Alaska’s Gull Island Oil Fields Could Power U.S. for 200 Yrs

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[Exton1]

Alaska’s Gull Island Oil Fields Could Power U.S. for 200 Yrs This is a video on how we are being lied to and manipulated. and that Oil is being used to control the people of the world.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147&hl=en

Rad This is a video on how we are being lied to and manipulated. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147&hl=en

[Exton1]

The oil that the US does have will NEVER be drilled because the so called terrorist organization called "Environmentalists" will NEVER allow it to occur. However, you will NEVER here the "Environmentalists" scream of uncontrolled illegal aliens invading this country on top of illegal aliens that put an ADDED burden on the environment! Every 30 days, our U.S. Congress imports 182,000 immigrants into the United States. About 100,000 arrive legally and from 82,000 to 100,000 arrive illegally each month. They flood our cities at a rate of 2.2 to 2.4 million annually. Several other sources show greater numbers from visa overstays, chain migration and anchor babies that never make the population charts.

One aspect of this massive human armada remains true: every alien that arrives displaces an American citizen from a job or costs an American taxpayer a lot of money. Every invader that arrives brings children that require ESL and special services like breakfasts, lunches and tutors. Millions arrive from incompatible cultures that create havoc in local communities as to religious rituals--practices such as female genital mutilation, animal sacrifices, rooster fighting, dog fighting and gang wars such as you saw in Chicago with nine killed and 36 shootings. And Congress swears "Diversity is our strength." More like we the people's signed death warrant!

What makes this invasion more ironic against the citizens of our own society?

The USA imports enormous numbers of immigrants annually in light of the fact that the USA suffers 14 million unemployed Americans. Over 1.5 million Americans walk our streets homeless and jobless. In excess of 13 million American children live below the poverty line. A gigantic 47 million Americans cannot afford health insurance.

While alien numbers pile up on our shores like a human avalanche, our national debt exceeds $9 trillion. Our consumer debt grows at $2 trillion while the average credit card debt runs at $9,240.00. Our taxes swirl the toilet drain at $3 billion a week in Iraq and Afghanistan. We pay $400 million daily on the national debt. Analysts tell us alien invaders send $80 billion back to their countries annually in cash transfers. All the while, illegal aliens do not pay $401 billion in IRS taxes annually as they work off the books.

All the while, illegal invaders avalanche into our hospitals with their medical needs, anchor babies and health care—paid by U.S. taxpayers! Because the escaped health screening at the border, they carry pernicious diseases from the third world like tuberculosis, leprosy, Chagas disease, hepatitis, tapeworms, head lice and dozens of other maladies that infect our citizens.

What reasons does Congress present to the American people for this “Human Katrina?” Where will we the people escape in our own country after another 20, 40, 50 or 100 million of them arrive in our nation? Why do our U.S. Senators stand by while watching this accelerating nightmare of 182,000 invaders added to our country ever 30 days?

Is there a single American that demands this massive population overload? Do you see anyone marching in America’s streets advocating we pile ourselves higher and deeper in human beings? Is there a strategic plan to handle the next added 100 million with our current water shortages, environmental problems, price of gas and horrific crowding in our cities and along our Interstates?

Regional and local civic groups are promoting economic development, which is the politically correct name for growth. Predictably, this will produce more homeless people, more employed people, more unemployed people, higher average salaries, more people living below the poverty line, more traffic congestion, higher parking fees, more school crowding, more crime, more unhappy neighborhoods, more expensive government, more tax revenue, higher taxes, more fiscal problems for state and local governments, more tax limitation measures, more air and water pollution, more water shortages, higher utility costs, less democracy, more crowded highways, more unmanageable costs maintaining public infrastructure, higher food costs and more destruction of the environment.

By the way, Obama, Hillary and McIsane voted last year to double legal immigration and give amnesty to all 20 to 30 million illegal aliens while they supported 400,000 annual anchor babies and unending chain migration.

[SandRat]

Question: Is there a single American that demands this massive population overload? Do you see anyone marching in America’s streets advocating we pile ourselves higher and deeper in human beings?

Answer: Why Yes I do. The DimoRATS and the Aminesta Crowd.

[Bommer]

This was published in 2006 and is dead on for today!

http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/gull_island_oil.html

Alaska’s Gull Island Oil Fields Could Power U.S. for 200 Years

By Mark Anderson

“Crude oil is the real ‘currency’ of the world,” said Lindsey Williams at a gathering of the Midwest Concerned Citizens group in Kansas City on July 22. But Americans will never hear about huge oil and gas reserves in the United States, which, if ever tapped, would bring today’s fuel prices at least as low as $1.50 per gallon and make America more energy independent.

As a Baptist missionary in the 1970s, Williams said he rubbed elbows with members of the world’s power elite—who boasted of detailed 30-year and 50-year plans to control the flow of oil and information.

A huge quantity of crude oil and natural gas exists under Gull Island, located in the waters of Prudhoe Bay in Alaska, says Williams. He cited key British Petroleum memoranda and related the statements of upper echelon oil officials who told him that Gull Island would be kept under wraps, limiting domestic supplies so Americans would someday see prices hit up to $10 a gallon at the pump.

“Every issue in the world today relates to crude oil,” said Williams. The U.S. occupation of Iraq and the saber rattling about attacking Iran fit into the crude oil matrix.

Iran is being targeted because it’s one of several countries that want to use their own currencies for oil sales, rather than using the U.S. dollar. Williams told AFP that any country that doesn’t want to “play ball” with the U.S. government and the financial and oil interests is, in essence, put on a hit list.

The United States, he said, learned that Iran intended to form its own bourse and not use the dollar for oil sales. Therefore, the notion that Iran is a menacing “almost-nuclear” country was trumped up, presented as fact via the corporate media and Iran is now in the crosshairs.

Other nations wanting more independence from U.S. meddling include Norway, Venezuela, Nigeria, Bolivia, Sweden and Russia.

The 30-year plan, which was first proposed three decades ago and is nearing fruition, included smug assurances from oil officials that the United States will triple its crude-oil usage and alternative fuels will not be allowed to gain enough ground to make a difference. They also noted that all foreign oil production will be scaled back to the United States and that Americans soon will pay $4 to $5 a gallon at the pump and could pay as much as $7 to $10 down the road.

In the early 1960s crude oil was selected as a tool of world control, Williams said, adding, “What we pay at the gas pump is a form of taxation.” The American consumer’s dependence on crude oil thus far has enabled people from foreign oil-producing nations to buy T-bills (U.S. treasury notes) in order to support the U.S. national debt and continued deficit spending. The need to support that debt puts the U.S. government in a bind, forcing Americans to remain dependent on foreign oil.

Williams, as a chaplain in 1970 when the trans-Alaskan oil pipeline was finished, ministered among the pipeline workers. However, as time passed he made a favorable impression with the top brass and was asked to improve worker-company relations. Next thing he knew, he said he was sitting at meetings of the World Bank, the International Monetary Fund and various meetings of oil executives over a three-year period.

He told AFP that the IMF-World Bank acts as a middleman between oil producing nations and refineries. In so doing, they set oil prices, he said.

The big event in that three-year period was in 1977 when an Atlantic Richfield oil executive told him, “We have just drilled into the largest pool of oil in North America—[and] in the world!”

That pool was Gull Island. It was said that there was enough natural gas to supply America for 200 years. But to this day, “not one drop” of that oil has been released to American refineries, Williams said.

Williams said the executive had warned him that the Gull Island find was highly classified. Do not repeat any of this, he was told. Obviously, that warning did not stop him.

(Issue #33, August 14, 2006)

[Bommer]

More

http://www.rense.com/general82/gull.htm

Gas Price Manipulation
And Gull Island Oil
By Joel Skousen
World Affairs Brief
5-18-8

 

It's well and good that Congress vote to stop filling the US Strategic Oil reserve because the US already has billions of barrels in the ground in Alaska--entire oil fields capped and drilled, but kept off the market. The filling of the Strategic Petroleum reserve is merely one more attempt to keep fuel in short supply.  I will be blunt. There is a conspiracy to raise fuel prices and it is pernicious. No one is targeting the collusion we see daily between the oil companies.

 

Fred Cederholm in a Baltimore Blog noted these careful observations during the latest and suspicious run up in gas prices--too rapid and too well coordinated to be a result of natural market demands. "It must have been some pricing strategy by all of the fuel retailers because the spike [of 13 cents a gallon] occurred everywhere, regardless of the company or the brand, at almost the same moment [within 2 hours]... I had already been on-line checking world-wide news and developments when a friend and neighbor stopped at the house to tell me I had better fill up immediately because a price jump was coming. I logged off and topped off my gas supplies for all of my fuel thirsty vehicles and gizmos. I then went back on-line to find out why the spike occurred. I found not one single development, catastrophe, or explanation. I found nothing to justify the jump!" Later, the media will always be fed some event used to justify the increase, just like their servile explanations that "the stock market rose today due to some company performing better than expected." Nonsense.

 

PUBLIC NEEDS TO DEMAND OPENING OF THE GULL ISLAND OIL FIELD

 

I have long maintained that the US government is purposely keeping US oil discoveries off the market in order to allow insider oil companies to drive up prices and save US supplies for the next war. Evidence continues to confirm that charge. A massive oil/natural gas field exists under Gull Island, located in the waters of Prudhoe Bay in Alaska, according to Lindsay Williams. Williams was an Alaska oil field Chaplain who was so successful at boosting moral during the building of the Alaskan pipeline that he was given special access to many high level meetings at the Atlantic Richfield company. At one of those meetings, he witnessed, first hand, discussions confirming a successful find of a massive new oil field near Prudoe Bay in Alaska--at Gull Island the day before the meeting.

 

A few days later, the chief operating officer of Atlantic Richfield for Alaska, Ken Fromm, who had invited Williams to the meeting, called him and told him he must never mention this new discovery--that the US government had classified it and was ordering it capped. It is still being held off the market and is not part of the environmental lock-down of oil in the Arctic National Wilderness. Williams was given a British Petroleum memoranda [probably by Fromm] which related the statements of upper echelon oil officials from Arco which said that Gull Island would be kept under wraps, limiting domestic supplies so Americans would someday see prices hit up to $10 a gallon at the pump.

 

Lindsey Williams decided to violate that informal ban and publish a book, The Energy Non-Crisis, about the scandal. Ken Fromm was finally fired by Atlantic Richfield for allowing Williams in on the meeting and for helping correct technical details in Williams' book. He told Williams that the Powers That Be were making sure his book would be suppressed and would not get any establishment media coverage.

 

Here's an excerpt from Chapter 17 The Energy Non-Crisis. The entire book is online and on U-tube videos: http://educate-yourself.org/cn/lindsywillaimsvideos22may07.shtml

 

"Gull Island just proved what the oil companies have believed for some time. It authenticated the seismographic findings. Seismographic testing has indicated that there is as much crude oil on the North Slope of Alaska as in Saudi Arabia. Since the Gull Island find proved to be seismographically correct, then the other testings are correct also. There are many hundreds of square miles of oil under the North Slope of Alaska.

 

"To clarify what I am about to say, let me first re-emphasize that the government permitted the oil companies to drill and prove many sites (subsequently making them cap the wells and keep the proof of the finds secret), but they do not allow them to produce from the wells. This is why I have referred (below) to a number of wells having been drilled (after I left the North Slope). The only production permitted is from the small area of the North Slope.

 

"Gull Island is located five miles off shore from Prudhoe Bay. It is in the Beaufort Sea. The chemical structure of the oil at Gull Island is different from that of the oil in the Prudhoe Bay field and the pressure of the field is different, proving that it is a totally different pool of oil from that at Prudhoe Bay... Three wells have been drilled, proven, and capped at Gull Island. The East Dock well also hit the Gull Island oil pool (you can tell by the chemical structure). For forty miles to the east of Gull Island, there has not been a single dry hole drilled, although many wells have been drilled. This shows the immensity of the size of the field.

 

"Only recently, just west of Gull Island, the Kuparuk oil field has been drilled. Again, this is a totally separate pool of oil from either the Prudhoe Bay field or the Gull Island field. The chemical make up of the field and the pressure of the field is different from the others, proving it to be a totally separate pool of oil. In an entirely different area of the North Slope than the 100-square-mile area of the Prudhoe Bay field, the Kuparuk field is approximately 60 miles long by 30 miles wide and contains approximately the same amount of oil as the Prudhoe Bay field.

 

"From 1973 through 1980 we were being told continually that America was in the midst of a major energy crisis, yet no oil production was allowed from the Kuparuk field. It wasn't until 1981 that permission was finally granted for production. Why the delay--if there really was a crisis? The reason Mr. X made the statement that there is as much crude oil on the North Slope of Alaska as in all of Saudi Arabia is because the oil companies have drilled all over the North Slope and have proven there is that much oil there, but still they are only allowed to produce from the small area."

 

"Americans will also be shocked to know that almost all Alaskan crude is shipped overseas (most to Japan) while America has to import most of its oil. "Possibly you have heard it stated that the Alaskan crude oil has such a high sulphur content that it cannot be refined by most oil refineries in the U.S. We are being told that this is the reason why the Alaskan oil is not helping to solve America's energy crisis. This is also the excuse that is being used for shipping Alaskan crude oil to other countries. It has also been reported that major power companies are even telling this to their customers, using it to justify their need for rate increases....[However] An August 11, 1980, analysis of the Prudhoe Bay crude oil, which is flowing in the Trans-Alaska Oil Pipeline, reads as follows: Sulphur content - 0.9% The sulphur content of the Prudhoe Bay Alaskan oil is low in comparison to oil from other sources in the U.S., as well as many foreign oils."

 

 

World Affairs Brief - Commentary and Insights on a Troubled World.

 

Copyright Joel Skousen. Partial quotations with attribution permitted. 

 

Cite source as Joel Skousen's World Affairs Brief http://www.worldaffairsbrief.com

[1COUNTER-MORTER-68]

BTTT.

[steve8714]

While your larger point is right, some of your details are not. 47 million people in the US do not have health insurance. 15 million are illegals and their anchor cchildren. 15 million more or less are young people who ignore health insurance because it costs $11.00/week or work off-books so they don’t have to take a pre-employment drug screen.Most of the rest qualify for existing programs.
5.4% of the workforce are unemployed; this includes many illegals also, because the numbers are adjusted for total workforce. Probably 11 million citizens are unemployed now, mostly communications and art history majors.

[GOPJ]

"Americans will also be shocked to know that almost all Alaskan crude is shipped overseas (most to Japan) while America has to import most of its oil. "Possibly you have heard it stated that the Alaskan crude oil has such a high sulphur content that it cannot be refined by most oil refineries in the U.S. We are being told that this is the reason why the Alaskan oil is not helping to solve America's energy crisis. This is also the excuse that is being used for shipping Alaskan crude oil to other countries. It has also been reported that major power companies are even telling this to their customers, using it to justify their need for rate increases....[However] An August 11, 1980, analysis of the Prudhoe Bay crude oil, which is flowing in the Trans-Alaska Oil Pipeline, reads as follows: Sulphur content - 0.9% The sulphur content of the Prudhoe Bay Alaskan oil is low in comparison to oil from other sources in the U.S., as well as many foreign oils."

Oil companies haven't be "nationalized" - they sell where they get the best price - and buy where it's cheapest. Also if has been reported that major power companies are even telling this to their customers, was true, the person writing this would have given particulars. What company and where and what was said. This smells of liberal.

[nmh]

Video!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147&hl=en

[NoobRep]

While I agree that the liberal whackos are keeping us from drilling for oil, I don’t believe some of this guy’s kooky ideas about Iran. We are targeting Iran because they’re a terrorist nation, led by an insane jihadist, that threatens the world’s security.

[Polybius]

Americans will also be shocked to know that almost all Alaskan crude is shipped overseas (most to Japan) while America has to import most of its oil. "Possibly you have heard it stated that the Alaskan crude oil has such a high sulphur content that it cannot be refined by most oil refineries in the U.S. We are being told that this is the reason why the Alaskan oil is not helping to solve America's energy crisis.

Oil goes to where it is easiest and cheapest to ship to and to refine.

The bulk of the U.S. refining capacities is NOT on the West Coast.

List of U.S. oil refineries

To get Alaska crude to Gulf Coast refineries would require a dangerous voyage "around the Horn" as oil tankers are 50 feet too wide to cross the Panama Canal.

In addition, Alaska does not meet anywhere near 100% of U.S. oil consumption and all the countries in the World are drinking from the same total amount of oil.

If you go through the extra expense and danger of shipping Alaska crude "around the Horn" to refineries in the Gulf Coast, you have accomplished nothing except that the Japanese are now buying all the oil that they did not get from Alaska from those oil producers that are located in areas with much easier shipping access to Gulf Coast refineries.

[doug from upland]

The United States, he said, learned that Iran intended to form its own bourse and not use the dollar for oil sales. Therefore, the notion that Iran is a menacing “almost-nuclear” country was trumped up, presented as fact via the corporate media and Iran is now in the crosshairs.

What crap. It is not trumped up. They want to go nuclear and they will present an unacceptable threat. Ahmadinnerjacket has told us what he wants to do. I believe him.

[Polybius]

While I agree that the liberal whackos are keeping us from drilling for oil, I don’t believe some of this guy’s kooky ideas about Iran. We are targeting Iran because they’re a terrorist nation, led by an insane jihadist, that threatens the world’s security.

Don't forget Iran's quest for nukes and the missiles to deliver them. Even the Russians are now realizing that Iran has to be dealt with.

Russian alarm over Iranian missile test .... Russia has raised rare public doubts about Iran's nuclear programme when Moscow questioned the test launch of a rocket earlier this week. The Russian deputy foreign minister, Alexander Losyukov, was quoted today by Russian news agencies saying the research rocket fired on Monday was as a cause for concern. ..... "It adds to general suspicions of Iran regarding its potential desire to build nuclear weapons," Losyukov said. ..... "Long-range missiles are one of the components of such weapons. That causes concern."

[Bommer]

Oil goes to where it is easiest and cheapest to ship to and to refine.

If that were true then why do we not get 100% of our oil from Canada? Your saying that the 40% we get from the Saudis from tankers sailing across the ocean is easier and cheaperthan getting it from Manatoba & Saskatchewan?

[Spok]

If high gasoline prices force us away from foreign dependence on oil, God bless the free market. Another benefit of high prices is that many reserves that were previously not economically feasible to develop will now go into production, increasing overall reserves. Milton Friedman explained all of this to us years ago. (God bless him, too.)

[pleikumud]

The solution to the energy problem is to get rid of the current Congressmorons, and elect people who have a few ounces of common sense.

[Polybius]

The United States, he said, learned that Iran intended to form its own bourse and not use the dollar for oil sales. Therefore, the notion that Iran is a menacing “almost-nuclear” country was trumped up, presented as fact via the corporate media and Iran is now in the crosshairs.

What crap. It is not trumped up. They want to go nuclear and they will present an unacceptable threat. Ahmadinnerjacket has told us what he wants to do. I believe him.

Don't you sometimes fantasize about having "It's a Wonderful Life" magic powers where you could take the kooks and the liberals to see the disasters that would occur if they were to have their way?

[stockpirate]

Not the envirowacko’s, it’s the socialists amoung us.

Read this and I think you will agree the oil industry has already been Nationalized in the US;

It was common in those days, as it is in ours, to identify the Communists as leftist and the Nazis as rightists, as if they stood on opposite ends of the ideological spectrum. But Mises knew differently. They both sported the same ideological pedigree of socialism. “The German and Russian systems of socialism have in common the fact that the government has full control of the means of production. It decides what shall be produced and how. It allots to each individual a share of consumer’s goods for his consumption.”

The difference between the systems, wrote Mises, is that the German pattern “maintains private ownership of the means of production and keeps the appearance of ordinary prices, wages, and markets.” But in fact the government directs production decisions, curbs entrepreneurship and the labor market, and determines wages and interest rates by central authority. “Market exchange,” says Mises, “is only a sham.”

Mises’s account is confirmed by a remarkable book that appeared in 1939, published by Vanguard Press in New York City (and unfortunately out of print today). It is The Vampire Economy: Doing Business Under Fascism by Guenter Reimann, then a 35-year old German writer. Through contacts with German business owners, Reimann documented how the “monster machine” of the Nazis crushed the autonomy of the private sector through onerous regulations, harsh inspections, and the threat of confiscatory fines for petty offenses.

“Industrialists were visited by state auditors who had strict orders to examine the balance sheets and all bookkeeping entries of the company or individual businessman for the preceding two, three or more years until some error or false entry was found,” explains Reimann. “The slightest formal mistake was punished with tremendous penalties. A fine of millions of marks was imposed for a single bookkeeping error.”

Reimann quotes from a businessman’s letter: “You have no idea how far state control goes and how much power the Nazi representatives have over our work. The worst of it is that they are so ignorant. These Nazi radicals think of nothing except ‘distributing the wealth.’ Some businessmen have even started studying Marxist theories, so that they will have a better understanding of the present economic system.

“While state representatives are busily engaged in investigating and interfering, our agents and salesmen are handicapped because they never know whether or not a sale at a higher price will mean denunciation as a ‘profiteer’ or ‘saboteur,’ followed by a prison sentence. You cannot imagine how taxation has increased. Yet everyone is afraid to complain. Everywhere there is a growing undercurrent of bitterness. Everyone has his doubts about the system, unless he is very young, very stupid, or is bound to it by the privileges he enjoys.

“There are terrible times coming. If only I had succeeded in smuggling out $10,000 or even $5,000, I would leave Germany with my family. Business friends of mine are convinced that it will be the turn of the ‘white Jews’ (which means us, Aryan businessmen) after the Jews have been expropriated. The difference between this and the Russian system is much less than you think, despite the fact that we are still independent businessmen.”

As Mises says, “independent” only in a decorous sense. Under fascism, explains this businessman, the capitalist “must be servile to the representatives of the state” and “must not insist on rights, and must not behave as if his private property rights were still sacred.” It’s the businessman, characteristically independent, who is “most likely to get into trouble with the Gestapo for having grumbled incautiously.”

“Of all businessmen, the small shopkeeper is the one most under control and most at the mercy of the party,” recounts Reimann. “The party man, whose good will he must have, does not live in faraway Berlin; he lives right next door or right around the corner. This local Hitler gets a report every day on what is discussed in Herr Schultz’s bakery and Herr Schmidt’s butcher shop. He would regard these men as ‘enemies of the state’ if they complained too much. That would mean, at the very least, the cutting of their quota of scarce and hence highly desirable goods, and it might mean the loss of their business licenses. Small shopkeepers and artisans are not to grumble.”

“Officials, trained only to obey orders, have neither the desire, the equipment, nor the vision to modify rules to suit individual situations,” Reimann explains. “The state bureaucrats, therefore, apply these laws rigidly and mechanically, without regard for the vital interests of essential parts of the national economy. Their only incentive to modify the letter of the law is in bribes from businessmen, who for their part use bribery as their only means of obtaining relief from a rigidity which they find crippling.”

Says another businessman: “Each business move has become very complicated and is full of legal traps which the average businessman cannot determine because there are so many new decrees. All of us in business are constantly in fear of being penalized for the violation of some decree or law.”

Business owners, explains another entrepreneur, cannot exist without a “collaborator,” i.e., a “lawyer” with good contacts in the Nazi bureaucracy, one who “knows exactly how far you can circumvent the law.” Nazi officials, explains Reimann, “obtain money for themselves by merely taking it from capitalists who have funds available with which to purchase influence and protection,” paying for their protection “as did the helpless peasants of feudal days.”

“It has gotten to the point where I cannot talk even in my own factory,” laments a factory owner. “Accidentally, one of the workers overheard me grumbling about some new bureaucratic regulation and he immediately denounced me to the party and the Labor Front office.”

Reports another factory owner: “The greater part of the week I don’t see my factory at all. All this time I spend in visiting dozens of government commissions and offices in order to get raw materials I need. Then there are various tax problems to settle and I must have continual conferences and negotiations with the Price Commission. It sometimes seems as if I do nothing but that, and everywhere I go there are more leaders, party secretaries, and commissars to see.”

In this totalitarian paradigm, a businessman, declares a Nazi decree, “practices his functions primarily as a representative of the State, only secondarily for his own sake.” Complain, warns a Nazi directive, and “we shall take away the freedom still left you.”

In 1933, six years before Reimann’s book, Victor Klemperer, a Jewish academic in Dresden, made the following entry in his diary on February 21: “It is a disgrace that gets worse with every day that passes. And there’s not a sound from anyone. Everyone’s keeping his head down.”

It is impossible to escape the parallels between Guenter Reimann’s account of doing business under the Nazis and the “compassionate,” “responsible,” and regulated “capitalism” of today’s U.S. economy today. At least the German government was frank enough to give the right name to its system of economic control.

Here is the link for this article:

http://mises.org/story/47

[toomanylaws]

Can anyone tell me if GWB could issue an executive order to ok drilling for oil and natural gas in some of the known reserve locations? I know he probably wouldn't but would it work if he did?

[elfman2]

“If that were true then why do we not get 100% of our oil from Canada? Your saying that the 40% we get from the Saudis”

What are you trying to suggest? How can we get 100% from one place and 40% from another? We don’t get 100% from anywhere. What are you asking anyway? That makes no sense.

[doug from upland]

I hadn’t thought about that, but I’m in. We can start by giving them a tour of Detroit to show what has already occured.

[SandRat]

Can’t drill here. Can’t build or improve refineries here, can’t build Nuke Power plants, can’t allow that here. The EnviroNUTZIEs and DimoRATs tell us so.

[RightWhale]

This is a pile.

[Bommer]

It makes perfect sense. Since in the past we depended almost 100% on our own oil You say diversify and get 60% of our oil from our enemies liks Venezuela and Saudi Arabia that can cut off the spicket at any time for any reason and are at the mercy of whatever war is going on in the region, verses Canada, our friend, across the border from us that has more oil than the Saudis and Venezuela combined! Not much likely to happen to Canada to promote a world crisis

[hosepipe]

Evidently the republican party has also been nationalized..

The republican primarys selected a stone socialist to run against the two other socialist/marxist.. And many republicans like chimps shake Bushes and make noise but do nothing..

The republican party IS A MYTH..

[elfman2]

“Oil goes to where it is easiest and cheapest to ship to and to refine.

The bulk of the U.S. refining capacities is NOT on the West Coast.
“

I’m sorry. This is an official kook thread and you’re inciting content with with talk of fungibility and making sense. Please leave immediately or you’ll be branded a sheeple kool-aid drinking oil company apologist.

[hosepipe]

[ Can anyone tell me if GWB could issue an executive order to ok drilling for oil and natural gas in some of the known reserve locations? I know he probably wouldn't but would it work if he did? ]

George Bush is a globalist.. meaning anti republican..

[AndyJackson]

I am going into the bridge business.

[elfman2]

“It makes perfect sense. Since in the past we depended almost 100% on our own oil You say diversify and get 60% of our oil from “

Are you drunk? (I suggest you say yes.)

[pgkdan]

Japan funded the construction of the Alaska pipeline and in return they are guaranteed the right to buy a portion of what flows through that pipeline.

[nmh]

BTTT!

[AmericaUnited]

It was said that there was enough natural gas to supply America for 200 years. But to this day, “not one drop” of that oil(?? Oil or Gas) has been released to American refineries, Williams said.

[penowa]

"Why do our U.S. Senators stand by while watching this accelerating nightmare of 182,000 invaders added to our country ever 30 days?"

Because the invasion is a big part of the plan to bring down the Republic.

[1COUNTER-MORTER-68]

TANKS a bunch,,,saved that one,,,

I have a family member that is now retired from

Texas Eastern Pipeline Corp. that says nearly the same

thing. “Peak Oil Is BS!”,,,

The former head of Arbusto Energy also knows this,,,Who?

George W. Bush! The POTUS!

[stockpirate]

I read a good quote yesterday, it went something like this: “Republicans have been telling Conservatives to vote for the lesser of two evils for years.....”

The problem is the Republican Party is full of RINO’s which is PC speak for Socialist.

We need to purge the party of RINO’s or start a Conservative party and ONLY allow Conservatives.

[RightWhale]

LOL

[LtKerst]

i HAVE ONE QUESTION Lindsey Williams says that gas would cost$1.50 a gallon if we pumped it from Alaska.

Says who? if they are gouging us now, why would they drop the price? why would they do that if they are in controll?

who would tell them to lower it?

You? Me? Lindsey is wrong about that part of his speach.

if they started pumping it today...it would never drop. their profits would just go up.

[winged1]

It is time for Homeland Security to investigate these enviro organizations and track their funds back to the Arabs. Only the Arabs and other oil suppliers profit from the United States not being able to drill for our own oil. Congress critters are only part of the problem. The bigger part of their problem are the lobbys that control them.

[SunkenCiv]

Market Drowns in Sea of Oil; Dow Dives 325
FoxBusiness | 6-6-08 | Matt Egan
Posted on 06/06/2008 12:09:55 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2027241/posts

Lord Lawson claims climate change hysteria heralds a ‘new age of unreason’
telegraph | April 6, 2008 | Christopher Booker
Posted on 06/02/2008 9:33:04 AM PDT by Tolik
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2024841/posts

[Polybius]

Oil goes to where it is easiest and cheapest to ship to and to refine.

If that were true then why do we not get 100% of our oil from Canada? Your saying that the 40% we get from the Saudis from tankers sailing across the ocean is easier and cheaperthan getting it from Manatoba & Saskatchewan?

You're a landlubber, aren't ya matey? :-)

That is EXACTLY what I am saying.

Why do you think the Eire Canal was built thorough perfectly good solid ground?

Because water makes the transportation of massive amounts of freight so easy that a pair of mules can effortlessly move tons of floating freight that they could not budge if it were on a wheeled vehicle.

The total U.S. oil consumption is 20.8 million bbl/day (2005 est.)

The entire Canadian crude oil pipeline capacity is 2.65 million barrels of crude oil per day

How are you going to transport the remaining 18 million barrels of crude oil per day from Manitoba & Saskatchewan to the Gulf Coast refineries?

Drive it down Interstate 25 in mile long convoys of 7,000 gallon tanker trucks?

This is an oil tanker.

Each one can carry two million barrels of oil. That equals 84 million gallons of oil. That represents the carrying capacity of 12,000 tanker trucks.

In other words, the entire Canadian pipeline system can only carry 66% of the volume of oil per day that only two of these tankers can hold.

That is how the U.S. must deliver the other 18 million barrels of oil it consumes to U.S. refineries.

Is it easier and safer to sail from Saudi Arabia to the Gulf Coast than to make the treacherous "around the Horn" voyage from Alaska to the Gulf Coast refineries?

Yes.

You want to physically move 20 million barrels of oil per day from Manitoba & Saskatchewan to the Gulf Coast refineries?

Well, as they say in Maine, "Sorry. You can't get there from here."

[Polybius]

I’m sorry. This is an official kook thread and you’re inciting content with with talk of fungibility and making sense. Please leave immediately or you’ll be branded a sheeple kool-aid drinking oil company apologist.

Ooops. I should have read this before writing Post 39.

Oh well, it was fun pointing out that it is easier to pull a ton of floating stuff than it is to drag a ton of stuff over dry land. :-)

[RightWhale]

When the Alaska Pipeline was in design they considered building a road for tank trucks rather than a pipeline. A seven-lane road with tank trucks bumper to bumper.

[mysterio]

Alaska’s Gull Island Oil Fields Could Power U.S. for 200 Yrs

I doubt the accuracy of that figure. There are 4 trillion recoverable barrels of oil there?

[mysterio]

Sorry, I did the math wrong. There are 1.46 X 10^12 barrels of oil in Alaska? Is that your claim?

[PugetSoundSoldier]

Your saying that the 40% we get from the Saudis from tankers sailing across the ocean is easier and cheaperthan getting it from Manatoba & Saskatchewan?

Two facts:

1. We don't get 40% of our oil from Saudi Arabia; in fact, we get 16% of our total crude imports from the entire Persian Gulf, including the 11% from Saudi Arabia.

2. The cost to pump a barrel of oil in the Persian Gulf is extremely low - like around $2 per barrel in Saudi Arabia, meaning they can sell that crude at $80+ per barrel and make a ton of cash (note that the price you see - that $130 per barrel - is for light, sweet crude delivered to Oklahoma).

3. The cost to pump a barrel of oil from the oil sands in Canada is around $35 per barrel, about 17 times as much as Saudi Arabia. So that barrel actually costs more to purchase and deliver than the SA product.

Yes, facts are inconvenient things sometimes...

[LaMudBug]

“That pool was Gull Island. It was said that there was enough natural gas to supply America for 200 years. But to this day, “not one drop” of that oil has been released to American refineries, Williams said.”

Some confusion in the above exists: GAS is not OIL; OIL is not GAS. GAS fields normally produce GAS; OIL fields normally produce OIL.

[Ditter]

Occasionally a well will produce oil AND gas.

[hosepipe]

[ The problem is the Republican Party is full of RINO’s which is PC speak for Socialist. We need to purge the party of RINO’s or start a Conservative party and ONLY allow Conservatives. ]

Unfortunately most americans have no idea of what a socialist is.. or even that communist's and nazi's are socialists.. let alone democrats..

The problem is most republicans are democrats.. meaning for a democracy.. which is Mob Rule.. Few republicans are for "A" and even "the" republic.. The/this republic was not designed to be a democracy on purpose..

Americans have been dumbed down to see the word democracy as a holy word.. with a religious ferver.. Thats WHY they are NOT embarassed to even be called a democrat.. shilling for democracy which is the cause of socialism..
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Democracy is the road to socialism. -Karl Marx

Democracy is indispensable to socialism. The goal of socialism is communism. -V.I. Lenin

The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism .-Karl Marx

[Quix]

YUP.

Globalism has achieved a lot of it’s goals that I first read in 1965.

[RoadTest]

” we are being lied to and manipulated”

I can’t get over that feeling. This whole oil price thing is being string-pulled from behind the scenes. When that sort of thing happens, it’s always the New World Order: big, central bankers, certain corporation heads, Bilderbergers - - the usual suspects.

[stevie_d_64]

Another bump...

It appears that however crazy some of this sounds, Americans are atarting to wake up and smell the fumes being pushed out on both sides of the aisle on this one...

peeee-UUUUUU...