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It's Over For Hillary? Don't Count On It
America Talks ^ | 6/8/08 | David Zublick

Posted on 06/08/2008 6:57:46 AM PDT by AmericaTalks

Hillary Rodham Clinton ended her historic bid for the White House on Saturday and enthusiastically endorsed Barack Obama.

Yeah, right.

She actually suspended her campaign, allowing her to hold on to her delegates and technically remain a candidate. She does so in the hope that something might happen which would change the minds of the superdelegates that have fallen over like dominoes for Obama.

And what, pray tell would make that happen? Another scandal, perhaps. One so devastating to the Obama camp that it would cripple his candidacy. There are rumors of a DVD which may soon surface, purportedly of Michelle Obama filmed between June 26th - July 1st 2004 in Chicago at the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition Conference at the Sheraton Hotel, specifically the women's panel, in which she launched into a rant about the evils of America. She blamed Bill Clinton for the deaths of millions of Africans and said America is responsible for the genocide of the Tutsis and other ethnic groups.

Then, she went on a rant against "whitey", talking about solutions to black on black crime in the realm of diverting those actions onto white America. Apparently the enthusiastic crowd ate it all up. She became more passionate and enraged as she went on, completely losing it at one point, saying things that make the mouths drop of everyone who has seen it.

There is no evidence yet that this DVD is anything other than an urban legend. There are those who say the DVD is in the hands of the GOP, which is waiting to use it as an October surprise. Others say journalists, perhaps even one of the major news networks has it, and is keeping it under wraps.

How would anyone have obtained a copy of this DVD? According to those who say it exists, the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago sold this DVD on its website, and possibly offered it free for download up until March 2008 when Trinity's site was scrubbed and the DVDs were no longer offered for sale.

In any case, Hillary has suspended her campaign and will pretend to be behind Obama all the way, perhaps hoping that the secret meeting they held the night before her suspension will result in her being put on the ticket as his vice-presidential running mate. Doubtful but possible.

All the while she is doing this, she will be biding her time, hoping against all hope that this recorded rant by Michelle Obama or some other scandal will break that will nuke Barack and return the Clinton machine to its former position of prominence.

We know the Clintons and what they are capable of doing. Don't count her out just yet.

Listen to America Talks Monday through Thursday at 6 pm eastern time at www.blogtalkradio.com/americatalks. Visit our website at www.americatalks.com.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; campaigns; clintom; elections; hillary; itsover; obama; operationchaos

1 posted on 06/08/2008 6:57:46 AM PDT by AmericaTalks
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To: AmericaTalks

Has anyone ask her if it was true...Obama’s wife that is...


2 posted on 06/08/2008 7:03:20 AM PDT by devane617
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To: AmericaTalks
Release it soon!

I've got to hear this one.

Michele is a vicious one.

3 posted on 06/08/2008 7:07:27 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: AmericaTalks

i’ve been saying that.

she still has her delegates.

and, she’ll be watching for a major obama goof.

bingo! she’s back.


4 posted on 06/08/2008 7:09:50 AM PDT by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: nmh

Obama don’t go near Fort Marcy Park.


5 posted on 06/08/2008 7:11:19 AM PDT by jocko12
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To: AmericaTalks
I know this may sound like such traitorist talk coming from someone who claims to be not only conservative, but Christian. Hillary would seem like a breath of fresh air compared to Obama if he gets elected as President.

Obama is not even the nominee yet and he is already showing signs of his innate arrogance, surely asking the mirror, "who's the fairest of them all..." Can you people imagine the Obama Marxism being reigned down upon this great country, and his backwardassed agenda approved with what is surely to be a veto proof dem controlled congress?

Hillary may be bad, but I garauntee everyone she is not a complete Obamanation! I will be praying "something" happens which will entitle her to the dem nomination because the last thing this country needs is a complete maxist agenda!

6 posted on 06/08/2008 7:12:54 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Yes, Chef!)
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To: AmericaTalks

The most pleasing thing about her loss is knowing the two of them will finally have to give up their delusional belief that the country yearns for a return to the Clinton years.

They both believed Americans had gotten over Bad Bill and, anyway, the media wouldn’t dredge it all up. They thought they would be coronated and, upon return to the WH, they would salvage Bill’s longed-for legacy.

They were wrong. They couldn’t even win among DEMS, let alone the general public. All their delusions will be laid bare. The pain will be unbearable....and delicious to ponder on my part.


7 posted on 06/08/2008 7:12:59 AM PDT by Timeout
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To: AmericaTalks

Hillary wants to be President with every cell in her body. I’m just wondering if she won’t subtly undermine Obama’s campaign. My reason for this is that if he is elected he would probably be re-elected in 2012 (unless he is as bad as Jimmy Carter) and voters might view her as being too old in 2016 to elect as President.


8 posted on 06/08/2008 7:24:37 AM PDT by appleton14
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To: jocko12
Obama don’t go near Fort Marcy Park.

The last guy didn't go there voluntarily, he was carried.

9 posted on 06/08/2008 7:24:46 AM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: AmericaTalks

The only Michelle video that will hurt Obama would go something like this:

“The world owes a debt of gratitude to the white men who, through their fortitude and grasp of history, forged a model of government that would serve as a font of human rights protection for all the world. It was through this miracle that men might govern themselves and tap into God’s endless bounty. Through her mistakes she has learned and matured, because America’s very essence is one of self correction and dignity.”


10 posted on 06/08/2008 7:28:05 AM PDT by littlehouse36 (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions. -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: AmericaTalks

Is Sean Hannity’s denial that he has “The Tape” a Clintonian denial? One could only hope so, for the sake of America. HRC is a Patriot compared to Obama. McCain IS a Right Wing Extremist next to Obama.


11 posted on 06/08/2008 7:30:59 AM PDT by LongTimeMILurker
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To: AmericaTalks
Whether this DVD exists is questionable. However, should Obama stumble badly before the convention or if this or some similar bombshell is unearthed, Hillary will descend on the convention deus ex machina to be their candidate.
12 posted on 06/08/2008 7:34:19 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: devane617

“Has anyone ask her if it was true...Obama’s wife that is...”

Well, they asked Obama himself about it, and he said “America is tired of disreactions, bla bla bla”. So the reporter had to ask “but is it true?” and Obama said, “I already answered that.”


13 posted on 06/08/2008 7:43:32 AM PDT by COgamer
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To: AmericaTalks

The tape would hurt him if it surfaced but I beleive Obama is a gaffing machine who will drag himself down. The drive-bys will work overtime to ignore these revealing boners, will downplay them, and spin them, but not all voters will, including a contingent of Democrats and independents who still love America.


14 posted on 06/08/2008 7:48:05 AM PDT by Combat_Liberalism
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To: Timeout
They couldn’t even win among DEMS, let alone the general public. All their delusions will be laid bare. The pain will be unbearable....and delicious to ponder on my part.

Amen, as much as Obama scares the H out of me, it is so delicious to see her and him go down to defeat, they were REJECTED, by the democrat party!!! Oh so sweet!! Now everyone knows they are LOSER's.

15 posted on 06/08/2008 7:54:09 AM PDT by thirst4truth
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To: thirst4truth

Osamanation.


16 posted on 06/08/2008 8:05:27 AM PDT by Republic Rocker
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To: sirchtruth
Obama is not even the nominee yet and he is already showing signs of his innate arrogance, surely asking the mirror, "who's the fairest of them all..."

His arrogance knows no bounds...



RUSH: In the Washington Post, in a story on Obama meets with Clinton, listen to this by Jonathan Weisman and Shailagh Murray: "Obama said he 'appreciated very much' the statement, and he instructed reporters to dismiss all speculation about possible running mates. He said he will neither discuss the selection process nor parade prospects in public," as McCain has. He instructed the media. Oh, fine. I love people that talk tough with the media, don't misunderstand. But who else but Obama could get away with instructing them? They write here, "they have been instructed." He knows they will follow his demand. Can you imagine McCain instructing the media to not cover certain things and them going along with it? Here's what Obama actually said to them that led to this report, Obama instructed reporters to dismiss all speculation.

OBAMA: The next time you hear from me about the vice presidential selection process will be when I have selected a vice president, and if you hear secondhand accounts, rumors, gossip about the selection process, you can take it from me that it is wrong, because we're not going to be talking about it in the press.

RUSH: We're not going to be talking about it. So he didn't use the word instruct, but from that little statement, Jonathan Weisman and Shailagh Murray said, "and then he instructed reporters to dismiss all speculation." So they wrote it up. He didn't even say it; they just took it that way. He admonished the media, and the media doesn't want to be embarrassed, the media does not want to disappoint the messiah, Obama. The other bite, this is just this afternoon in Chicago, 2016 US Olympic pep rally with athletes. This is what Obama said. I think he thinks he's elected already.

OBAMA: In 2016, I'll be wrapping up my second term as president. (cheers and applause)

RUSH: Did you hear any humor in that? Didn't sound like there was any humor in that. "In 2016 I'll be wrapping up my second term."
17 posted on 06/08/2008 8:16:24 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Miss Didi

In the year 2016, the USA will be on the ash heap of history. After two terms of a Muslim Prez, the country will degenerate into a Islamic type society. Those who fought against it would have been either deported or killed outright. Israel would have been wiped out by Islamic Nuke strikes. All science research will be stopped as we plunge into a new dark age. With no country willing to stand up to the Muslims, the world will cease to move forward.
GOD HELP THIS GREAT COUNTRY>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


18 posted on 06/08/2008 8:22:21 AM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Obama, I dont want to be cold and hungry. I am a AMERICAN.)
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To: Miss Didi
Did you hear any humor in that? Didn't sound like there was any humor in that.

As usual, Rush is on target. There was no humor, just euphoric arrogance -- in fact, this video contrasts the rant with the "Dean scream" -- but instead of looking demented as Dean often did, Obama looks, well, high.

19 posted on 06/08/2008 8:33:27 AM PDT by browardchad ("We are all mavericks now." -- Rush Limbaugh)
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To: AmericaTalks
"...completely losing it at one point, saying things that make the mouths drop of everyone who has seen it.

If this is true, why release it now while they have time to recover from it? Save it for a week from the election. It's too good, if true, to waste on a June release. Klintoon is doing the work of the GOP behind the scenes for us, and Barrie knows it.

The GOP should deliver a case of antacids to him at every one of his campaign stops from now till October and let him sweat it out...?

20 posted on 06/08/2008 8:34:32 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Senator McCain, what did GWB promise you back in 2000? And you believed him? BWAHAAAAA!)
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To: browardchad
Thanks for that vid...sending it out to everyone I know. I hope the RNC is paying attention. Heck, Mrs. Clinton should find a way to get this on the air asap.
21 posted on 06/08/2008 8:51:35 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: appleton14

Unless he is as bad as jimmy carter?My opinion is bambi will make carter look like Ronaldas Maxumus.


22 posted on 06/08/2008 8:52:13 AM PDT by imahawk (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: appleton14
(unless he is as bad as Jimmy Carter)

Unless? He'll make Peanut Man look like a mere incompetent. The Georgia governor did not have the Marxist ideology nor the shadowy connections to America's enemies that B. Hussein has. That all came later for Mr. C., BHO has them from the git-go.

23 posted on 06/08/2008 9:05:37 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: The Great RJ

Lots of things could happen to Obama.
He might make a Mis speak that would cause him problems, or an accident or maybe come down with brain cancer or something. Its a long shot. I think any new “Tape” is more rumor than fact and if it existed it will be burned by the MSM.
Still, November is a long way off.


24 posted on 06/08/2008 10:20:59 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: sirchtruth
Hillary would seem like a breath of fresh air compared to Obama if he gets elected as President.

Surely you jest. Hillary not only has proved herself to be evil and criminal but she's also had 8 years of practice as an understudy, plus she brings with her a partner who has had eight years to establish contacts and "good will" among the international movers and shakers outside public scrutiny and control.

Obama has only a loony preacher, a convicted real estate developer and a couple of marginalized anti-American characters with less power than Hell's Angels to his credit.

I'll take wanabee Obama, any day over the Clinton crime family!

25 posted on 06/08/2008 10:52:03 AM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: varon
I'll take wanabee Obama, any day over the Clinton crime family!

Clueless...You don't think there's a Chicago crime, possible terrorist enabling family??

26 posted on 06/08/2008 10:59:30 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Yes, Chef!)
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To: Miss Didi

I just read the funniest post on DU. Some woman was ranting about Rush saying that blacks got the vote first and now they will get a president before women will. She said “But you know its not always the case.. think back to the American Idol season 1.. Kelly and Justin... the woman won in that contest at the end... so, he’s full of [epletive deleted]. America picks the best and brightest and who they feel will represent the will of the people.. “

Citing American Idol to ease her offense over a woman getting voted off the democRat island.


27 posted on 06/08/2008 11:31:16 AM PDT by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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To: gitmo

That’s funny...hope you won’t think I’m silly but I have an American Idol analogy, too. Think Season 7 where the judges week after week pushed Little David on us as the best and the most brilliant. The kid could do no wrong. But in the end America voted in record numbers for the other David. Sorry, Barry...you lose!


28 posted on 06/08/2008 11:40:10 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: AmericaTalks

Jun 06 2008

Michelle Obama Tape Rumor Actually From Fiction Novel?

Published by AJStrata http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5516

This is way too weird (and convenient) to be coincidence:

A major plot line of the novel is the presidential campaign of Democrat Jesse Wood, aiming to be the country’s first African American president ­ “Wood was handsome, smart, charismatic, and being mentioned increasingly often in the press as someone who could unite a twenty-first century America growing more, not less, racially and economically divided.” (p.35)

He’s a U.S. Senator from New York and former senior partner at a prestigious law firm. His backers include “some of the old Black Panthers.” He wants to make Puerto Rico a state, and a recurring figure in his campaign is a controversial minister from Philadelphia called “Jefferson Roundtree.”

Yep, you guessed it, there is a video tape of the candidate talking about “Whitey” in the story line. The book is from 2006 - coincidentally when Obama was running for the Senate and was clearly heading to a White House run. How convenient is this?

Now look, if there was a story about blackmailing a candidate using a video tape of him making racist comments, that would be an interesting tie-in. If the candidate was black, that would be an interesting coincidence. But if the character precisely described Barrack Oama and his signature campaign theme? That is too convenient. And the character had a minister problem? How many coincidences can we get here?

And the tape was used by an opponent - and not found by the news media? And the racist comment was “whitey”? Then there is way too much more coincidence:

Later the tape is used for blackmail by an ally, and then the real badguy ­ a Texan who owns a giant oil company named Hewitt (sorry, Hugh) ­ gets his hands on the tape. The description of the appropriate timing of the release of the videotape on p. 237 will sound familiar to those tracking the rumors of the alleged Michelle Obama tape.

Hewitt thought for a second. “I’m going to let Jesse win the nomination and let the public get used to him as the Democratic candidate. Give the country some time to get to know Jesse Wood, to start to like him. And they will because he’s a very likeable guy. Then I’m going to drop the bomb, after everyone’s started to like him. That way the clip will have maximum effect and people will be as angry as they can be. Whites and blacks. Whites for the obvious reason, blacks because they’ll feel like he let ‘em down.”

OK, some of this could be driving Johnson’s smear campaign. But how is it the timing of the release is now following the script so well? Is this author prescient? Or was this book written and published for other reasons …. ? Wonder what political connections Frey has? (my tongue is in my cheek, in case you folks can’t figure it out).

Update: The book doesn’t sound like something I would read, but it does sound like the typical liberal’s biased view of businessmen (accept for investment firms - of course) and those evil conservatives. I’m going out on a limb here and say Frey is a classic NYC liberal. I especially have to laugh at the idea of pushing Mexico to become the 51st state of America. Where do people think these things up? If this was something pre-positioned I guess they never expected McCain to win!

The fight against ‘government’ corruption” is way too pat as well. And to add to all the ridiculous coincidences character Jesse Ford, the black candidate running for President, is a US Senator. The Book came out December 2006 (after the election). Was Obama the inspiration?

Update: I would like to know where Geraghty got his tip from in the original post, because he refers to “Jesse Wood” and not “Jesse Ford” (what I assume is the character’s actual name after being on a few sites now with book reviews of the story). Why does this sound like Geraghty caught a tip from someone ’special’ and just miscalled or miswrote the name? Update - Reader Snapple notes that Geraghty got the character’s name right, the sites selling the book were mistaken!

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# MerlinOS2on 06 Jun 2008 at 1:59 pm Maybe he is one of Scarry Larry and Val’s buddies from the company doing their election disruption tactics the spooks community has a reputation for.
Has anybody got a phone number for Armitage so we can check it out?
# MerlinOS2on 06 Jun 2008 at 2:13 pm For another viewpoint that the whole thing is bogus with a point by point reasons why have a look over here.
Lots of possibilities.
But if it does indeed exist the time for it to pop out to help the Hill Camp would be a couple days before the convention to help Hillary’s ’suspended’ campaign.
Guess the only reason Scarry Larry is in the lead is because Anthony Pelicano is a bit busy at the moment.

# AJStrataon 06 Jun 2008 at 2:18 pm Linked to that article in the previous post Merlin.
# Soothsayeron 06 Jun 2008 at 3:17 pm Posted earlier (of course) by Soothsayer at:

http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5508#comments
You guys need some help getting the egg off yer face???
# Is The “Tape” Rumor Based On A 2006 Novel? « Evynn’s Weblogon 06 Jun 2008 at 4:29 pm [...] clipped from strata-sphere.com [...]
# Books and Magazines Blog » Archive » Michelle Obama Tape Rumor Actually From Fiction Novel?on 06 Jun 2008 at 4:44 pm [...] Michelle Obama Tape Rumor Actually From Fiction Novel? This is way too weird (and convenient) to be coincidence: A major plot line of the novel is the presidential campaign of Democrat Jesse Wood, aiming to be the country’s first African American president — “Wood was handsome, smart, charismatic, and being mentioned increasingly often in the pres… [...]
# Snappleon 07 Jun 2008 at 5:23 am If you search the book, the character is named Jesse Wood.
The sites you searched must have it wrong.
# AJStrataon 07 Jun 2008 at 8:54 am Thanks Snapple, I did not have time to figure it out!
# Snappleon 07 Jun 2008 at 11:24 am I was extremely disappointed that Senator Obama never explained the origin of that despicable lie about America making AIDS to kill black people. He only said he didn’t believe it. I would expect a lot more from a black Senator who has worked in poor Chicago communities.
In 1992, the head of the Russian foreign intelligence service, Yevgeni Primakov, admitted that the KGB circulated that lie.

This was printed right in Izvestia in 1992 and in a 2005 State Department memo.
I have it linked here.

http://legendofpineridge.blogspot.com/2008/06/bill-cosby-actor-educator-social.html
The KGB told this lie to damage race relations and our reputation abroad, but it is really harmful to black kids.
80% of new AIDS cases are black kids, and a some of them actually do believe that the US government is out to get them. This conspiracy thinking makes them careless with their health, according to medical research.
I like the message Bill Cosby has for black people who are struggling. He says blaming white people for opressing them is making some black kids think they can’t succeed. It’s a kind of excuse. Bill Cosby has a Ph.D. in Education and he has a good site that helps people learn how to be successful, not how to be victims.
He wants black kids to clean up their language, read their schoolbooks, come to class, listen to and respect their teachers, do their homework, and not cop-out and blame “the man.”
All children can learn from “America’s Dad,” the great Dr. Bill Cosby.
Dr. Cosby doesn’t deny the history of racial discrimination, but he wants black kids to move on and not feel like they have to be victims. I don’t think it helps black kids to keep harping on how blacks were so denigrated in the past. Their ancestors were slaves, but European people were also slaves in the past.
I think radicals like Rev. Wright are more interested in keeping black people down so they can inculcate hate and divide our people than in helping black people liberate themselves from poverty, drugs, and violence.
Senator Obama could do a big service for black kids if he told them who spread this destructive lie–the stupid Soviet-era KGB.
Senator Obama says he wants us to have better health care, so why doesn’t he tell them about this KGB lie that is making some young blacks make bad decisions? The head of the Russian intelligence already owned up to this lie in 1992.
The ex-professor Ward Churchill told the same lie when he wrote that the US Army deliberately infected the Mandan Indians with smallpox. He fabricated his research and mischaracterized his sources to make that claim.
He also published anti-American lies in a KGB publication called The Covert Action Information Bulletin.
These anti-American canards about the American Army making diseases to kill people is like those medieval lies about Jews poisoning the wells of Christians with plague.
The NAZIS and the KGB used those ignorant, old lies to sow hatred between people.
When I see these lies taught in American churches and schools, it makes my skin crawl.
It would be such a great thing to have a black President who would really be a role model for black kids.
Is Senator Obama going to be like Rev. Wright or like Bill Cosby?
Senator Obama says he wants us to have better health and to get past the race issues. He could prove it to me if he told black boys and girls who told them this lie that is killing them­the KGB.
Sometimes the truth hurts, but the lies are killers.

Senator Obama says he will confront Iran, but he still doesn’t confront this huge anti-American canard which continues to spread the poison of hate and fear.
# Snappleon 07 Jun 2008 at 11:42 am Phill Wilson, executive director of the Black AIDS Institute in Los Angeles, wrote:
“[Conspiracy theories are] a huge barrier to HIV prevention in black communities…There’s an issue around conspiracy theory and urban myths. Thus we have an epidemic raging out of control, and African Americans are being disproportionately impacted in every single sense…[Black] adolescents ages 18 to 24 accounted for nearly 80 percent of new HIV cases. The whole notion of conspiracy theories and misinformation…removes personal responsibility…If there is this boogeyman, people say, ‘Why should I use condoms? Why should I use clean needles?’ And if I’m an organization, ‘Why should I bother with educating my folks?’ The [Tuskegee] syphilis study was real, but it happened 40 years ago, and holding on to it is killing us.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33695-2005Jan24.html
I know from personal experience about this stupid, vicious KGB lie. I had a childhood friend named Brent Anderson who became critically ill in China with AIDS in 1987.

Brent had studied Chinese in college, and I think he wanted to visit China before he became too sick. When he became ill in China, his father had to pay 40,000 dollars for the US Air Force to go to China and bring him home because no airline would take him.

Brent died shortly after he returned home. The Soviet media claimed that he had been sent to China as a biological weapon against the USSR! His “mission” was supposedly to infect billions of Chinese because China has a long border with the USSR. I read this article myself in the Soviet media more than 20 years ago.

Isn’t that a stupid contemptible lie? Does anyone really believe that the US government tried to spread AIDS to the USSR by sending a dying person to China?
This stupid KGB lie shows a lot of contempt for the Russian people.
A retired CIA man who was NOT Larry Johnson told me that the best propaganda is the truth because that can be defended. I guess Larry Johnson was at the back of the line with the KGB when they passed out that advice.
I think Senator Obama should tell people the truth about Rev. Wright’s lie. If Senator Obama can’t even stand up to his own minister in church, how will he stand up to foreign fanatics like al Qaeda, Iran, and Hezbollah?
And he could save a lot of young American lives. Isn’t that why he says he wants to end the war?

bttt


29 posted on 06/08/2008 11:53:08 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (Driving a Phase Two Operation Chaos Hybrid that burns both gas AND rubber.)
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To: sirchtruth
Clueless...

Your getting personal, tells me your argument lacks substance and is based on nothing more than speculation while mine was based on historically proved facts.

I'll extend the courtesy of not commenting on your analytical skills or lack thereof.

30 posted on 06/08/2008 12:19:53 PM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: varon
Ok, Clueless? (with a question mark)

Tell me, do you think Obama, with his ties to several "terrorist," is not as viably endangering as Hillbilly Inc? (Watch your analytics on this!)

All I'm saying is you're fooling yourself if you don't think Obama can ruin this country with as much sustainable detriment as Hillary.

31 posted on 06/08/2008 12:59:11 PM PDT by sirchtruth (Yes, Chef!)
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To: thirst4truth

Yeah. I was thinking about Norman Hsu today.

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BWAHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!


32 posted on 06/08/2008 6:56:00 PM PDT by Timeout
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To: Matchett-PI

Amen! thanks for the informative post!


33 posted on 06/09/2008 4:53:54 PM PDT by christian nurse (destroy obama before he destroys us-USA!)
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To: christian nurse

You’re welcome!

Welcome to FR, by the way!


34 posted on 06/09/2008 6:18:08 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (Driving a Phase Two Operation Chaos Hybrid that burns both gas AND rubber.)
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To: AmericaTalks
What's funniest of all is what I'd call Obamanoia, paranoia about Obama. He's a 'maxist'? Oh? As opposed to a 'minist'? Muslim? Sez who? Instead of fighting him on what he actually says that he is "progressive" and winning, we'll be fighting him on our own paranoid fantasies of marxism and islamism, and losing. Expose his "progressive" agenda as reactionary and regressive, no need to resort to far fetched associations of which there is no hard proof. Calling your enemies "Communist", yeah, that's the ticket!

In any event, if elected this clown will be quite ineffective, I suspect, unlike the Arkie grifter duo with their machine ready to rumble and do the damage.

35 posted on 06/09/2008 6:32:55 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Are you ready to pray for Teddy?)
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