latex had gotten to low spots on the wood and the knots too. I had used a drum and a belt sander on them before but evidently I didn’t get everything off and when I put the oil-based stain down it turned out looking really good so I didn’t really try to get it out but now I have to put another coat of oil over it and I’m torn between re-sanding those areas and taking the nice contrast away or leaving the remnants of the latex stain so it looks like that really expensive wood where the knots are a dark color but the rest of the grain is nice and light - I think it’s cedar or something - is cedar too soft for a deck? I’ve seen interior floors use the stuff but not a deck, but anyway I’ve got some ceiling wood like that and it was really great to have that wood overhead when I looked out the window and the deck really close to the same shade under the exterior light. So now I’m torn. Anyway I’d have to use a hand belt sander and one of those little mouse type sanders to get at all the latex spots because either they’re on low spots on the wood or into some really hard places - that’d be the knots - and there are about a zillion of those so it looks like a really long job and if I start drinking beer at the beginning of it I end up sanding the cat before I’m finished and I don’t want to do that because the cat gets really pissed when I try to stain her afterwards even though the oil stain is probably better for her fur than the old latex stuff. She’d lick for hours on the old latex stuff and look at me like she’d chop me up with a butcher knife if only she had opposable thumbs which is a good thing for me that they don’t but if they did she could probably help me out with sanding the deck if I gave her catnip or something afterwards because beer isn’t good for them and now I’m afraid I’m gonna put my boots on one morning to find out she crapped in them instead of chopping me up with a butcher knife because you don’t need opposable thumbs to do that. Anyway I’m not too sure she wouldn’t want to try to eat the mouse sander. Do cats know what they’re called? And does it make a difference to them? What do you think?


40 posted on 06/11/2008 10:37:59 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

I have found that being boring is generally better for my health.


41 posted on 06/11/2008 10:40:33 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: Ellendra
If a woman tells a man about a problem, he start looking for solutions, not commiserating. Or, worse, he says they are not all that bad... “You're tough, you can handle it.”

This, of course, is encouragement between men, but a good way to spend the night on the couch if you tell it to your wife.

It usually requires a conscious decision on the part of a man to execute the “poor baby” protocols after a woman tells him about her trials (and sometimes we forget!). This is because, if one man did that to another man, he would think that the first man was insulting him, or, worse, that he was gay.

42 posted on 06/11/2008 10:41:06 AM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a Conservative. But I can vote for John McCain. If I have to. I guess.)
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To: Flycatcher

You can thank Spiro Agnew! :)


43 posted on 06/11/2008 10:43:06 AM PDT by Appleby
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

People who no interest in anything but themselves are boring.


44 posted on 06/11/2008 10:43:29 AM PDT by Spok (Liberty lives only in proportion to wholesome restraint.)
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To: swain_forkbeard
I have found that being boring is generally better for my health.

LOL...agree 100%! My wife used to get on me about not expressing myself to her. Every time I tell her what's on my mind, she gets pi$$ed off.

I know why the average husband dies seven years before his spouse: it's God's way of giving a guy a break before eternity really kicks in.

45 posted on 06/11/2008 10:45:40 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (John McCain is Lucy, McCainiacs are Charlie Brown, and the football is a secure border.)
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To: Hegemony Cricket
I try to ask my Husband only yes and no questions when I
really need an answer. He has to give reasons, background,
options, everything about his decision process. It's not so
much boring, as not helpful and usually pointless. I mostly
do not care which way he decides, only that I get direction.
46 posted on 06/11/2008 10:46:29 AM PDT by jusduat (I am a strange and recurring anomaly)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
The more macho a man is, the more boring he can be - that's why gay men are generally better company

I got to this point and said "enough".

Gay men may be better company....but if a girl wants to discuss something more relationship oriented than the latest plot to "Sex and the City" or which shoes go with what outfit...they're not much good for that.

Typical lib female rant: "If only all men were as fun as my gay friends...." Well, sweetie, that's why there's a difference.

47 posted on 06/11/2008 10:46:44 AM PDT by wbill
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To: TexanToTheCore
Will this woman never shut up?

Which is why the good Lord gave us guitar amps.

48 posted on 06/11/2008 10:48:17 AM PDT by doodad
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To: east1234
I explained that I’m just not that deep Occasionally, Mrs. WBill asks me what I'm thinking. The answer is usually "Nothing." It's not a lie...there's nothing going on right at that particular second.

Sometimes - if indeed it's what I'm considering at the moment - I describe to her the particulars of a major computer issue at work, or the fundamentals of a stock that I'm thinking about buying...and her eyes glaze over.

Now that we've been together for 10 years or so, she doesn't ask me that question as much as she used to.

49 posted on 06/11/2008 10:49:55 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Billthedrill

Best not to sand the cat. Shave, dry, then apply a light coat of shellac.


50 posted on 06/11/2008 10:51:30 AM PDT by Interesting Times (Swiftboating, you say? Check out ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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