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Is The Michelle Obama [Whitey] Tape A Matter Of Enunciation?
National Review Online ^ | 6/2/2008 | Staff

Posted on 06/03/2008 7:44:17 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

Apparently, if the tape ever comes to light, her words will sound something like:

Whitey cut folks off Medicaid? Whitey let New Orleans drown? Whitey do nothing nothing about Jena? Whitey put us in Iraq for no reason?

... when the intended message is,

Why'd he cut folks off Medicaid? Why'd he let New Orleans drown? Why'd he do nothing about Jena? Why'd he put us in Iraq for no reason?

Or so we will be told...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1moretime; 2008; barackobama; democrats; election; elections; farrakhan; jamesmeeks; meeks; michelleobama; obama; obamatruthfile; pfleger; whitey; wright
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Problem is, is that we have heard Rev. Wright say US of KKKa.

Rev. Pfleger - close friend of Obama and an Obama spiritual advisor since 2004 - brought up white supremacy from the pulpit in his rant against Hillary.

Louis Farrakhan was given a lifetime achievement award from TUCC, and he is a notorious racist.

Rev. James Meeks - close friend of Obama and an Obama spiritual advisor - in a YouTube video entitled "Another one of Obama's Friends - Chicago Reverend Meeks" insulted the white mayor and white governor, calling them slave owners.

Michelle Obama, if she did indeed say whitey... her words would go right along with what has been said at TUCC, who has been awarded by TUCC, and from Obama's friends and advisors.

1 posted on 06/03/2008 7:44:17 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: All

What say you?


2 posted on 06/03/2008 7:45:03 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist (Keep working! Welfare cases and their liberal enablers are counting on you!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Until an actual tape is released this is all hooey.


3 posted on 06/03/2008 7:47:28 AM PDT by contemplator (Capitalism gets no Rock Concerts)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Whether any such tape exists or not, the problem she’s got is that the story is believable.


4 posted on 06/03/2008 7:47:43 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

What is the pronoun antecedent? That’s what would answer if this makes sense to say that it’s about, say, George Bush or if it’s about all whites.


5 posted on 06/03/2008 7:47:46 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Obama in the WOT has only served to undermine our side and aid the morale of our enemies.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

>> What say you?

FWIW, I say:

a) I hope the tape exists... when it’s produced, the results will be brutal and effective. But...

b) until the tape is produced, it’s all speculation and manufactured news.


6 posted on 06/03/2008 7:47:53 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (I've left Cynical City... bound for Jaded.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Did you hear him? He said “Jew eat?”, not “did you eat”, but “Jew eat”.


7 posted on 06/03/2008 7:48:14 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (ANWR would look great in pumps.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
I'm saying the existance of the tape is believable, which makes the rumor damaging even if there is no tape. It demonstrates that it's not far-fetched at all.

As for its existance, I'll believe it when I see it. I think people who want the tape to be damaging to Obama should lay off the "whitey" aspect until such time it's proved. The content of her remarks will do plenty on their own, with or without racial slurs.

8 posted on 06/03/2008 7:49:02 AM PDT by Huck ("Real" conservatives support OBAMA in 08 (that's how you know Im not a real conservative))
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To: contemplator

No, until the tape is released it is neither hooey nor the opposite of that.

Speculation? Sure.

But we must be prepared for any possible spin from Obama and his cronies.


9 posted on 06/03/2008 7:49:18 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist (Keep working! Welfare cases and their liberal enablers are counting on you!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I think I’ll wait to actually hear words come from her mouth before commenting.


10 posted on 06/03/2008 7:49:38 AM PDT by dmz
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To: Brilliant
Whether any such tape exists or not, the problem she’s got is that the story is believable.

Exactamundo!

11 posted on 06/03/2008 7:49:50 AM PDT by Huck ("Real" conservatives support OBAMA in 08 (that's how you know Im not a real conservative))
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
"Until an actual tape is released this is all hooey."

What he said.

jw

12 posted on 06/03/2008 7:49:58 AM PDT by JWinNC (www.anailinhisplace.net)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
It doesn't matter. The GIST of her comments is that Bush "let children drown." Utterly offensive and ridiculous. It's not whether she used the term "whitey," which I doubt she did. It's WHO SHE'S ON STAGE WITH AGREEING WITH---Farrakhan.

Look, folks, this is real simple: if this wasn't damaging, the Obama campaign would have gotten this out weeks ago. There is something big in this, I'm betting.

13 posted on 06/03/2008 7:50:14 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: Nervous Tick

It is speculation, but we must be prepared for any spin from Obama and his cronies.


14 posted on 06/03/2008 7:50:36 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist (Keep working! Welfare cases and their liberal enablers are counting on you!)
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To: elhombrelibre

Exactly unless it is a very limited clip from say a cell phone, we will know exactly what she meant by context.


15 posted on 06/03/2008 7:50:36 AM PDT by JLS
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
It can happen to anyone, she misspook.

16 posted on 06/03/2008 7:50:39 AM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Of course in the same rumored tape, Michelle starts off with “the White Man has let us down.” Therefore, regardless of whether she’s saying “Whitey” or “why’d he” she’s making a racist statement.


17 posted on 06/03/2008 7:50:42 AM PDT by RockinRight (Supreme Court Justice Fred Thompson. The next best place for Fred.)
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To: Brilliant
Whether any such tape exists or not, the problem she’s got is that the story is believable.

Spot on! And either version.
18 posted on 06/03/2008 7:50:43 AM PDT by ZX12R
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Not American here, but are they saying a wealthy, Princeton-educated person, has a gutteral “black accent” merely because she is black?

Sorry, don’t believe it, and the implication seem rascist.

Mrs. Obama wasn’t raised in the ghetto, and unless she has adopted the affectation of a ghetto accent, this is not believeable.


19 posted on 06/03/2008 7:51:04 AM PDT by Yitzchak (The arabs do not respect power; they worship it.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
This is a Hahvahhhd educated lawyer, who knows that words mean things. She may fall back in ghetto-gutter slang when hangin' out wit her peeps, and perhaps this is what happened. Perhaps.

But I don't think Aunt Esther would approve.

In God We Trust.....Semper Fi

20 posted on 06/03/2008 7:51:12 AM PDT by North Coast Conservative ( Operation Street Corner 2008. Veterans Against Obama.)
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To: Nervous Tick

Perhaps. But the fact that Dems like Beckel now are saying they’ve heard about this tape from a “lot of sources” suggests something is out there, and it’s damaging, or else Obama’s own peeps would have put this out and been done with it.


21 posted on 06/03/2008 7:51:33 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: SlowBoat407

Jew-lie! Did you hear that? You asked him when the meeting was, and he said Jew-lie! /humor


22 posted on 06/03/2008 7:51:49 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Why keep harping on this when important news is being suppressed? Suzi Quattro is 58.


23 posted on 06/03/2008 7:51:57 AM PDT by RightWhale (We see the polygons)
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To: Nervous Tick
"Whitey" or "why'd he"; look at the man on the stage behind the bow tie.


24 posted on 06/03/2008 7:52:00 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: SlowBoat407

“Wha Jew talkin’ ‘bout?”


25 posted on 06/03/2008 7:52:04 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

This spin is getting more and more ludicrous: “There is no tape! Michelle never said anything like that! Such a tape doesn’t exist! But if it does exist, what she really said was...”


26 posted on 06/03/2008 7:52:07 AM PDT by B Knotts (Calvin Coolidge Republican)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
"What say you? "

What an ugly woman ... from the inside to the outside.

Can you imagine the Hell Barack Hussein Obama will get when he is beaten in a landslide, and against McCain no less?

27 posted on 06/03/2008 7:52:37 AM PDT by G.Mason (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: JWinNC

It is neither hooey nor trhe opposite of that.

It is speculation. But we must be prepared fro any spin from Obamaa and his cronies.

Gievn what has went on there at TUCC, whom Obama has been hanging around, and what they have said, it shouldn’t surprise anyone if she said “whitey.”


28 posted on 06/03/2008 7:52:40 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist (Keep working! Welfare cases and their liberal enablers are counting on you!)
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To: SlowBoat407

LOL...classic.


29 posted on 06/03/2008 7:52:45 AM PDT by B Knotts (Calvin Coolidge Republican)
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To: Nervous Tick
a) I hope the tape exists... when it’s produced, the results will be brutal and effective. But... b) until the tape is produced, it’s all speculation and manufactured news.

Also, doesn't this "leak" smell of Clinton?

30 posted on 06/03/2008 7:52:53 AM PDT by GOPJ
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To: I see my hands

Sure she misspoke.

Everything that Obama’s buddies have said wasn’t racist at all...they all misspoke.

/s


31 posted on 06/03/2008 7:54:24 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist (Keep working! Welfare cases and their liberal enablers are counting on you!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I say they exist, and the “why’d” mistaken for “whitey”
is pre-damage control put out by the Obama camp


32 posted on 06/03/2008 7:55:16 AM PDT by patriot08
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To: RockinRight
Of course in the same rumored tape, Michelle starts off with “the White Man has let us down.” Therefore, regardless of whether she’s saying “Whitey” or “why’d he” she’s making a racist statement.

Yep. Assuming the speculation is close, the Obama cult will try to spin it as though she is talking about Bush, but the context would contradict that. Of course saying anything evil about Bush is acceptable hate speech.

33 posted on 06/03/2008 7:55:31 AM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Let this whole “Whitey/Michelle” matter drop. There is nothing to it.


34 posted on 06/03/2008 7:55:37 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Until a tape appears and it is rock solid.....I really wish that FReepers would cease and desist posting threads about it.

We’re really starting to look silly....


35 posted on 06/03/2008 7:55:45 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Fight Crime. Shoot Back.)
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To: SlowBoat407
So, no racist rants have been said by Obama’s buddies at TUCC or elsewhere?

If they have said racist rants - and they have - it makes the whitey tape believable.

It makes Michelle saying whitey believable.

36 posted on 06/03/2008 7:56:29 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist (Keep working! Welfare cases and their liberal enablers are counting on you!)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

We have to be prepared for the spin from Obama and his cronies...


37 posted on 06/03/2008 7:57:33 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist (Keep working! Welfare cases and their liberal enablers are counting on you!)
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To: Yitzchak

“Mrs. Obama wasn’t raised in the ghetto, and unless she has adopted the affectation of a ghetto accent, this is not believeable.”
I guess you haven’t heard Mrs. Clinton’s ever-shifting accents and dialects???


38 posted on 06/03/2008 7:57:38 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Like I said, we have to be prepared for the spin from Obama and his cronies...


39 posted on 06/03/2008 7:58:10 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist (Keep working! Welfare cases and their liberal enablers are counting on you!)
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To: GOPJ

>> Also, doesn’t this “leak” smell of Clinton?

It’s certainly in character for Clinton.

But — following that logical thread — if she has the tape (or direct knowledge of where it is and who does have it), why merely leak innuendo about it? Why not produce it? She’s hanging by a thread as it is; whitey you waiting for oops I mean whaddaya waiting for Hillary?


40 posted on 06/03/2008 7:58:44 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (I've left Cynical City... bound for Jaded.)
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To: Yitzchak
"don’t believe it"

Believe it.


41 posted on 06/03/2008 7:58:53 AM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Is that some sort of implication?


42 posted on 06/03/2008 7:59:11 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Fight Crime. Shoot Back.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
BINGO!!! IF there is a tape, she said "WHY'D HE"...not "WHITEY"! HUGE diff!!

The Clinton camp is dangling this rumor to REPUBLICANS so we can look like STUPID RACISTS!!!

I am being skewered on all the other threads for warning fellow freepers not to over the cliff on this.

43 posted on 06/03/2008 8:01:16 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

If the offending word does indeed appear in the questions as written in the article, why would an educated woman suddenly slip into street talk? I would have to hear it in context to make my own judgement on it. The question would be, what makes more sense in the context of the discussion?


44 posted on 06/03/2008 8:01:27 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (ANWR would look great in pumps.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
... when the intended message REALLY is ...

Why'd he cut folks off Medicaid?nowamsayin? Why'd he let New Orleans drown?nowamsayin? Why'd he do nothing about Jena?nowamsayin? Why'd he put us in Iraq for no reason?nowamsayin?.......Yo?
45 posted on 06/03/2008 8:01:30 AM PDT by rickomatic
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I doubt there is a tape. Drop it.It's a distraction. Michelle has said enough awful stuff during this campaign: she was not “proud” of America until it looked like hubby might be president, America is a “mean” country. There will be more: clearly she is an angry hater, like the vulgar racist mob she sat with for 20 years at her phony "church." Never fear. She won't be able to keep her bile in check for 5 months
46 posted on 06/03/2008 8:01:34 AM PDT by Godwin1
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To: SlowBoat407
Did you hear him? He said “Jew eat?”, not “did you eat”, but “Jew eat”.

LOL!!!!!!!! SAME DAMN THING!!!!!

47 posted on 06/03/2008 8:02:21 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

It looks like you are defending Michelle Obama.

I am saying that given what I posted after the url content - my first post - it shouldn’t surprise anyone if she said what she said.

And we must be prepared for any spin from Obama and his cronies.


48 posted on 06/03/2008 8:03:06 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist (Keep working! Welfare cases and their liberal enablers are counting on you!)
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To: RockinRight
Of course in the same rumored tape, Michelle starts off with “the White Man has let us down.” Therefore, regardless of whether she’s saying “Whitey” or “why’d he” she’s making a racist statement

I agree.....but we need to be truthful and not say she said "WHITEY".

49 posted on 06/03/2008 8:03:32 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: RockinRight

The tape has her and Father Flim-Falm is a stirring rendition of “Mammy.”


50 posted on 06/03/2008 8:03:57 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus (( commander of the simian host))
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